Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Saturday, July 26, 2014

Cardinals agree to deal with veteran catcher A.J. Pierzynski

According to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis-Post Dispatch, that’s what has brought veteran catcher A.J. Pierzynski and the St. Louis Cardinals together. The two sides officially agreed to a deal Friday night, and it’s expected Pierzynski will be available on Saturday in Chicago.

Apparently the Cardinals decided they didn’t have clubhouse tension.  It’s pretty hard to make the Cards less likable, but they’ve gone and done it.

Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: July 26, 2014 at 05:19 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: a.j. pierzynski, cardinals, they did what now

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: July 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM (#4758012)
Certainly The Cardinal Way™ will inspire AJ to renounce his lifelong ****ish ways. It's a feeling you can only get from playing for The Best Fans In Baseball.™
   2. JE (Jason) Posted: July 26, 2014 at 11:55 AM (#4758018)
WEEI was unavailable for comment.
   3. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 26, 2014 at 12:05 PM (#4758023)
Oh my God....I think this means George Kottaras is going to get released again!
   4. greenback votes nefariously Posted: July 26, 2014 at 12:32 PM (#4758034)
Yes, Kottaras has been DFA'd.
It’s pretty hard to make the Cards less likable, but they’ve gone and done it.

Certainly The Cardinal Way™ will inspire AJ to renounce his lifelong ****ish ways. It's a feeling you can only get from playing for The Best Fans In Baseball.™

It's good to be king.
   5. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM (#4758039)
I still can't understand why, if Kotteras's defense at catcher is abominable--which clearly everyone in the league thinks it is--he wasn't moved to first base years and years ago. He always had a playable bat that might well have gotten better playing an undemanding position every day; I can't understand why he's instead spent his career as a frequently discarded backup catcher (and getting released in favor of A.J. Pierzynski's rotting, but still #########, corpse is definitely the nadir). Has Kotteras vehemently resisted all efforts to move him off catcher?
   6. PreservedFish Posted: July 26, 2014 at 01:14 PM (#4758058)
In-season ZiPS has Kottaras predicted for a 110 wRC+. That would make him as good as, or better than, plenty of 1B/DH types. It would also make him a no-brainer starting quality catcher.
   7. asinwreck Posted: July 26, 2014 at 03:09 PM (#4758117)
If this gets a Cubs' catcher suspended for slugging Pierzynski again, all good.
   8. Batman Posted: July 27, 2014 at 07:41 AM (#4758318)
Fine, we'll deal with A.J. Pierzynski.
   9. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 27, 2014 at 07:54 AM (#4758322)
I like Georgie and appreciated his time with milwaukee

But by all accounts and personal observation he is poor at receiving pitches so costs the team strikes and is a poor thrower

He is also bad playing first base

Not starter quality. Not close

Feel bad for him as he's a nice guy
   10. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 27, 2014 at 08:52 AM (#4758331)
It's good to be king.

People don't hate the Cardinals because they're a good team. There are lots of good teams. People hate the Cardinals because they act like ########.

AJ should fit right in.
   11. Lassus Posted: July 27, 2014 at 09:17 AM (#4758333)
How has no one mentioned the perfect wording of that headline?
   12. greenback votes nefariously Posted: July 27, 2014 at 10:17 AM (#4758346)
People don't hate the Cardinals because they're a good team. There are lots of good teams. People hate the Cardinals because they act like ########.

Keep telling yourself that. La Russa and Duncan are gone. Pujols and Carpenter are gone. Even guys like Lohse are gone. Before yesterday, nobody in the entire organization aside from Molina had even the tiniest bit of a reputation, and Molina's reputation is largely tied into an altercation where the day before Brandon Phillips called the entire team ######, and then tried to act like he never said it. Pierzynski will disappear at the end of the season, at which point they will return to having one of the dullest rosters in all of baseball.

ETA: I hate typing Phillips. There are too many vertical lines in the middle of that word.
   13. jingoist Posted: July 27, 2014 at 11:15 AM (#4758365)
Why all this angst for the Cardinals ( and Yankees) among the BTF crowd?

This angst seemingly aligns with the collective attitudes I've witnessed among the general baseball-watching public; but I thought this was a "thinking mans" site, where a player or a team's success or failure would be met with a studied, thoughtful analysis and response.

I root for my teams (Nationals, Orioles and Pirates) whenever they play either the Yanks or Cards, but I must be honest and say I am in awe of both teams respective records in league play and can only hope a similar level of success for my teams.

Am I jealous at the Yankees' spending abilities that come from playing in a large market?
You betcha; but there is no use in getting my pantyhose in a wad over things I or my team(s)cannot control.

Pierzynski may not be anyone's ideal player in terms of moral or ethical behavior, but he has had a hell of a career.
Decent stats over 17 years and $60M says so.

I wont root for him but I don't want to see him break a leg.
   14. Willard Baseball Posted: July 27, 2014 at 11:21 AM (#4758368)
People don't like the Cardinals because of their arrogant fans. I live in the state they play in, and it is insufferable. Having to hear "The best fans in baseball", and equating their success because they are so "moral".

Have a friend who is convinced that they were on the verge of releasing Shelby Miller 2 years ago due to drinking, and they have turned his life no other organization would have done that.

Adding Pierogi just allows us to dislike them more...what does Keefe think?
   15. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 27, 2014 at 01:32 PM (#4758431)
The Yankees are pure evil. I wasn't aware disliking them needed justification.
   16. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 27, 2014 at 02:03 PM (#4758452)
My hatred of the Cardinals is based not on drunk driving or Tony LaRussa's big mouth, or their fans whom I have never encountered, but purely on baseball reasons. In other words jealousy.

This year for the first time - ever? - since Ronnie Belliard? - the Cardinals added a well-respected declining veteran (Mark Ellis) who did NOT turn out to have his best season in five years. In fact, he has completely fallen apart. Combine that with Oscar Tavarez failing to do anything so far (at age 22) and it's almost like the Cardinals are no luckier than other teams now.

But if AJ Pierogi can keep up the 324 OPS+ he now has with the Cardinals, it'll be back to normal.

[EDIT: Preston Wilson was good immediately after the Cardinals got him from the Astros. He fell apart later. Reference has been altered.]
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: July 27, 2014 at 02:18 PM (#4758459)
I have encountered Cardinals fans, particularly at Wrigley Field. They lived up/down to their reputation, let's put it that way.

Meanwhile, my brother attended the Final 4 in Seattle 25 years ago that included both Duke and Michigan. He and his pals that went still talk about that epic fan battle for World's Douchiest.
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: July 27, 2014 at 04:09 PM (#4758517)
So far AJ hasn't been horrible defensively, has managed to say the right things, and has hit pretty well, but it's also only been two days, and I feel that Kottaras got the shaft personally.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.



<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF


Thanks to
for his generous support.


You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - April 2015
(1625 - 6:40pm, Apr 26)
Last: PJ Martinez

NewsblogRosenthal: St. Louis Cardinals ace Adam Wainwright believed to have season-ending Achilles injury | FOX Sports
(32 - 6:40pm, Apr 26)
Last: SoSHially Unacceptable

Newsblog4-26-2015 OMNICHATTER
(92 - 6:39pm, Apr 26)
Last: Baldrick

NewsblogOTP - April 2015: Church, baseball, politics: Rahm and Chuy work to close the deal
(3919 - 6:33pm, Apr 26)
Last: Rickey! is just here so he don't get fined

NewsblogAll-around catchers among most valuable commodities in baseball - The Boston Globe
(20 - 6:20pm, Apr 26)
Last: Dr. Vaux

NewsblogYelich dealing with bulging disk in back |
(11 - 5:54pm, Apr 26)
Last: bobm

NewsblogManfred: Rose will be allowed to be part of All-Star Game
(144 - 5:51pm, Apr 26)
Last: cercopithecus aethiops

NewsblogOT: Soccer March 2015
(789 - 5:28pm, Apr 26)
Last: The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB)

NewsblogOT: Wrestling Thread November 2014
(901 - 4:53pm, Apr 26)
Last: NJ in DC (Now with Wife!)

NewsblogCarlos Beltran making case for NY’s most hated player | New York Post
(6 - 4:13pm, Apr 26)
Last: The Yankee Clapper

NewsblogSource: Angels close to trading Josh Hamilton to Rangers | FOX Sports
(22 - 3:29pm, Apr 26)
Last: Sunday silence

NewsblogNick Cafardo | On Baseball: At 40, Koji Uehara in a pitched battle - Sports - The Boston Globe
(2 - 2:10pm, Apr 26)
Last: tfbg9

NewsblogSunday Notes: Bucs’ Watson, Rox McMahon, Belle the Beast, much more | FanGraphs Baseball
(6 - 2:06pm, Apr 26)
Last: Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)

NewsblogThe emergence of Matt Harvey 3.0 -- and a matchup vs A-Rod - NY Daily News
(11 - 1:10pm, Apr 26)
Last: Loren F.

NewsblogThe early leaders in MLB’s “Franchise Four” thing have been announced
(81 - 11:15am, Apr 26)
Last: ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Page rendered in 0.2632 seconds
48 querie(s) executed