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Monday, November 13, 2017

Carlos Beltran: Muchas Gracias, Béisbol

I am blessed to have shared all of my experiences with my wife and my three kids, my family and friends. To have so many loving fans. To have been able to build a school in Puerto Rico and change the lives of so many kids. To have won the Roberto Clemente Award, which is the greatest honor I could have ever received as a ballplayer.

And I am blessed to be a champion.

But now, my time as a player has come to an end.

Today, I am officially announcing my retirement.

Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: November 13, 2017 at 08:28 PM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: houston astros, kansas city royals, new york mets, new york yankees, retirements, st louis cardinals

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   1. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: November 14, 2017 at 09:03 AM (#5575776)
Congratulations to Beltran - a classy statement above, and it is always nice to see somebody who was excellent at what they did end on the high of winning a championship. Very cool.

When I was growing up, there were a handful of players that I would see referred to as the "line" between very good and great. There used to be the "Bobby Bonds line" I would see, which suggested if you were better than Bobby Bonds, you probably were a serious HOF candidate, and if you weren't, you probably were not. Vada Pinson's name would come up in a similar context, as well.

So, two-part question:

Is Carlos Beltran a serious Hall of Fame candidate?

Will he be this generation's version of the "Bobby Bonds line"?
   2. mathesond Posted: November 14, 2017 at 09:29 AM (#5575792)
Don't know if this thread will draw much attention, as another one already exists, but I'll bite on SBPT's questions.

1)Yes, I believe he is a serious HOF candidate, to the extent that I would be stunned if he isn't elected in his first 5 years of eligibility. Granted, I haven't looked to see who he might be up against.

2) No. But maybe Bobby Abreu could be?
   3. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: November 14, 2017 at 09:36 AM (#5575794)
Beltran is being described as a future Hall of Famer in most media outlets so that foreshadows what will be a relatively quick election to Cooperstown. Depending on how crowded the ballot is, he will be voted in within 3-5 ballots

Beltran has strong postseason numbers, as well as a collection of secondary milestones: 400 HRs, 2500 hits, 1500 runs and RBI along with 300 SBs. Add in 3 Gold Glove awards, strong saber stats, his Rookie of the Year award, retiring with a ring along with a good reputation and you've got a great HOF resume
   4. puck Posted: November 14, 2017 at 10:06 AM (#5575817)
One thing I think that went unnoted in the other thread is that Beltran gave us a shout out. He has a baseball labeled "Primer Hit." I didn't know he came to the softball meet ups.
   5. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: November 14, 2017 at 10:44 AM (#5575853)
Enjoy retirement, Carlos -- looking forward to you being back in the news when the time comes to head to Cooperstown.
   6. The Honorable Ardo Posted: November 17, 2017 at 03:36 AM (#5577864)
Beltran will probably be inducted into the Hall of Fame, albeit for his final year (as "veteran presence" on the World Series winner) as much as anything else.

He'll sail into the Hall of Merit. The other thread compared him to Andre Dawson - a member of both Halls, though his Hall of Merit election was contentious. The two are similar, but Beltran is a bit better:

- Beltran reached base more often.
- Dawson had slightly more power (in era context).
- Beltran had more peak value than Dawson in both base running and CF defense, and maintained those skills longer.

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