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Callaway aims to reduce Mets’ injuries with analytics, research - NY Daily News

“One of the things that we realized is that backing off is no way to condition a pitcher to stay healthy,” Callaway said. “You have to get after it. You have to push yourself.

“You can’t go run a marathon without pushing yourself to condition yourself the right way. So we’re going to push guys to the limit to make sure that they can endure everything they’re going to have to go through in a major league season.’’

Jim Furtado Posted: November 15, 2017 at 06:10 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: November 15, 2017 at 01:24 PM (#5576635)
You know those guys who couldn't stay healthy when we babied them? Work them harder!

Matz, get back out there....
   2. PreservedFish Posted: November 15, 2017 at 01:27 PM (#5576639)
Works for me.
   3. Captain Supporter Posted: November 15, 2017 at 04:03 PM (#5576774)
You know those guys who couldn't stay healthy when we babied them? Work them harder!

I have yet to see any evidence that babying pitchers is reducing arm injuries. I'm a fan of working starters for more innings during the season, shutting them down entirely in the off-season to rest their arms, and having them pace themselves during a game rather than throwing as hard as they can at all times. Of course, this would be an adjustment for many (most?) modern day pitchers as it puts a premium on changing speeds and controlling location. You would have to teach it as the minor league level.
   4. Tim M Posted: November 15, 2017 at 08:59 PM (#5576932)
Why does analysis of how to preserve pitchers never suggest demanding of them an honest assessment of how they are feeling? I'm not sure what you ask them, but maybe start with "how are you feeling... and if you injure yourself, we're not gonna be pleased, and your next contract offer won't be pleasing either".

If I ran a team, I'd have every pitcher fill out a (anonymous to the rest of the team, to "save face") mini-ballot every day, ranking themselves from 1 = perfecto, to 5 = not good, probably shouldn't pitch today, and go from there.
   5. BDC Posted: November 15, 2017 at 09:07 PM (#5576934)
You could reduce the Mets' injuries by DFA'ing the entire roster and replacing them with 25 arthritis patients from Assisted Living.
   6. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 15, 2017 at 09:32 PM (#5576950)
having them pace themselves during a game rather than throwing as hard as they can at all times.


Wasn't it Carlton or someone who basically said he went at about 80-85% to get through the innings, games, seasons each year? Occasionally dialling it up when required? Or was that just most guys who started up until recently? Nolan Ryan need not be considered.

I'll be curious if more off speed stuff isn't thrown next year seeing as Houston seem to really take to throwing a bucketload of curveballs and how that affects the workloads/pitch counts.
   7. cmd600 Posted: November 15, 2017 at 09:34 PM (#5576952)
but maybe start with "how are you feeling... and if you injure yourself, we're not gonna be pleased, and your next contract offer won't be pleasing either".


The guy who lets the coaches know every time his elbow flares up is going to have trouble getting to AA, much less a major league rotation.
   8. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: November 16, 2017 at 10:38 AM (#5577185)
Actually, training them from Rookie league forward so that they work smarter, not harder and hopefully getting more stamina out of them is a great strategy. But it will take 4-6 years to re-imagine the pitcher development workload concerns, right?

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