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Saturday, November 17, 2018

Carson Cistulli From Fangraphs Joins the Blue Jays

Here is a surprise, the Jays scouting department is going in a more esoteric direction.  All scouting reports will now need to be in the form of a haiku or sonnet.

The_Ex Posted: November 17, 2018 at 08:26 AM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: blue jays, fangraphs, scouting

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   1. KB JBAR (trhn) Posted: November 17, 2018 at 10:17 AM (#5788753)
Report of scouting expedition undertaken by the present author the purpose of which was to evaluate the suitability of one Vladimir Guerrero Jr. for seeing Major League Baseball action at some point between the present time, viz. November 17, 2018, and the close of the 2019 Championship Season.
   2. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:15 PM (#5788770)
And his first trade is on the books: Aledmys Diaz to the Astros for AAA SP Trent Thornton.
   3. PreservedFish Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:47 PM (#5788779)
I wonder what his role is? Maybe he'll compose an ode to Thornton in sestina form to be circulated on an internal newsletter.
   4. DJS Holiday-Related Pun Posted: November 17, 2018 at 12:53 PM (#5788782)
I wonder what his role is? Maybe he'll compose an ode to Thornton in sestina form to be circulated on an internal newsletter.

Back when he told us he was leaving, he said that he was going to be doing some scouting and some work in analytics, kind of a troubleshooter that straddles the areas. He's not having to move to Toronto full-time, though he will need to be there regularly.
   5. PreservedFish Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:09 PM (#5788787)
I had a childhood friend that was scary intelligent. He got a PhD in philosophy, won some national award for his thesis, and was recruited by a hedge fund that is known for assembling geniuses from non-finance backgrounds. His brother (also scary intelligent) is a professional bridge player, which you may not have known was a thing - IIRC they don't earn much money form playing, but are instead sponsored by wealthy patrons.

Not saying that Cistulli is a towering intellect or anything, but he's creative and extremely well versed in all of the new baseball thinking - I could imagine employing him as a kind of in-house consultant, floating outside the usual administrative structure, and giving him latitude to explore his own quirky projects.
   6. KB JBAR (trhn) Posted: November 17, 2018 at 01:34 PM (#5788798)
It never occurred to me that he had undertaken any research that had practical results for things like talent evaluation. Thinking on it, though, the Fringe Five was a well-conceived project that was successful in identifying Major League talent.
   7. DJS Holiday-Related Pun Posted: November 17, 2018 at 02:14 PM (#5788813)
A lot of analytics in practice in front offices is human stuff. Carson knows how to manage analysts, he has a deep understanding of concepts in sabermetrics and scouting, and he's a terrific communicator. As far as I know -- he couldn't tell us everything -- he's not doing any modeling nor is he doing any programming. Skillsets like Carson are extremely valuable (it's why Dave Cameron similar has the role with the Padres that he does).

Teams largely want *everyone* to have deep understanding of analytics these days, even the people not whipping up sweet things in Python.

Meg Rowley will do a terrific job stepping into Carson's role, but I'll still definitely miss Carson, who I only got to work full-time with for four months. He'd instantly pick up on subtle things in my writing that I needed to tidy up that I'd never notice, like the fact that I was occasionally being inconsistent with voice. He's very detail-oriented, it's something none of the ESPN editors mentioned to me in eight years and I've been blessed with excellent editors.
   8. DJS Holiday-Related Pun Posted: November 17, 2018 at 02:19 PM (#5788815)
Like here's another thing he instantly picks up on a short read-through (I'm sure he wouldn't mind my reposting this).

And last pedantic note on usage:
"New York’s 70-92 record in 2017 was hardly an enthralling performance, "
I don't know if a "record" is equivalent to a "performance." It might "point to" or "represent" a performance.

And he was right, too, which is what really sticks in my craw!
   9. GGC Posted: November 17, 2018 at 07:24 PM (#5788889)
I wish I had editing help when I was younger. Fra paolo offered to help about a year or two ago, but by that point I had little time to write.

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