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1. Koot Posted: July 06, 2012 at 07:33 AM (#4174292)I mean, yeah, there's even a Breitbart video that proves he was lying so, case closed!
Also, it's WEEI. Home of the Dennis & Callahan Show or whatever they call it. Ugh.
How do you know he lied?
Racial/ethnic slurs shouldn't be lumped in with booing.
Maybe they were saying "jigaboo"?
He's Swedish.
You don't often see people lined up to protest votes outside office buildings much either, but I suppose it could happen from time to time.
In Boston things are a bit more coarse.
His lips moved?
Beyond that, the person making the false claim is a politician which makes me naturally skeptical of anything that comes out of his mouth.
Lastly, that march was filmed by multiple news outlets from various vantage points and no one reported the racist comment until the congressman lied about that word being shouted at him. Then once he made the false claim the media took it as Gospel truth without questioning it. Since someone brought up Breitbart, he offered $100,000 to anyone who could show any evidence that the word was shouted at the lying congressman - no one claimed the money.
These are the same people who carry around pictures of the president with a bone in his nose. And think he wasn't born in this country because he's black. I'm not saying he did or didn't actually hear it, just that it's insane to claim that it definitively didn't happen.
Breitbart was a loud shrill conservative, but he and after his death, his site, explicitly stated:
People bought into the birth place conspiracy crap for a couple reasons which had nothing to do with race.
1. His grandmother in Kenya claimed she was there when he was born in Kenya. She likely was lying to increase her connection to a famous relative.
2. Barack Obama himself (prior to being a potential presidential candidate) had included the Kenyan born nonsense on literary brochures. I think he may have done that to come across as more worldly. At that point it was all about book sales.
You need to listen to the whole interview with her. On one occasion she says she was there when he was born. On two other instances in the same interview, she says he was born in Hawaii and she was not present. This was almost assuredly a translation error (and she and the interviewer conducted the interview through a translator), and the fact that people are unaware of the fact that his grandmother explicitly denied being at his birth in the same interview shows how dishonestly this issue was covered.
But as a Democratic president it's assumed that his election was illegitimate by a certain segment of the Dittohead Right. Bill Clinton's 1992 election was similarly illegitimate, as the communist-sympathizing Clinton renounced his American citizenship in a letter to the state department during a visit to Moscow in the 1960s. Much like Obama's refusal to release his original birth certificate, Clinton's refusal to open his state department file to inspection provided damning proof of the accusations. This being before the internet and Fox News, these claims didn't propagate as widely.
Both of these contentions are false. First, it wasn't his grandmother, but his step-grandmother. And she never said he was born in Kenya, and in fact immediately corrected the interviewer when he asked which hospital in Kenya Obama was born in. And second, the "literary brochure" nonsense only came out in the last two months, about four years after the birther army assembled.
I am not saying all Republicans are racist, all Tea Partiers are racist, or all people who don't support the president are racist. That is clearly not the case. But birthers are racist and it would absolutely not shock me if one of them called John Lewis a racial slur.
Both of these contentions are false. First, it wasn't his grandmother, but his step-grandmother. And she never said he was born in Kenya, and in fact immediately corrected the interviewer when he asked which hospital in Kenya Obama was born in. And second, the "literary brochure" nonsense only came out in the last two months, about four years after the birther army assembled.
I am not saying all Republicans are racist, all Tea Partiers are racist, or all people who don't support the president are racist. That is clearly not the case. But birthers are racist and it would absolutely not shock me if one of them called John Lewis a racial slur.
EDIT: cokes to all
Right, they're just asking questions because "Barack Obama--who, despite four years in office remains a mystery to many Americans, thanks to the mainstream media."
I suppose re: Crawford the comparisons are Lackey and DiceK. I have not seen evidence CC has had more dung heaped upon him than either of those two guys.
Obama's literary agent seemed to think he was born in Kenya. Her lit agency listed him as Kenyan-born on its website as late as 2007. I don't know where she got that idea.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/born-kenya-obamas-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991/story?id=16372566
What I read about him suggests that he might have been trying too hard while hurt last year to prvoe he was worth that contract. I never thought signing him was wise, but I didn't expect this. Sad story so far; hope it ends better.
I really hate to do this since this really does belong in the politics thread, but I can't let that statement go unchallenged. It wasn't his literary agent, it was a representative of a publishing company that was trying to sign him to write what would become Dreams From My Father. I have no idea why she made that mistake, but of course it doesn't matter since Obama was born here.
Yes you can. You can very easily not post political things outside the thread designated for political arguing.
That makes me wonder if anybody is non-ironically pushing the theory that the number 13 is the cause of his misfortunes.
This. Why should anyone be shocked by anything posted on a WEEI message board when they employ two craven scumeaters like those two?
#13 seems to be working out great for Zack Greinke and Jerry Blevins...except for the 4 years Blevins spent riding the Sacramento-Oakland shuttle and Greinke's basketball injury that he got right after changing numbers.
In 2nd-half dollars:
$ 9.8m Crawford
$ 7.6m Lackey
$ 5.5m Youkilis
$ 5.0m Matsuzaka
$ 4.0m Ellsbury
$ 3.0m Jenks
$ 2.0m Bailey
$ 1.8m Buchholz
$ 0.9m Sweeney
$ 0.4m Hill
$ 0.2m McDonald
$ 0.2m Carpenter
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$40.4m total
Soxprospects has the 40-man roster salary (including players on 60-day DL) in the neighborhood of $160m, so around $80m in the second half. Subtract the on-roster salaries above, and the serviceable players amount to around $48.5m total. Hey, it's not as bad as you feared!
If you want to throw Bard and the other minor-leaguers in with the injured and castaways, that makes it worse, but that seems unfair. However, the moment Gonzalez's undiagnosed injury is revealed and he goes on the DL, it's over.
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