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Camden Chat: Peter Angelos responsible for Jim Johnson trade, until he’s suddenly not

The Isidor Fink case left more clues than this!

Public comments from Orioles owner Peter Angelos about the state of the franchise are rare. Baltimore Sun columnist Peter Schmuck found one way to lure out Angelos on Thursday afternoon:

Peter Schmuck @SchmuckStop

Schmuck Stops Here: Ownership fingerprints are all over the Orioles’ trade of Jim Johnson

...Ownership fingerprints are all over the Orioles’ trade of Jim Johnson

If you’re waiting for the Jim Johnson trade to fit nicely into some offseason master plan that makes perfect sense, you’re probably going to be disappointed.

Within 45 minutes of the article being posted, there was an update on the Baltimore Sun’s website, with the headline now reading, “Peter Angelos denies that his fingerprints were all over the Orioles’ trade of Jim Johnson.”

On its face, the claim of Angelos meddling is somewhat ridiculous. What evidence have we seen that Angelos has intervened on particular players recently? It’s likely that Angelos set a budget - that you or I may not like - and that Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations Dan Duquette has to make decisions to field a competitive team within that budget.

...In the updated Schmuck column, he indicated having a telephone interview with Angelos. One highlight of the interview, relayed in the new version of the column:

  “That decision is up to the manager and general manager,” Angelos said. “Do we talk about economic decisions? Overall, yes, but not specifically about individual moves. Fundamentally, those decisions are their decisions.”

This is as it should be. Fans may not always like the decisions that are made. Fans may not like the budget constraints the team appears to be operating under. However, there’s no reason to believe Angelos stepped in and told Duquette to trade Johnson.

Repoz Posted: December 06, 2013 at 06:47 AM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TerpNats Posted: December 06, 2013 at 09:35 AM (#4611733)
So is the Cuban Pete we know and "love" back?
   2. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: December 06, 2013 at 11:59 AM (#4611869)
If Angelos really told Duquette to trade Johnson for Weeks, he made a pretty good move.
   3. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: December 06, 2013 at 01:46 PM (#4612216)
Schumck isn't much of a columnist. I can't stand Angelos, but it's laughable to suggest that he ordered Duq to trade Johnson. As noted in #2, it's a very sensible baseball decision. And Schmuck didn't appear to have any evidence that Angelos was involved other than the fact that he's cheap.
   4. KT's Pot Arb Posted: December 06, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4612250)
Angelos picks up phone. "Duquette!" he thunders.

Dan Duquette answers his phone. "Yes, sir, what can I do for you?"

Angelos: "I demand you address the needs of this baseball team within the budget parameters I have specified!"

Duquette: "Yes, sir, I'll get right on it".

Angelos slams reciever.

Duquette is befuddled. What could the big man really mean? Suddenly, he pounds his desk and calls for the assistant GM.

The assistant GM rushes into Duquettes office. "What's up boss?"

Duquette: "I just spoke to Angelos, he wants us to trade Johnson for Weeks!"

Assistant GM: "Johnson? For Weeks? But that's insanely doable and makes uncommonly good sense. Do we have to do it?"

Duquette:"Have to? Of course we have to. This is what the big man told us to do, we never question his decisions!"

Assistant GM: "Correct as always Double D, I'll get on it right away!"
   5. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: December 06, 2013 at 02:07 PM (#4612266)
I'm not sure how I feel about the Orioles at this point. A lot of fans are b*tching and moaning about the lack of activity and the budget restraints, and I'm sympathetic. The team is in the perfect position to add a couple of good FAs, and I think they can afford a slightly larger payroll. That said, it sounds like the payroll for 2014 is going to be around $100M, so it's not like we're in Astros territory. And I'm not sorry the orioles haven't given Ellsbury $150M, Cano $240M, or Feldman $30M.
   6. Joey B. is being stalked by a (Gonfa) loon Posted: December 06, 2013 at 02:10 PM (#4612271)
I always love it when Schmuck talk about the schmuck. It's a perfect circle of irony.
   7. KT's Pot Arb Posted: December 06, 2013 at 07:21 PM (#4612639)
or Feldman $30M


Per Fangraphs, worth $42M his last 5 years, $21M his last 2. And that's at $5M/WAR. If you need a backend starter for your rotation, seems like a reasonable deal to me.
   8. escabeche Posted: December 06, 2013 at 07:49 PM (#4612658)
So what are the Orioles doing? Will they be in on Choo? Should they be? Hole in the outfield with McLouth gone, and forgoing Johnson and Feldman makes them $20m cheaper than they'd otherwise be.
   9. Curse of the Andino Posted: December 07, 2013 at 12:03 AM (#4612787)
So what are the Orioles doing? Will they be in on Choo? Should they be? Hole in the outfield with McLouth gone, and forgoing Johnson and Feldman makes them $20m cheaper than they'd otherwise be.


Well, they ain't getting Beltran. I'd love to see Choo in LF, but who knows if they'll pay what it's gonna take.
   10. Belfry Bob Posted: December 07, 2013 at 11:29 AM (#4612943)
Schmuck is a lousy writer and an even lousier thinker.

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