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Tuesday, July 29, 2014

‘Caucasians’ T-shirt mocking Cleveland Indians becomes hot seller on reserves

A First Nations band that wore the shirt was accused of racism.  Honest.

A T-shirt mocking the name and logo of the Cleveland Indians baseball club is a hot item on Ontario First Nations reserves this summer.

John Northey Posted: July 29, 2014 at 01:08 PM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: indians, racism

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   1. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4759835)
As a native American of European descent, I would be gravely offended if I were like a hypersensitive wuss or something.
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:22 PM (#4759851)
Awesome! It's about time something was done about our under-representation in sports logos.
   3. Swedish Chef Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:26 PM (#4759858)
It's about time something was done about our under-representation in sports logos.

That has never been a problem for us vikings, though it's a shame that they always downplay the raping and pillaging, nobody is properly afraid of Scandinavians anymore. Well, nobody but Austrian ski lodge owners.
   4. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:29 PM (#4759862)
Aren't there already 30 kinds of hockey jerseys that celebrate white people?
   5. Cleveland (need new name) fan Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:31 PM (#4759863)
Love it
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4759866)
That has never been a problem for us vikings, though it's a shame that they always downplay the raping and pillaging, nobody is properly afraid of Scandinavians anymore. Well, nobody but Austrian ski lodge owners.

Funny that the Romans don't get any love as mascots. The Centurions or the Legionaires would be a decent mascot. Just as good as Trojans (they got wiped out) or Spartans (unpleasant on all sorts of levels).
   7. Joey B. Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:34 PM (#4759867)
That is pretty funny. Of course the Northern Colorado Fighting Whities beat them to the punch by a dozen years.
   8. Swedish Chef Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:34 PM (#4759868)
Aren't there already 30 kinds of hockey jerseys that celebrate white people?

Sweden has this in the top league.

It has never been entirely clear which indian tribe inhabited Göteborg and environs.
   9. PreservedFish Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:39 PM (#4759875)
They could have a Sami equivalent though, right? Do they?
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:48 PM (#4759881)
Now, if Daniel Snyder had a sense of humor, he would roll out "The Whiteskins" logo for a preason game.
   11. BDC Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:49 PM (#4759883)
A First Nations band that wore the shirt was accused of racism. Honest

White folks: we can dish it out, but taking it is another matter :)

I have a ticket to an Indians game later this week, and the thing is a little bit embarrassing to look at; I'm not exactly showing it off. I guess it won't look that awkward when I actually get to Cleveland. Meanwhile, this Caucasians logo lifts my spirits, for sure.
   12. Swedish Chef Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:49 PM (#4759884)
They could have a Sami equivalent though, right? Do they?

I don't think so, it's not from America, so it wouldn't be cool.
   13. Perry Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:58 PM (#4759896)
Love it, and glad the guy's making some money off it. I bought one for my brother (an Indians fan) several years ago, but I don't know if he actually wears it.
   14. PreservedFish Posted: July 29, 2014 at 04:59 PM (#4759898)
I don't think so, it's not from America, so it wouldn't be cool.

Cool as in hip, or cool as in socially acceptable?
   15. Randy Jones Posted: July 29, 2014 at 05:04 PM (#4759901)
I bought one of these shirts several years ago when I first saw them. Hilarious shirt(and I am white). Although, I will say, the quality was shitty, it basically faded and then fell apart within a year. Also, the company that makes them, Shelf Life Clothing, has pretty terrible order fulfillment, but decent customer support(or at least they did 4-5 years ago when I was dealing with them). I made an order with them, and they sent me the wrong items 3 times before I finally got the right items on the 4th try. But their customer support people were easy to deal with and issued me return mailing labels and such quickly.
   16. Swedish Chef Posted: July 29, 2014 at 05:09 PM (#4759905)
Cool as in hip, or cool as in socially acceptable?

Cool as in hip. Though I do think people would give a #### about something like that. Probably.

Another reason that won't happen is the Sami's unwarlike reputation, not suitable at all for a hockey team.
   17. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: July 29, 2014 at 05:11 PM (#4759907)
I love it, too, but I'm slightly amazed that some ####### suit hasn't tried to stop it.

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Now, if Daniel Snyder had a sense of humor, he would roll out "The Whiteskins" logo for a preason game.

If the Deadskins changed the name to "Rednecks", they wouldn't have to skip a beat, not even in their fight song.
   18. PreservedFish Posted: July 29, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4759913)
Another reason that won't happen is the Sami's unwarlike reputation, not suitable at all for a hockey team.

But the mascot could ride a reindeer. On ice!
   19. ursus arctos Posted: July 29, 2014 at 05:43 PM (#4759929)
Funny that the Romans don't get any love as mascots. The Centurions or the Legionaires would be a decent mascot. Just as good as Trojans (they got wiped out) or Spartans (unpleasant on all sorts of levels).


The Ottawa Senators wave politely.

And after this ridiculously risible to claim a Spartan origin for their name, they are all about the Romans as far as history goes.

ursus minor has a Frolunda sweater via a friend in Goteborg. He couldn't figure out what it had to do with Sweden either.
   20. Jim Furtado Posted: July 29, 2014 at 06:08 PM (#4759944)
Now, if Daniel Snyder had a sense of humor, he would roll out "The Whiteskins" logo for a preason game.

How about Washington Palefaces or Washington Crackers?
   21. Jim Furtado Posted: July 29, 2014 at 06:16 PM (#4759951)
They wouldn't be the first sports team named Crackers.
   22. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: July 29, 2014 at 06:22 PM (#4759958)
Funny that the Romans don't get any love as mascots. The Centurions or the Legionaires would be a decent mascot.

Any team named for the Romans would totally get conquered by the University of Idaho Vandals.
   23. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: July 29, 2014 at 06:23 PM (#4759959)
They wouldn't be the first sports team named Crackers.

Which brings up the Atlanta Black Crackers, a name that rings extremely strange to contemporary ears.
   24. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 30, 2014 at 10:48 AM (#4760314)
That has never been a problem for us vikings, though it's a shame that they always downplay the raping and pillaging, nobody is properly afraid of Scandinavians anymore.


Indeed. And those Capital One ads just make a mockery of the whole thing.
   25. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: July 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM (#4760318)
If the Deadskins changed the name to "Rednecks", they wouldn't have to skip a beat, not even in their fight song.


Screw that, I'm preemptively offended at any association with that team.
   26. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 30, 2014 at 11:15 AM (#4760338)
The Ottawa Senators wave politely.

And after this ridiculously risible to claim a Spartan origin for their name, they are all about the Romans as far as history goes.


Well, they definitely don't want to be associated with the real "Ottawa Senators".
   27. GregD Posted: July 30, 2014 at 11:19 AM (#4760343)
I assume the disease killed any chance of Legionaires.

Athenians would be good for an elitist coastal city. The Hoplites would be good if the name didn't sound wussy
   28. spike Posted: July 30, 2014 at 11:44 AM (#4760372)
If the Deadskins changed the name to "Rednecks", they wouldn't have to skip a beat, not even in their fight song.

Are you kidding? Their merch sales would quintuple and their fanbase along with it.
   29. Howie Menckel Posted: July 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM (#4760414)
seems kind of outdated, given how much the Indians have (thankfully) downplayed that particular logo in recent years.

"we don't like that thing that, granted, we almost never see anymore!"

humor is all about timing

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