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1. The District Attorney Posted: February 06, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4363960)Which, I guess, makes him a mere pup in the knuckleball universe.
I'm thinking Art Fern's "Tea Time Movie:" Josh Booty, John David Booty, Doug Flutie, Shooty Babbitt and Rex the Wonder Horse in "Bambi Goes All the Way for a Buck"
A discussion in the NFL thread turned to bad weather games, so I took a stroll down memory lane watching clips of the 1996 Grey Cup on youtube.
The McManus to Eddie Brown juggle catch, Jimmy "The Jet" Cunningham, Gizmo Williams, and of course Doug Flutie...all in the snow.
Now that was some fun football. For me, football isn't football if it's not played in snow.
The entire game is actually on youtube, but here's Brown's catch.
He's only 26 days older than Jamie Moyer.
A memorable night on a bunch of levels: A snowstorm when the forecast was for a half-centimeter of snow, the game itself, the Cuban cigars my brother and I stupidly smoked in a closed car because we didn't want to stand outside and we couldn't take them back to the States, the guy sitting behind us who appeared to be a Tourette's sufferer who had gone off his medication, and his mentally challenged daughter who alternated between bawling that her dad wouldn't take his medication and wondering where Hamilton's mascot T.C. was.
I have never been that cold for that long in my life.
Anyway, real baseball starts soon. We needed fake baseball back in Dec and Jan, not now.
Mark Tressman will be changing all that.
They'll just have him wear a bag on his head during all of spring training.
He used to talk about the drop kick when he was with the Bears. What I remember him saying was that you could do a drop kick from anywhere in the field, not just behind the line of scrimmage. So his theory was that you could have a situation where time was running out, let's say only 10 seconds to go on the other team's 45, down by 1. The defense would assume you were going to try a hail mary. They wouldn't care if you passed to the middle of the field on the 20 yard line since there wouldn't be enough time to set up for the field goal. So you send all your guys but one to the end zone, and all their defenders are there too. You pass to your receiver on the 20 who drop kicks for 3 points, you win.
I'm guessing you can't actually do that, but he had certainly practiced drop kicks to the point where I'm not surprised he talked a head coach into letting him do it.
Weird, considering it's generally known as "The Snow Bowl". I seem to recall they're usually good on attention to detail for stuff like that.
Was it at least in Hamilton?
It was still within the rules when he talked about it. The NFL wiped that option out a few years ago because, I guess, that would have been fun to see.
I used to referee touch football and we played with Canadian scoring rules (ie a single point possible on a punt) so the pass and kick play was always a possibility on the last play of the half. In practice though I never saw anybody get more than 20 yards on a kick. Usually more like 5.
Now if you recruited an Aussie rules player -- well some of them are pretty effective on the run. Though all of the really long kicks happen on dead ball plays.
Speaking of which, while perusing youtube for CFL clips I saw an ESPN documentary on Australian punters. I didn't realize there were so many of them, though I suppose it only makes sense considering Aussie Rules. A couple of the guys talk about it as a retirement plan...when your knees go and you can't run so well anymore, retire and join the NFL!
I didn't say the drop kick was eliminated. I was referring to Greg's question about the drop kick being able to be taken from anywhere on the field. That once was the rule, up until the late 90s/early 00s. The NFL changed that rule to require it be taken from behind the line of scrimmage, as is the case with other kicks.
Yes. They mentioned Ivor Wynn Stadium and Hamilton correctly.
D-oh. My bad.
I'd bet on Flutie over the field.
Mark Lemke tried this. Didn't work.
He wouldn't need to buy cleats; he could just wear his hobnailed-boots.
up until that rule change, you could legally punt from anywhere on the field --though, for the life of me, I can't think of a situation where you would punt once you were beyond the line of scrimmage
BOOTY BOOTY FLUTIE THROWIN' KNUCKLERS EVERYWHERE!
KNUCKLERS EVERYWHERE! KNUCKLERS EVERYWHERE!
I didn't know that. I only knew about the drop kick.
The only example I could think of is a soon-to-be-failed fourth and long try, though it's hard to imagine having enough room to get the punt off but not enough room to try to get the first down.
I don't know, it seems possible, or would be if anyone ever practiced kicking on the run. That or bicycle punt.
The end zone refs in Aussie rules football have the best combination of sartorial splendor and hand gesture I have ever seem. Remind me of some bizarro version of Inspector Gadget crossed with Pee-wee Herman.
Don't ever do that again.
Indeed only a true boor would adulterate such poetry.
Weird, considering it's generally known as "The Snow Bowl". I seem to recall they're usually good on attention to detail for stuff like that.
Was it at least in Hamilton?
How many Americans have even heard of the Grey Cup? Or know there's a town in Canada named Hamilton? Or can even remember 1996?
Absolutely. I would very much pay to watch a movie that was just endless clips of AFL goal signals set to Phillip Glass.
Unfortunately, those uniforms were from the 80's. The current umpire get-up is rather more plain.
Wouldn't surprise me if there are more Americans who know there is a Hamilton, Canada than there are Canadians.
There was a Cowboys game on MNF in the early 80s where Danny White, who was the Cowboys punter as well as the starting QB, ran a fake punt and then changed his mind and punted the ball as he approached the line of scrimmage. The punt itself was legal but the play was penalized because the Cowboys had men illegally downfield due to the delay in the kick.
Buddy Ryan, in addition to the "Polish Punt" also had his team do the opposite--he had the punter chuck the ball down the field and got a pass interference call. They changed the rule after that.
What's a Canada?
It is embarassing when folks on an educated website just make up words like this and pretend they are places, times or things. Well except for the 'Grey Cup', I am pretty sure that was in that one Harry Potter movie.
For some reason, back in 1971 or so I sent off for a full set of O-Pee-Chee CFL cards. And the last book on football I read, almost certainly, was a history of the CFL, maybe 5 years ago.
I think that means I know more about the CFL than any other person in Alabama. Which probably isn't saying much.
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