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Thursday, March 21, 2019

Carl Edwards Jr. admits to throwing at Austin Nola on purpose

Cubs sluggers Kris Bryant and Willson Contreras were both hit by pitches during Tuesday afternoon’s Cactus League game against the Mariners. Bryant was hit by Nabil Crismatt in the bottom of the third inning and Contreras was hit by Wyatt Mills in the fifth.

Reliever Carl Edwards Jr. got the final out of the top of the fifth and came back out for the start of the sixth inning. He allowed a leadoff home run to Kyle Lewis, then got Tim Lopes to fly out, bringing up Austin Nola. Edwards hit Nola with a pitch and was promptly taken out of the game.

On Wednesday, Edwards admitted to defending his teammates by hitting Nola with a pitch. Per MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian, Edwards said, “Yeah, I did. It’s just, honestly, it’s like the nature of the game — spring training or not. It’s just you get to a point where you’re kind of tired of the guys getting hit. I mean, those are our big guys. That’s 25-man roster. Those are guys that are going to help us win championships, help us win ballgames. And, you know, all due respect, but it’s the nature of the game. And it just gets to a point where you just get tired, you know? Yes, it was Willy and a couple innings before it was KB.”

Ever get the feeling that these sorts of attitudes are causing substantial problems with the game, especially given how they seem to express themselves in an utter unwillingness to accept any changes?

 

QLE Posted: March 21, 2019 at 08:22 AM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: austin nola, carl edwards jr., head-hunting

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   1. bfan Posted: March 21, 2019 at 01:30 PM (#5824335)
I get the feeling that if he did not act to defend his teammates, the Phillies pitchers would have merrily kept plunking Cubs, to "keep them on their toes" or some other laudable reason.
   2. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 22, 2019 at 07:05 AM (#5824500)
Austin Nola <> Aaron Nola. The beef was with the Mariners, not Phillies. ;)
   3. SoSH U at work Posted: March 22, 2019 at 10:10 AM (#5824532)
Austin Nola <> Aaron Nola. The beef was with the Mariners, not Phillies. ;)


What kind of Mariners team was in Arizona on Tuesday? Considering how bad the full unit should be, that roster must have been horrific.
   4. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: March 22, 2019 at 10:21 AM (#5824536)
What kind of Mariners team was in Arizona on Tuesday? Considering how bad the full unit should be, that roster must have been horrific.


Here ya go.. Raise your hand if you have heard of a single player.
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 22, 2019 at 10:37 AM (#5824546)
Raise your hand if you have heard of a single player.
Oooh! I know! I know! Kelenic is the OF prospect they got in the Cano trade, I think? And Law is Vance Law's son - I heard that mentioned in a game earlier this spring.
   6. Zonk Totally Exonerated by Total BS Posted: March 22, 2019 at 12:16 PM (#5824588)
This is why people need to play more OOTP...

Wyatt Mills is (well, was - this will change when I start playing v20) a reliever Seattle considers fungible toss-in and I then forever get confused with the Cubs Wyatt Short.... because they're basically the same pitcher.

Nabil Crismatt is (also was) the guy the Mets always like to dangle for chaff trades who looks decent enough until you realize he's due to be a minor league FA, isn't worth a 40 man spot, and won't sign a minor league extension....
   7. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 22, 2019 at 12:27 PM (#5824594)
This is why people need to play more OOTP...


And Cal Raleigh tends to develop into a decent catcher even though the scouting report on him calls for a 35 hit tool.

Oooh! I know! I know! Kelenic is the OF prospect they got in the Cano trade, I think? And Law is Vance Law's son - I heard that mentioned in a game earlier this spring.


In addition to Kelenic, Crismatt, and Raleigh, I knew Tito Polo (former Pirates outfield prospect and all-around fun player the Mariners signed as a minor league FA), Kris Negron (well-traveled utilityman), Kyle Lewis (the M’s first-round pick a couple years ago), and Robinson Leyer (hard-throwing relief prospect).
   8. Zonk Totally Exonerated by Total BS Posted: March 22, 2019 at 12:40 PM (#5824601)
And Cal Raleigh tends to develop into a decent catcher even though the scouting report on him calls for a 35 hit tool.


Joe Rizzo is my personal Seattle minor league favorite going back like, three editions.

I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade to v20 today or not... I think I finally managed to pull off my perfect 2018 season and part of me wants to play it another few seasons.

Since I've already hijacked, figure I'll share one of my favorite pasttimes... using the arbitration eligible player exploit to do a swap-a-rama. I think Stephen Vogt might be my masterpiece....

THIS, folks, is how you learn who all the minor leaguers are:

10/31/2018
Was traded by the Boston Red Sox to the Chicago Cubs, along with LF Tyler Dearden, in exchange for RF Jason Heyward, RF Dylan Cozens.
10/31/2018
Was traded by the Chicago Cubs to the Baltimore Orioles, along with SS JT Riddle, 3B Trey Michalczewski, 1B Crisford Adames, SP Mike Shawaryn, in exchange for SP Kevin Gausman, RF JJ Goss, RP Trevor Tinder, SS Adam Hall.
11/04/2018
Was traded by the Baltimore Orioles to the Chicago Cubs, along with SP Leonardo A. Rodriguez, CL Keegan Akin, in exchange for CF Jake Marisnick, RP Felix Familia, 2B Trent Giambrone, RP Jace Fry.
11/04/2018
Was traded by the Chicago Cubs to the Milwaukee Brewers, along with CF Connor Myers, RP Greg Mahle, 3B Jhonny Bethencourt, RP Reagan Bazar, in exchange for 3B Nick Franklin, $799,999.
11/05/2018
Was traded by the Milwaukee Brewers to the Chicago Cubs, along with $499,999, in exchange for SP Kevin Gausman, 2B Austin Filiere.
11/05/2018
Was traded by the Chicago Cubs to the Seattle Mariners, along with 3B Tanner Rahier, SP Florencio Serrano, CF Jiandido Tromp, in exchange for SP Rob Whalen, CF Kyle Lewis, $99,999.
11/07/2018
Was traded by the Seattle Mariners to the Chicago Cubs, along with RP Nathan Bannister, $999,999, in exchange for RP Brandon Maurer, RF Chris Carrier, RF Anderson Castro.
11/07/2018
Was traded by the Chicago Cubs to the Washington Nationals, along with 1B Allen Smoot, RP Garrett Kelly, RP M.T. Minacci, in exchange for 2B Wilmer Difo, SP Dillon Tate, SP Tyler Danish, $99,999.
11/18/2018
Was traded by the Washington Nationals to the Chicago Cubs, along with RP Brady Dragmire, RP Pedro B. Gonzalez, 2B Cole Freeman, $349,999, in exchange for CF Jake Marisnick, RP Mitch Stophel, 1B Lazaro Alonso, RP Tommy Nance, SP Tyler Danish.
11/18/2018
Was traded by the Chicago Cubs to the San Diego Padres, along with RP Brady Dragmire, 3B Cam Balego, in exchange for RP Joey Lucchesi, $299,999.
   9. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 22, 2019 at 02:42 PM (#5824687)
the arbitration eligible player exploit


Wait, what is this, now?
   10. Zonk Totally Exonerated by Total BS Posted: March 22, 2019 at 03:08 PM (#5824697)
Immediately AFTER the season ends, the AI seems to freak out over arbitration estimates. It freaks out over legitimate star players who enter arb with big dollar arb asks, it freaks out over non-worthless/but not worth their demands, and it freaks out worthless players who have demands.... but it's oddly a one-way street - as teams hopelessly in the red (like the Orioles in my for instance above) will take on players that they cannot even afford to tender.

So.... you need to strike IMMEDIATELY - as in, that "next day" before the "postseason begins" following day. This is where you shed your albatross contracts.... or, if you prefer - acquire a star player with a high arb ask. Either way, it's like the accountant is king for a day - and he doesn't have to consult the lawyer or even the rules. Cost certainty gets enormously overvalued for that one single day. That's the sweet spot.

Thereafter - the AI gets desperate to trade players it feels are not worth the estimate, but oddly, only applies this its own players... It's like it only recognizes the ability to non-tender players it WILL acquire via trade (but as you can see above, then immediately forgets and again gets desperate to trade them away again).

It will likewise even goose the dangles with B - even sometimes A - prospects in order to rid itself of this terrifying possibility that it might have to pay Jake Marisnick 1.9 mil.

It filters down to zero - as if there's a learning curve as you near the arb deadline.... but the first week is like a candy shop.

You DO have to be careful... You get a free 5 days until the first offer/response cycle comes to pass - thereafter, be sure the guy who was previously a trade deus ex machina hasn't actually agreed on a contract. The star players who settle on a contract tend to get yanked from availability... but guys who were previously just non-tenders sometimes have settled on a contract and you get stuck with a few million on a guy you didn't actually want.

I only really discovered this by exploiting my own "house rules" (all player trades must begin with shop-a-player).... and I have not yet come up with an agnostic house rule to combat it (because "don't pants the AI even if it's asking for it" is not a house rule).

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