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1. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 04, 2012 at 02:01 PM (#4123554)Bah. I didn't know about Yauch's health issues, but now I know why the RnRHoF fast-tracked putting them in over far more deserving bands.
Was MCA really a Primate? I got to interview him briefly a few years back, and I would have mentioned that had I known. He was, by all accounts, a really good guy.
RIP - and I agree, Paul's Boutique was brilliant.
Apparently so.
Holy ####. I had no idea he was THAT Adam Yauch. Puts an interesting gloss on #18 in this thread...
RIP, man.
*sigh*
That sucks. RIP. Glad I got to see them in concert back in the day...
Wow, that's awesome that he was a Primate, if only for a short period of time.
That says he last posted on the off-day in between games 2 and 3 of the aught-four world series.
/// has the 'view all posts by this member' feature EVER worked on this site?
Now I'm wondering if that was the real Ralph Malph posting at the end of the thread.
I must confess coming to the conclusion that the Beasties were meatheads as a result of Fight..., and thus it took me longer than it should have to come around on how good they were.
RIP.
Me, too. I couldn't stand that first album, but everything after was solid.
Concurrence: Achieved.
I grew up with my parents' 60s record collection and didn't pay any attention to current popular music until I heard "Ill Communication" for the first time. So for me, at least, the Beastie Boys were the #1 influence on my adolescence.
There's actually a lot of great stuff on that album once you get past "Fight for your right." That has to be one of the most bizarre hits of all time -- it projects an image of the band that was almost totally at odds with their history and talent, and was nothing like the rest of the songs on the album.
RIP.
He is the Beastie that turned me around on the band. Listen to MCA and you get a level deeper into the song.
Paul's Boutique is the Pet Sounds of hip-hop. A truly underrated record, relative to their more popular albums.
There's actually a lot of great stuff on that album once you get past "Fight for your right." That has to be one of the most bizarre hits of all time -- it projects an image of the band that was almost totally at odds with their history and talent, and was nothing like the rest of the songs on the album.
Yeah, although I don't understand people who hated "Fight". The video was silly but it's a fun song.
Was it all that different from No Sleep or Girls or even Brass Monkey? I'm not saying it's not different, I guess I just don't see it.
I understand the point people are making, but the fact that they were a more sophisticated group than that song might suggest- and that was in evidence on that album- doesn't really change the fact that they were (1) really young (and acting like it) when that album was recorded and (2) that hip-hop at the time was still, I believe, heavily influenced by its MC and House/Block Party roots. Fight for Your Right ties in pretty well with that tradition. It just translates it into something for another type of crowd. Their ability to do that, to say nothing of when they were doing it, is, to my mind, one of the things that sets them apart from a lot of similarly talented acts.
I definitely do not want to flame up this thread, just my 2 cents.
EDIT- Cokes.
Nothing to add beyond, other than, the man could really ####### rap.
If someone says a couple months from now, "Where has X been?" I'm going to think X was Adam.
I would be really surprised if he is still posting now
I'm going to stop posting now and see if I can fool you.
Nathaniel Hornblower looks an awful lot like Harveys Wallbangers.
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Was it all that different from No Sleep or Girls or even Brass Monkey? I'm not saying it's not different, I guess I just don't see it.
THose are party songs, but they have a very different feel to me. I don't know -- maybe it's just a personal thing.
Even their most recent album, Hot Sauce Committee Part 2 is pretty damn good.
Wasn't expecting to find so many people having the same experience.
RIP MCA
This is bummer news.
I think Ill Communication was the first tape I ever bought with a parental advisory sticker on it.
Always liked their music, childhood and college wouldn't have been the same without it. Such a shame to die so young.
I would be shocked if that was actually Yauch posting. If Yauch had been a poster, I'd wager that he would have used a handle.
Well, Repoz says he's a Primate, and I've always assumed Repoz knows just about every musician that has come from the New York area. Now, I suppose it's possible that Yauch is a Primate and someone else posted under (or shares) his name, but that seems more unlikely.
So true on both fronts
Maybe it's time to get into classical music?
Only if you're well into senility. Or have become tired of the music selections your chauffeur plays when he drives you around in the limousine.
Others may disagree, but that's how I felt about "Date Rape" on 40 Oz to Freedom.
Well, Repoz says he's a Primate, and I've always assumed Repoz knows just about every musician that has come from the New York area. Now, I suppose it's possible that Yauch is a Primate and someone else posted under (or shares) his name, but that seems more unlikely.
Ah, didn't know Repoz verified.
That's not a bad analogy, actually.
Hell yes, find a good opera and check that #### out.
I think opera is actually pretty off-putting for someone exploring classical music for the first time. I'd go with some symphonies first. Beethoven #7, Brahms #3, Mahler #2 to start. I'm not the biggest fan of the Classic Period, so you'd have to go elsewhere for your Haydn and Mozart symphony recommendation.
As far as smaller, chamber works - Early music, you can't go wrong with Marin Marais or my namesake, Orlandus Lassus (diLasso, etc.) Schubert and Szymanowski for string quartets. Some people love their solo piano work, and here I would go for Brahms as well, with the dark horse of Charles Alkan.
That's at least a good start.
I listen mostly to rock and folk music, but I love Haydn's Symphony No.94.
Honestly, I wouldn't recommmend absolute music for a beginner in most cases. Program music, stuff like Ma Vlast or the Symphonie fantastique or the Manfred Symphony or various symphonic poems are very useful in that they provide a context for someone dipping their toe into a new sound world. It's generally easier for a beginner to relate to "this is the part where Sarka and the rest of the rebel women slit the throats of the sleeping drunk men" rather than "here's where Mahler finally gets to the E-flat major chord he's been teasing for an hour."
You've got the rhyme and reason but no cause
Well if you're hot to trot you think you're slicker than grease
I've got news for you crews you'll be sucking like a leech
I'm really just so sad about MCA's passing. There was so much joy and fun in his art. Thanks Adam.
I dig classical music but can't stand opera for the most part.
The easiest guys to get into classical music tend to be the heavy metal fans. I'm not one, but there's a lot of overlap.
I think it's due mostly to the guitarists in metal/hard rock. The classically influenced styles of guys from Blackmore to Rhoads, to Malmsteen, et al likely led listeners to Bach, Mozart, etc.
/ro'reilly
You're allowed to do that. Well, actually you aren't, but I'll give you a pass just this once.
Try a Beethoven Piano concerto. Try Wozzeck. Debussy sacred and profane danses. The list is long.
I think Run-DMC might have had the rock beats in rap before the Beasties, but there's no doubt that the Beastie Boys greatly expanded the audience for rap.
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