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Tuesday, April 02, 2013

Buzzfeed: The Killer Feature of MLB.tv.

Turns out you can watch video with the radio announcer overlaid. I just tried it. Seems to work.

Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 02, 2013 at 09:18 PM | 49 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Urkel's Boner Posted: April 02, 2013 at 11:13 PM (#4402786)
I tried this out last night and the audio feed kept spontaneously reverting back to the TV broadcast. Probably just a bug in the PS3 version since every other video streaming app I have used on the PS3 seems to be buggy to point of near unusability.
   2. Dale Sams Posted: April 02, 2013 at 11:17 PM (#4402789)
Last year the radio and tv wouldn't match up, but right now with the SF game it seems to be working perfectly.
   3. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 02, 2013 at 11:17 PM (#4402790)
Neat!
   4. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 02, 2013 at 11:19 PM (#4402792)
No more chip carey?!!
   5. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: April 02, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4402795)
Huzzah! It works! Unfortunately I got the Cotroneo inning but I can wait for Korach to get back.
   6. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 02, 2013 at 11:33 PM (#4402805)
I tried this out last night and the audio feed kept spontaneously reverting back to the TV broadcast. Probably just a bug in the PS3 version since every other video streaming app I have used on the PS3 seems to be buggy to point of near unusability.


That happened to me tonight. I was trying to watch the Rangers game with live audio only, and every now and then it'd start buffering, then return with the TV broadcast's audio. I missed an out because of that. I'd never had that problem with the PS3 version of MLB.tv before.

The navigation's also a lot worse than last year's version. Last year I could say 'start at the bottom of the fifth inning' and it'd do so, this year there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that. I thought that it might just be a spring training bug, but it was still like that today.
   7. Jim Wisinski Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:04 AM (#4402823)
I would love the ability to listen to the TV feed over the radio
   8. Textbook Editor Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:19 AM (#4402829)
I'm not seeing this as an option for me, and I even have Premium so for the life of me not sure what I'm doing wrong... [sigh]
   9. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:32 AM (#4402838)
Are local games still blacked out on MLB.tv?
   10. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:39 AM (#4402842)
Now if we can only somehow get the option of getting only the ambient noise from the ballpark, that would be heaven for me. To some extent I wouldn't even need to watch the game, that sound would just be pleasant.

And that's not even criticism of any announcers. I just prefer the ambient noise to even the best announcers.
   11. PeteF3 Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:59 AM (#4402848)
Unless they got rid of it this year, ambient noise has been an mlb.tv option for the past 3 or 4 seasons.
   12. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:14 AM (#4402853)
Ambient noise is still an option. You have to watch the home feed, but it's been possible in the past and is still possible now.
   13. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:48 AM (#4402866)
How do you do it?

Looks like you need to install a plugin. It also looks like you can only do it on the computer and not on the XBOX or the phone.
   14. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:53 AM (#4402868)
How do you do it?
Watch the home feed, select alternate audio. One of the options will be the park feed.
   15. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 03, 2013 at 02:07 AM (#4402869)
Roku question: In order to watch MLB.tv via Roku, I need a premium subscription, right?
   16. Lassus Posted: April 03, 2013 at 08:17 AM (#4402900)
Looks like you need to install a plugin.

Something called "nextdef" which from what I understand is pretty non-invasive. You should seen it when they introduced it. What a mess.
   17. boteman digs the circuit clout Posted: April 03, 2013 at 10:08 AM (#4402980)
Are local games still blacked out on MLB.tv?

Worse. Your local TEAM is blacked out. I cooked my hot dogs, poured my beer, sat down to watch the Marlins at the Nationals on Opening Day on my new Roku with MLB.tv only to be greeted with the message, "Due to contractual restrictions this game is not available in your current area". Rats!

I'm in southeast Florida, but apparently MLB or Fox Sports expects me to hop in my car and drive 1100 miles to D.C. to buy scalped tickets to get into the sold-out Opening Day game. Since the Marlins and Nats are in the same division I expect I'll get blacked out quite a bit this season.

On the bright side, at least they don't have a fixed number of channels like DirecTV on which to show games, so they won't have to make that nail-biting decision whether to stick with the game that's in extra innings or switch to the west coast game that just started with two fireballing pitchers facing off.
   18. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: April 03, 2013 at 10:40 AM (#4403011)
I'm in southeast Florida, but apparently MLB or Fox Sports expects me to hop in my car and drive 1100 miles to D.C. to buy scalped tickets to get into the sold-out Opening Day game. Since the Marlins and Nats are in the same division I expect I'll get blacked out quite a bit this season.
The local broadcast partners have language in their contracts that blacks out games in a certain region to protect their advertising revenue.

I'm sure MLB would love to change that situation (and in places like NY, Cablevision subscribers can watch Yankees game on MLB.tv), but it's not as simple as the NFL changing blackout rules, since they have over 30 network contracts to work with.

Also, unlike the NHL online service, which makes you wait a very long time to watch the game after it's over, MLB.tv allows you to watch the game fairly quickly after it's over.
   19. AROM Posted: April 03, 2013 at 10:51 AM (#4403023)
I'm in southeast Florida, but apparently MLB or Fox Sports expects me to hop in my car and drive 1100 miles to D.C. to buy scalped tickets to get into the sold-out Opening Day game. Since the Marlins and Nats are in the same division I expect I'll get blacked out quite a bit this season.


It's been a long time since the purpose of blackouts was to motivate you to go buy tickets at the ballpark. What they want you to do is watch the game on whatever southeast Florida network carries the Marlins game, assuming there is one.

I watch most of my baseball through MLBTV, but I do like to watch the Orioles and Nats too. While I'm strongly considering dropping cable and not being a sucker, giving up MASN is one sacrifice that's holding me back.

Question for those who have cut cable, do you still use Comcast (or whatever your local cable is) for high speed internet? Get it through the phone company? Anyone trying other sources?
   20. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 03, 2013 at 10:55 AM (#4403027)
It's been a long time since the purpose of blackouts was to motivate you to go buy tickets at the ballpark. What they want you to do is watch the game on whatever southeast Florida network carries the Marlins game, assuming there is one.
That blows so much ass. I recently cancelled my cable subscription because the only thing I watched was sports. Going just the on-line route saves me a ton of money, but MLB.tv is totally worthless to me if I can't watch the Angels while they're playing.

Oh well. It's back to radio-only for now, just like in the good ol' days.
   21. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 03, 2013 at 10:58 AM (#4403031)
I still use Comcast for my cable. Matter of convenience more than anything.

I understand MLB.tv blackouts in theory, but they're so draconian and ridiculous sometimes that I can't help but think they're shooting themselves in the foot. When I was living in rural Oregon, I couldn't watch the Mariners . . . or the A's, or the Giants, who were literally only on my TV when they were playing the Mariners. Made no goddamned sense at all.
   22. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 03, 2013 at 10:59 AM (#4403034)
Further! I don't understand why MLB.tv doesn't just give you the home feed, commercials and all, when you're in the cable coverage area. Shouldn't that solve the problem?
   23. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:09 AM (#4403042)
Unless they got rid of it this year, ambient noise has been an mlb.tv option for the past 3 or 4 seasons.
Ambient noise is still an option. You have to watch the home feed, but it's been possible in the past and is still possible now.
Watch the home feed, select alternate audio. One of the options will be the park feed.


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Truly, sirs, you are History's Greatest Heroes!
   24. spycake Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:11 AM (#4403045)
Are the blackouts based on IP address, so they could be circumvented through a proxy? Does one's billing address have any effect at all?
   25. Nasty Nate Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:19 AM (#4403056)
Further! I don't understand why MLB.tv doesn't just give you the home feed, commercials and all, when you're in the cable coverage area. Shouldn't that solve the problem?


The cable/dish companies get cut out of the loop this way - they don't like that.
   26. AROM Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:22 AM (#4403062)
I still use Comcast for my cable. Matter of convenience more than anything.


Yeah, the logistics of switching are daunting. I don't know if I can count all the accounts I have that are linked to a comcast email. I've had it for over 10 years now. Before that you didn't have every company you deal with going through an email contact point. Switching from AOL to earthlink or whatever just meant you sent a message to the few people who you corresponded with by email.

I've switched a number of things over to a more permanent email, that I would keep no matter who my internet provider is, but I'd be afraid of forgetting, and then a few months later some new comcast customer selects my old email name and starts getting my email from places that don't know I switched, or are too incompetant to process the switch.

That blows so much ass. I recently cancelled my cable subscription because the only thing I watched was sports. Going just the on-line route saves me a ton of money, but MLB.tv is totally worthless to me if I can't watch the Angels while they're playing.


Only solution is to move to the other coast. One benefit (or penalty) would be you can join me and Matt Welch when the Angels visit Camden Yards.
   27. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:23 AM (#4403064)
Further! I don't understand why MLB.tv doesn't just give you the home feed, commercials and all, when you're in the cable coverage area. Shouldn't that solve the problem?

Yeah, I do find it odd MLB.tv doesn't provide commercials of the broadcast...we just get a blue screen in-between innings. Maybe there's something prohibiting local commercials outside the region? As in, advertisers have paid for their content to be aired only in X location...
   28. Dan Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:26 AM (#4403069)
Are the blackouts based on IP address, so they could be circumvented through a proxy? Does one's billing address have any effect at all?


Yes, yes, no.

Unfortunately this year they made the iPad app require Location Services to be enabled. Last year I was able to use a proxy on it as well to watch blacked out games. Looks like this year ill need to use my computer to watch games that are blacked out.
   29. Dan Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:30 AM (#4403077)
Yeah, I do find it odd MLB.tv doesn't provide commercials of the broadcast...we just get a blue screen in-between innings. Maybe there's something prohibiting local commercials outside the region? As in, advertisers have paid for their content to be aired only in X location...


In the first few years of the service, the commercials came through. It was a while before they went to the blue splash screen.

On that note, it's crazy to think that this is the 11th season of MLB.tv for me. MLB was really quick to get on the streaming bandwagon.
   30. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:43 AM (#4403091)
MLB was really quick to get on the streaming bandwagon.


I think MLB was leaps and bounds ahead of the other sports in terms of it's internet presence. That's an area I think they've done an excellent job both in terms of the fan experience and from what I can tell from the owners making money perspective.
   31. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:58 AM (#4403106)
if you want to know the driving force behind mlb's internet presence it was the commissioner. I met with some guys who said they were doing mlb's website design (with the goal of standardizing all teams site layout) and they said the commissioner clearly didn't 'use' the internet but grasped the 'power' of the internet. when they would give him updates he would have a list of features that he had gleaned from others or reading the wall street journal and they would either tell him: yes that is included, no it doesn't apply here or hey that's an idea

they liked working with him.
   32. Nasty Nate Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:01 PM (#4403111)
By the way, cable companies often offer a free preview of the MLB package during this first week, so check those obscure channels and you might get the games. I was able to watch the end of the Darvish game last night on cable.
   33. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:14 PM (#4403120)
Further! I don't understand why MLB.tv doesn't just give you the home feed, commercials and all, when you're in the cable coverage area. Shouldn't that solve the problem?
No, because it wouldn't show up in the ratings for the home feed.

The blackout rules are to protect the value of the broadcast rights for the network that's paying for them.
   34. JJ1986 Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:20 PM (#4403128)
By the way, cable companies often offer a free preview of the MLB package during this first week, so check those obscure channels and you might get the games. I was able to watch the end of the Darvish game last night on cable.


I don't know if it was something wrong with my cable (Verizon), but these channels were working horribly last night. Breaking up every few seconds.
   35. zack Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:21 PM (#4403130)
I think MLB was leaps and bounds ahead of the other sports in terms of it's internet presence. That's an area I think they've done an excellent job both in terms of the fan experience and from what I can tell from the owners making money perspective.

Except for highlights, unless that's changed. MLBAM's offices are in the friggin' Chelsea market, too.

Question for those who have cut cable, do you still use Comcast (or whatever your local cable is) for high speed internet?

In most of DC proper, the only options are Verizon DSL and (in some places) RCN cable. DSL is terrible, so unless you can get FiOS I wouldn't bother switching.
   36. Mirabelli Dictu (Chris McClinch) Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:46 PM (#4403172)
FiOS, however, is awesome. If you live in a FiOS market and have cable, you have only yourself to blame.
   37. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:53 PM (#4403183)
FiOS, however, is awesome. If you live in a FiOS market and have cable, you have only yourself to blame.
FiOS has every apartment in my building *except* mine set up for FiOS. I tried to get them to set me up before I moved in, but they never did. That and Comcast offered a pretty damn good deal without a contract made it easy to go to Comcast for now.
   38. zack Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:53 PM (#4403184)
Agreed. If only I didn't always live in...transitioning...neighborhoods.

Oh, and if you live in the Empire state, this is really cool.
   39. Lassus Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:05 PM (#4403213)
MLBAM's offices are in the friggin' Chelsea market, too.

They have two of their own elevators, nicely done up outside and inside. Or you can walk up five flights of a narrow stariway if you commute via bicycle.
   40. Flynn Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:12 PM (#4403221)
MLB.com is fine for highlights. Better than the NHL and NFL's websites, which either crash a lot or force you to watch several ads before hearing the monkeys flinging poo that is the NFL Network's highlights show. They've also put hundreds of old highlights on their site, as much as any league allows on Youtube. I've watched Barry Bonds homer off Ray King, the Rick Camp home run, Ryne Sandberg's home runs off Bruce Sutter, Pedro striking out 17 Yankees, Gary Carter's last hit and all sorts of stuff.

And speaking of Youtube, if you know where to look there is a treasure trove of highlights around. It's not as easy as typing in Don Larsen perfect game but...oh, wait, it is. I spent an hour and a half on Sunday watching highlights on Youtube. A video of the 1982 Giants season, Jim Northrup's triple off Bob Gibson, an Expos comeback en francais, some TV from the 1961 World Series from Crosley Field, Ruben Rivera's wander around the bases, Bo Jackson throwing out Carlton Fisk from the warning track, etc.
   41. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:12 PM (#4403222)
Except for highlights, unless that's changed. MLBAM's offices are in the friggin' Chelsea market, too.


I'm fine with them keeping stuff off YouTube, they're pretty good at getting highlights on MLB.com. What frustrates the hell out of me is every time I want to see a highlight I have to sit through a 30 second ad. It's not worth it to watch a 30 second commercial to see Jose Bautista swing and hit a home run in what amounts to a 6 second highlight. I love watching highlights on my iPad though.
   42. McCoy Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:17 PM (#4403231)

Except for highlights, unless that's changed. MLBAM's offices are in the friggin' Chelsea market, too.


As Flynn & Jose said already MLB.com is actually pretty good at providing high quality video clips of virtually all the highlights in all the games of the day as well as more mundane stuff for each game and they have now added a ton of historical highlights to their sight. What they don't do is let every Tom, Dick, and Harry to post bad (or good) quality video clips from their old VHS tapes to YouTube. It's a bit of a negative but the positives blow this one negative out of the water.
   43. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:32 PM (#4403253)
I still use Comcast for my cable. Matter of convenience more than anything.

I am in pretty much the same boat with AROM. Voxter, how much does Comcast charge you just for high-speed Internet?
   44. zack Posted: April 03, 2013 at 01:37 PM (#4403259)
They've also put hundreds of old highlights on their site, as much as any league allows on Youtube.

Adding the old highlights is a huge improvement that I didn't know about. That takes care of a lot of the concern.

They still have editorial control over everything though, which isn't cool. I disagree about the NHL though, they let pretty much anything fly on youtube, and they have highlights of every goal on the site. Their website lost a lot of functionality this year, though. I like to watch the individual goal highlights from the box scores, which sucks when they make you watch a 30 second ad (and nearly always the same 3 ads) before every video.

But the amazingly cool thing they do is that embedded videos don't include the ads, so when sharing videos you don't force people to watch ads. And now there is Don't Tell Me the Score, which is genius and awesome.
   45. McCoy Posted: April 03, 2013 at 03:43 PM (#4403400)
I am in pretty much the same boat with AROM. Voxter, how much does Comcast charge you just for high-speed Internet?

In our area if you are a first time customer the cheapest option is 35 dollars a month for the first 6 months after that it is 50 dollars a month. I believe the cheapest option possible if you are cutting the cord is 30 dollars a month and the download speeds are 3 Mbps. First time customers would get charged 40 dollas a month for that level of service.

At some point this year I might very well cut the cord again and save myself 100 dollas a month.
   46. KT's Pot Arb Posted: April 03, 2013 at 06:03 PM (#4403529)
That blows so much ass. I recently cancelled my cable subscription because the only thing I watched was sports. Going just the on-line route saves me a ton of money, but MLB.tv is totally worthless to me if I can't watch the Angels while they're playing.


Can you watch the games over air from your local affiliate?
   47. Paul D(uda) Posted: April 03, 2013 at 07:39 PM (#4403620)
Check out media hint on Chrome or Firefox. I think it will let you watch your local team.
   48. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: April 03, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4403748)
Can you watch the games over air from your local affiliate?

In Chicago the Cubs have moved primarily to the RSN. Which is owned by Comcast. So they certainly have incentive to keep it on cable exclusively. Although they did license it to DirecTV.

I just don't understand why they couldn't come to some sort of agreement where the ads are shown on the streaming feed and the people streaming are counted for ratings. Who would be against that? I only see two arguments:

-The mentioned one about the cable company wanting to offer it and charge. I get this one, but it doesn't seem to override the increased eyeballs because it's the medium that would want this, not the provider.

-The pressure for a local cable company to offer the games or the RSN. It sounds resonable to say that you can't watch the Mariners in Portland because the Mariners want to sell the rights to a local Portland station and no station would pay if people could stream. But does that ever actually work? Has some station in Las Vegas picked up the broadcasts of one of the six teams blacked out there?

I just don't see how the blackout rules really make any sense.
   49. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: April 03, 2013 at 10:12 PM (#4403829)
I just don't understand why they couldn't come to some sort of agreement where the ads are shown on the streaming feed and the people streaming are counted for ratings. Who would be against that? I only see two arguments:
The advertisers may be against that, because it would give a false impression of who is actually watching the ads.

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