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1. Paul The Paranoid Android Posted: April 07, 2008 at 11:29 PM (#2734280)Translation: I couldn't, so now they shouldn't.
For some reason, admiring home runs bothers me, but pitchers celebrating after a strikeout doesn't.
Due to the typo and poor phrasing, I don't think I do, Frank.
That's classic right there.
Probably b/c a lot of the admiring is of non-HRs, and it ends up costing the team.
There's no on-field downside to celebrating a strikeout. Admiring a home run often costs a base, or even an out.
Probably b/c a lot of the admiring is of non-HRs, and it ends up costing the team.
"A lot" seems like an exaggeration. A lot of an exaggeration, actually.
That damn M.C. Escher Stadium. Thank God they tore that place up.
It's a trap!
Uh, maybe my reading comprehension is a little slow, but he's saying that he likes it when players show they're enjoying the game; he's just against players showing up other players.
[didn't RTFA, just the blurb]
That's being awfully kind to Frank. I'd call it more of an aggressive jog.
There was nothing wrong with the fist pump...and I'm a Jays fan.
Getting excited about doing something well at a key moment in a game against a respected opponent?
We should ENCOURAGE that!
Eh, it depends. If it turns into NFL-style (celebrations after every tackle and five yard run), then it will become annoying. I don't attach much of a moral aspect to it, it's just that celebrations are boring when ubiquitous.
Normally, I'd agree with you, although it didn't bother me when Hanley Ramirez admired his "HR" earlier this season and got gunned down at 2B by Church.
After watching a lot of baseball (and sumo, also very understated), I was a bit taken aback when watching pro tennis, and seeing all the fist pumps after every point. And most sports are like that. So, I don't mind that much celebration in baseball, either. But, actually, I do like it when a player gets all of a pitch, and he knows it, and his reaction is not even to start running, watching the ball leave the park, but rather complete indifference to what he's just done.
I agree with this, though I do like genuine celebration. Most displays in most sports look more like efforts to show up the other guy/team. But an actual fit of happiness is fine, no matter how the loser may feel about it, IMO. And, of course, it's hard to know what is really going through the player's mind at the time. I'm mostly thinking about great catches where it's clear that the fielder is both happy, and a little surprised, that he made the catch. Junior had several of these. Spontaneous celebration is cool.
I aalso think admiring a HR is cool but only for the real, no doubters, mammoth HR. If you hit a fly ball that carries a bit and plops just past the fence, you'd better have been busting it. If you hit a 540 footer off the top railing, go ahead and watch. I also like it because it does carry some risk - if you stand and admire it and the ball falls in, you lose bases (and may get thrown out). That risk of humiliation adds to the moment, I think.
Agreed. I think of Pujols' homer in the NLCS - how can you expect a guy to not watch that thing. That was a thing of beauty.
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