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Thursday, February 15, 2018

Cardinals needing more sleep

Reset the alarm clocks and hit the snooze button for an extra hour of sleep, practice has been moved back for the St. Louis Cardinals.

“That’s not necessarily so we can get a later dinner reservation,” explained Mike Matheny this morning. “As we went through our sleep trackers last year, our guys were getting less than seven hours of sleep a night–seven good hours on an average. That’s just not enough for what we’re asking of them once they come out here, especially after we start to compete.”

The Cardinals put together an internal research group last season to track various measurables from the team with several players wearing special tank tops under their jerseys to help record data. That information has been collected, shared, and now being put to use.

cardsfanboy Posted: February 15, 2018 at 07:41 PM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Sleepy's not going to blame himself Posted: February 15, 2018 at 11:11 PM (#5625872)
The Cardinals put together an internal research group last season to track various measurables from the team with several players wearing special tank tops under their jerseys to help record data. That information has been collected, shared, and now being put to use.
This was Jim Edmonds idea of a joke, right? And it went over Matheny's head?

   2. PreservedFish Posted: February 15, 2018 at 11:40 PM (#5625877)
I read that Roger Federer and LeBron James sleep 10 hours per night and nap every single day on top of that. They probably exercise more than any baseball player ever, though.
   3. manchestermets Posted: February 16, 2018 at 07:04 AM (#5625930)
Or, as Bill Hicks put it, "I need eight hours sleep a day. And about ten at night."
   4. Gary Truth Serum Posted: February 16, 2018 at 11:51 AM (#5626056)
And Mikaela Shiffrin was interviewed by NBC last night not on her gold medal performance in the slalom (she didn't medal) but on her world class ability to take naps between runs. This is the new market inefficiency, people.
   5. Master of the Horse Posted: February 16, 2018 at 02:49 PM (#5626180)
Got excited for a moment thinking it said the Cards were being put to sleep.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: February 16, 2018 at 04:55 PM (#5626229)
I found it fascinating that last year they were researching it, and made adjustments because of it. Whether they are the right adjustments who knows. I learned a long time ago about the value of naps (and no, not from Kindergarten, although they were right) I average around 6 hours a sleep most days(more on non-work days, less on work days) and it works for me, but that is with a 45 minute nap most days(included in that number) at about the halfway point (after work, and before I start making dinner) meanwhile my gf needs a minimum of 8 hours to be normal and my brother,(who engages in some smoke typing things) needs at least 10. I think it's interesting the data that teams are collecting and their willingness to look for any edge that they can....and I'm certain that this is going to lead to some bad moves by a team here or there, but I do think that ultimately the amount of data beyond just the box score is going to be fully explored.

I got a fitbit this summer(gift from gf's work) and it's simple data is pretty extensive and has led to me altering some behaviors, and I imagine that with the data a pro-sports team collects, that they could make even more informed decisions.... I mean I make my decisions simply because of the data and assumptions, a team is going to have doctors (physical and mental) giving them recommendations on the data and whether it's actual important data or not.
   7. cardsfanboy Posted: February 16, 2018 at 04:58 PM (#5626232)
And Mikaela Shiffrin was interviewed by NBC last night not on her gold medal performance in the slalom (she didn't medal) but on her world class ability to take naps between runs. This is the new market inefficiency, people.



Every Marine has an ability to nap in any situation available to them. You can't put that crap off, a 15 minute nap could add up to another 2 hours of wake time, and considering that we on more than a few occasions had 36 hour or longer shifts, those 15 minutes are huge.
   8. BDC Posted: February 16, 2018 at 04:59 PM (#5626233)
A friend of mine recently got a smart bed that tracks your sleep patterns. It told her she was sleeping 23 hours a day. This confused her till she realized that it was logging both her and her dog.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: February 16, 2018 at 06:58 PM (#5626282)
TMI Alert! TMI Alert!

I certainly sleep better and more at night since I started being reasonably serious about fitness, threshold and interval sessions, etc. On the other hand, I think mainly due to reducing carbs, I don't crash nearly as often during the day -- really only sometimes after a long bike ride -- so I suspect that total sleep hasn't changed much.

But the bike ride thing itself seems a threshold sort of thing (maybe) because after I do an event (usually about 100 miles which I never do on my own), I am physically spent but not sleepy and actually horny as hell. I've never gotten to employ this horniness after an event which is really frustrating. Anyway, I've always found that weird. Maybe my body's doing nothing but producing testosterone for the last 25 miles.
   10. Balkroth Posted: February 18, 2018 at 12:09 AM (#5626528)
I sleep like 3 hours a night if lucky. The joy of engineering.
   11. Russ Posted: February 18, 2018 at 09:02 AM (#5626562)
I sleep like 3 hours a night if lucky. The joy of engineering.


At 42 years old with 3 young kids, 95% of my sleep times are between 5 and 6 hours. Anything less than 4 hours of sleep at my age means I'm useless (and likely going to become ill within a couple of days), more than 6.5 hours is virtually impossible (unless I'm already sick).

Definitely 6 hours is the sweet spot for me... however, I think I'm different from most people in that I fall very quickly into a very deep sleep when I go to bed, so I think I make up for quality what I lack in quantity.

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