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Thursday, December 27, 2007

Cardinals Diaspora: Cardinals Front Office = Liars

“You’ve taken my life-so take my soul
that’s what you said-and I believed it all
Liar-Liar-Liar”

What are my options? Let DeWitt and co earn interest so they can ’spend’ the money in the right places or have them blow some cash on a big gamble like Silva or Tejada? Blow the dough. What’s it matter to me? We’ve already spent the cash- they’re the ones not. Who knows what will pan out or what won’t 2-3 years from now? Nobody does. So to think that this team will have a better chance at a player or players 36 months from now is not only absurd- it’s insulting- just like trying to force-feed me a pu pu platter of LaRue/Izturis/Kennedy/Ludwick up the middle on a team that features the best player in the world. And PS: We’re kind of overlooking the fact that we’re wasting the prime of the best Cardinal ever! It’s funny how much better a guy like Silva or Kudora can be when they play with the best in the world- just ask_____ (Hector Luna, Ronnie Belliard, Abraham Nunez, Jason Marquis, Jeff Weaver, Jeff Suppan, ect al.)

Midway through the off-season, many teams are making final tweaks to their roster. Filling in holes that the big pushes didn’t cover. Putting a team together that will be whittled down to 40 before it gets to 25. For Cardinal fans, the promises that were made 3 years ago, last year and this year have turned out to be lies. A spade is a spade and until we get some proof that DeWitt, Johnny Mo or any other person employed by the team is willing to make the changes necessary to elevate this business above mediocrity, than we shouldn’t relent. After all, it’s a business. And us, the customers, have been lied to long enough.

 

Repoz Posted: December 27, 2007 at 02:32 PM | 200 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Big Train Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:15 PM (#2654722)
I am a solid maybe, so don't buy me a ticket or anything.
   102. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:17 PM (#2654723)
Wow there should be web streaming video for this!
   103. Oriole Tragic is totally awesome in the postseason Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:19 PM (#2654724)
You people want to agree on a revisit date? As in, when should we revisit this to see who is really committed?

At that point we can decide how to do tickets and stuff?
   104. retro-shiite Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:20 PM (#2654726)
130--

Good idea. I'd have to see how much time I can block off, especially if I'm using this as an opportunity to do other stuff within shouting distance of Baltimore. Anyone want to set a "drop dead date"?
   105. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:21 PM (#2654727)
kevin is (soon to be) twice divorced? shocking.
   106. Oriole Tragic is totally awesome in the postseason Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:27 PM (#2654735)
#134:
Re: #132
See? This is exactly what I was talking about in #87.

#133:
I think we should shoot for something closer to the actual game date. I'd say it shouldn't be any earlier than halfway between 31 December and 31 May.

EDIT: How about March 31st? We'll need time to get tickets before all those Red Sox Nazis swallow them all up. Oh, um, present company excepted, of course.
   107. Sam M. Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:50 PM (#2654754)
kevin, most sorry to hear about the personal troubles. Been there . . . . It sucks, but it also turns into something better.

The game meet-up sounds fun, but my baseballing summer calendar is already full: my usual baseball trip with my brother & uncle, and my farewell to Shea . . . . what with other professional trips planned as well, I think that will have to be it for my MLB travels. Alas.
   108. retro-shiite Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:51 PM (#2654755)
If by "before spring training starts" you mean mid-February, I should be able to handle that. (When do single-game seats go on sale, anyway? I can't imagine it's much before then.)
   109. Oriole Tragic is totally awesome in the postseason Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:55 PM (#2654759)
A mid-Feb drop-dead works for me. We can't exactly start a Newsblog thread for it, so to where/whom should we RSVP?
   110. retro-shiite Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:56 PM (#2654761)
140:

Well, we've all got Primer e-mail addies, correct?

I can't believe my quasi-flip comment on wanting to be a fly on the wall at the kevin/Nieporent summit's morphed into plans for a mega-meetup. Well done, gentlemen.
   111. retro-shiite Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:57 PM (#2654763)
Besides, people start meetup threads in the "forum" section all the time.
   112. retro-shiite Posted: December 27, 2007 at 10:58 PM (#2654765)
Remember, this is a Sox game we're talking about. Most of the jerseys will be carmine. I would like to get the order in before spring training starts, to beat the stampede.

Carmine, I don't think it's right for you to extort money from BTF-dom.
   113. retro-shiite Posted: December 27, 2007 at 11:02 PM (#2654769)
retro, I have an unopened bottle of Redbreast waitin' for ya.

Awesome. I have an extremely opened bottle with about half a shot left in my liquor cabinet. :)

Now, what's this Green Spot you were telling me about at some point? I can't seem to find it.
   114. phredbird Posted: December 27, 2007 at 11:27 PM (#2654779)
since this thread seems to have gone off topic, i'll do a hijack of my own. jon weisman over at dodger thoughts was nice enough to post a painting of mine to commemorate sandy koufax's birthday. have a look, guys, and tell me what you think. i'm not selling anything, just would like some honest opinions. thanks.
   115. scotto Posted: December 27, 2007 at 11:31 PM (#2654781)
kevin, sorry to hear about it. Been there, done that this past month and it hasn't been a chucklefest.

I'd be interested in this meetup for the Sox/O's tilt. I don't believe I have Mini-Manny that weekend.
   116. Backlasher Posted: December 27, 2007 at 11:41 PM (#2654787)
scotto,

I hope the chuckles return soon.

phredbird,

I like your picture. I am not an art critic so I will not pretend to say anything about brush strokes, etc.
   117. phredbird Posted: December 27, 2007 at 11:44 PM (#2654791)
too many brush strokes? but ... but ... my lord, my paintings have as many strokes as they need, no more no less!
   118. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 12:09 AM (#2654804)
I'd be interested in this meetup for the Sox/O's tilt. I don't believe I have Mini-Manny that weekend.

Hell, you should bring him. His first meetup, and (probably) his first beer.

Sorry to bug out last week, BTW; I was sick as a dog.
   119. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 12:12 AM (#2654805)
Wait--there are primates with artistic talent? Un-possible.
   120. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 12:15 AM (#2654810)
BTW...that Green Spot link makes it sound like awfully good stuff. Unfortunately, its being shipped only to Irish destinations doesn't help me much.

Then again, I've been looking for an excuse to get back to Ireland.
   121. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 12:16 AM (#2654811)
retro, you spelled autistic wrong.

Oh, no. I'm well aware of BTFers' autistic talents.
   122. phredbird Posted: December 28, 2007 at 12:16 AM (#2654813)
hey, i resemble that remark.
   123. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 12:24 AM (#2654819)
Then again, I should probably stop at Delilah's to see if they have it, seeing's how it's the best whiskey bar in the country and all, and it's 3 miles from where I live.
   124. base ball chick Posted: December 28, 2007 at 01:57 AM (#2654857)
hello boys!!!

a meetup between kevin and DMN? whoa. too bad i can't be there for that... but the matchup i couldn't miss is retardo and DMN. but that would be a slaughter, no question.

and kev,

i'm real sorry about you and your wife not working out. but you sound like you are taking it OK.

but you know i don't think most couples stay together real too long anyhow. me and husband are almost at 8 years now and i don't know anyone our age who have stayed together that long...

phred,

good work
   125. CiC Posted: December 28, 2007 at 02:31 AM (#2654866)
*ahem*

KEVIN!

Bernal put you on ignore because your ass hole is on fire~~! His time is very valuable, ya dig?! Your brain is piddy, it's little, and he doesn't want to waste that valuable time watching you spew it! It has nothing to do with the ALCS, kapeesh!??

And not only that, but you're a ########## too! EAT IT!

Thank you.
   126. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: December 28, 2007 at 02:32 AM (#2654868)
Oh, no. I'm well aware of BTFers' autistic talents.

Its most likely just aspergers.
   127. TOLAXOR Posted: December 28, 2007 at 02:44 AM (#2654873)
I'M SORRY, BUT WHAT DOES YOUR LITTLE MEET-UP HERE HAVE TO DO WITH MIKE CRUDALE???!!!
   128. Mike Emeigh Posted: December 28, 2007 at 02:45 AM (#2654876)
We can't exactly start a Newsblog thread for it, so to where/whom should we RSVP?


You can start a Forum thread for it.

I might actually have to figure out a way to get up to Baltimore for this one, too.

-- MWE
   129. Phil Coorey. Posted: December 28, 2007 at 02:54 AM (#2654880)
Jesus - I think I might fly over for this one.

Sorry about your marriage, Kevin.
   130. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: December 28, 2007 at 03:09 AM (#2654884)
Of Montreal? Phil, you are a gentleman of impeccable tastes.
   131. chris p Posted: December 28, 2007 at 03:14 AM (#2654886)
I'M SORRY, BUT WHAT DOES YOUR LITTLE MEET-UP HERE HAVE TO DO WITH MIKE CRUDALE???!!!

everything.
   132. Phil Coorey. Posted: December 28, 2007 at 03:18 AM (#2654888)
Of Montreal? Phil, you are a gentleman of impeccable tastes.


I still think his previous album was better but yeh I am a sucker for Elephant 6 and friends. I've been playing lots of Akron/family and panda bear as well. Cool , easy going stuff

How you been mate?? All the best & merry xmas and a happy new year from my new family!
   133. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: December 28, 2007 at 03:26 AM (#2654893)
Thanks Phil. Congratulations and a happy new year to you and yours. Lu and twins are looking hale and hearty.

As for myself, I'm a working man now and doing well. Seeing a nice girl; you would approve.

Let me know if the family life affords you an opportunity to visit the states again.
   134. scotto Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:09 AM (#2654913)
Hell, you should bring him. His first meetup, and (probably) his first beer.

I think I made it until at least 11 before my first beer. I think I'm going to try to keep him at least that long.

Sorry to bug out last week, BTW; I was sick as a dog.

No worries. Let's reschedule sometime in the new year.
   135. base ball chick Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:15 AM (#2654919)
hi phil!!!

your wife and babies are beautiful. she looks great. whoaaaa they are 2 months now aren't they? the first thing i really remember after i had the twins was about 10 weeks later - the allstar game ending in a tie. i hardly had enough sleep... i still looked awful
   136. base ball chick Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:23 AM (#2654922)
   137. scotto Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:39 AM (#2654936)
Awesome Phil. Happy New Year to you and the tykes!
   138. Phil Coorey. Posted: December 28, 2007 at 05:07 AM (#2654966)
thanks bc and scotto.

It's been crazy would be an understatement. Poor old Lu is exhausted
   139. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: December 28, 2007 at 05:14 AM (#2654972)
kevin,

Am sorry to hear about your marriage. Hang in there. And remember, you'll always have Pedroia. ;)

You'll never be on my ignored list. Who's gonna bust my chops about this? Is it March 12 yet?

Nice to hear about your new job. I recently finished a project for a major pharma on evaluating their portfolio to respond to the government's goal of improving pandemic preparedness. We should talk sometimes, I'm sure we can figure out a way I can bribe you for the betterment of humanity.

Finally, it's a shame I can't join y'all for that game. It'd be fun. kevin would probably want to beat the snot out of me for trying to bribe him while Backlasher would be biting his tongue jonesing to say "put a Milo on him"...
   140. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: December 28, 2007 at 05:18 AM (#2654978)
Phil, the youngins look great. Awesome. I think they're just about ready to go out huntin' for 15 foot crocs out north by Darwin. Best of luck to you and your family in 08. Those babies will be up and running and talkin' back at you before you know it. Don't I know it...
   141. esseff Posted: December 28, 2007 at 05:53 AM (#2655001)
Unrelated question: Why did The Man get to play 1943 and 1944, while almost every other star was trying to get revenge on the Germans for what they did to Pearl Harbor?


Musial, like other American men with dependents, was initially draft-deferred because he had a son born before the war.
   142. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 06:43 AM (#2655044)
Oh, no. I'm well aware of BTFers' autistic talents.

Its most likely just aspergers.


Well, that IS part of the autism spectrum...
   143. Dan The Mediocre Posted: December 28, 2007 at 06:55 AM (#2655047)
Oh, no. I'm well aware of BTFers' autistic talents.

Its most likely just aspergers.

Well, that IS part of the autism spectrum...


I was going to give a detailed explanation of the autism spectrum, but I figured that would just prove your point.
   144. Phil Coorey. Posted: December 28, 2007 at 08:59 AM (#2655061)
Phil, the youngins look great. Awesome. I think they're just about ready to go out huntin' for 15 foot crocs out north by Darwin. Best of luck to you and your family in 08. Those babies will be up and running and talkin' back at you before you know it. Don't I know it...

Thanks levski.

My girls will be going nowhere near Darwin, if I have anything to do with it!! In fact, if they are anything like Dad the only outdoors they'll appreciate will be for cricket, the beach, baseball and golf.

How old are your kids now? Sounds like you are having fun
   145. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: December 28, 2007 at 11:05 AM (#2655072)
Various observations:

I enjoy retro's posts.

I have minimal empathy for Cardinal fans at large. The Cardinals are the most successful NL franchise in MLB history and as a group their fans do not distinguish themselves when things don't go just SO. It is disappointing if not outright distasteful.

kevin, I am terribly sorry to hear about the marriage. Best of luck working through the situation.
   146. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:04 PM (#2655139)
I was going to give a detailed explanation of the autism spectrum, but I figured that would just prove your point.

Well played.
   147. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:05 PM (#2655140)
Oh, and congrats on the twins, Phil--they look great. And Lu's still smokin' even after carrying around two mini-Phils for 9 months. ;-)
   148. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:07 PM (#2655142)
I enjoy retro's posts.

Well, thanks (feeling's mutual), but then again, you don't root for a team against whom I have an active rooting interest, so you wouldn't have to deal with my snark. Oh, wait...
   149. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:11 PM (#2655146)
Phil, but croc hunting is about as exciting as games 4, 5, 6, 7 of the 2004 ALCS. And I have one boy, who turned 2 (years) recently. His favorite word now is "No".

kevin, I actually like my job. Been at it for almost 2 years now. And I prefer to remain in the NYC area for a while, plus we bought a house last year. But thanks. I can still send you my cv if you register on lavalife though and are interested :)

And Callaspo is out of jail... but he's with the Royals now, so am not sure he's better off ;) And no PCL inflated stats for him; he's out of options, and definitely out of Tucson. My guess is he outhits Pedroia in 2007 (as far as wives are concerned)...
   150. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:17 PM (#2655154)
I can still send you my cv if you register on lavalife though and are interested :)

Will this be on the "intimate" section?
   151. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:37 PM (#2655176)
For as many times as kevin and I've butted heads (sometimes in fairly nasty fashion), I don't recall putting him on "ignore." I believe there's only one poster who's earned that distinction.

What do I win?


No, BL, it isn't you, either.
   152. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:43 PM (#2655178)
My guess is he outhits Pedroia in 2007 (as far as wives are concerned)...

Is that "hit" in the Julio Lugo sense, or in the Leo Durocher sense?
   153. Dan The Mediocre Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:46 PM (#2655182)
For as many times as kevin and I've butted heads (sometimes in fairly nasty fashion), I don't recall putting him on "ignore." I believe there's only one poster who's earned that distinction.

What do I win?

No, BL, it isn't you, either.


I bet I know who it is, and no, I'm not implying that it's me.
   154. retro-shiite Posted: December 28, 2007 at 04:50 PM (#2655188)
I bet I know who it is, and no, I'm not implying that it's me.

You're definitely correct as to the latter, repugnant though your mediocrity is.
   155. Valentine Posted: December 28, 2007 at 05:00 PM (#2655199)
Phil, cute pic! Hope you get an occasional good night's sleep. (Or would that be asking too much?)

Good luck rebuilding, Kevin. Change is hard, but often good. Just don't tell us you have a five-year plan. :-)
   156. Bunny Vincennes Posted: December 28, 2007 at 10:02 PM (#2655600)
Wait--there are primates with artistic talent? Un-possible.

I thought you knew I painted oil on canvas. Its been some time since I've done it, but I'm proud enough to hang them in my apt.
   157. Bunny Vincennes Posted: December 28, 2007 at 10:07 PM (#2655614)
I believe there's only one poster who's earned that distinction.

I've got my dollars on that jackass Beano Cook.
   158. robinred Posted: December 28, 2007 at 10:12 PM (#2655623)
kevin and Nieporent meeting at an Orioles game? Really? Maybe I should go. Is Andy going? He lives in DC.
   159. robinred Posted: December 28, 2007 at 10:19 PM (#2655636)
kevin,

Sorry about your marriage.
   160. Your Ace from Outer Space Posted: December 29, 2007 at 03:23 AM (#2655936)
So the list so far:

kevin
DMN
retro
Roiding Team (Oriole Tragic)
Backlasher
AROM
GGC
sj
JC

Am I missing anyone?


I'm sure the kevin-DMN meetup is gonna have all the grandeur of a urine test. Then again, I'm no idealist; I just think meetups are fun. So I'm in - what happens next? Do we need to plan ahead to get tickets?

BTW kevin, you say you're OK with your marriage ending... I hope so, and I wish you good luck throughout the rest of the process.
   161. Joe Bivens, Idiot Posted: December 29, 2007 at 05:55 PM (#2656259)
I'm in, until the 14th. At which time I will be out.
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