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Monday, May 05, 2014

CBS: Who’s The Evil Empire Now? Rays Say Rule Gives BoSox Right To Force Doubleheader

The Red Sox lobbied for a doubleheader to be played Thursday after rain in Boston washed out Wednesday’s scheduled game against the Tampa Bay Rays.

The struggling Rays wanted no part of a double dip.

But this one goes to the Red Sox, mainly because Boston gets what it wants, according to the Tampa Bay Times:

“Rays acting player rep Ben Zobrist said that their objections — which officially included a questionable weather forecast for today, and several other makeup possibilities during May and September visits — didn’t matter.

“In short, the Rays were told by MLB that the Red Sox (and Cubs) have exceptions to the standard rules in the Basic Agreement ‘to basically exercise their own right to do what they want to do.’ “

From http://mlb.mlb.com/pa/pdf/cba_english.pdf

ARTICLE V—Scheduling [...]

C. Additional Scheduling Agreements
(1) Split doubleheaders may be included in the original schedule
pursuant to Section E below. Provided that neither of the Clubs
involved in the proposed rescheduled game has already played or
has been rescheduled to play a total of three split doubleheaders
(exclusive of any splits in the original schedule) in that champion-
ship season:
(a) each Club shall have the right to reschedule any postponed
game as a split doubleheader when ticket sales for the game at the
time of postponement exceed, in any respect, the number of com-
parable tickets available to be exchanged by the Club for the bal-
ance of the championship season, and both the postponed and
rescheduled game occur in the last regularly scheduled series
between the two Clubs at the Club’s park; and

(b) when there is no practical alternative to doing so, the
Boston Red Sox and Chicago Cubs shall have the right to
reschedule a postponed game as a split doubleheader to be played
in, respectively, Fenway Park and Wrigley Field, even if the cri-
teria set out in subparagraph (a) above are not met. Scheduling a
postponed game as part of a conventional doubleheader will not
be considered a practical alternative

bobm Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:50 AM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: cba, cubs, rays, red sox

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   1. joeysdadjoe Posted: May 05, 2014 at 06:13 AM (#4700196)
Worked out so well for them.
   2. SteveF Posted: May 05, 2014 at 06:43 AM (#4700197)
Apparently the exceptions was created in 1996 and has been grandfathered into every subsequent CBA. The logic apparently was seating capacity. At the time Wrigley and Fenway were purportedly two of the smaller parks. That was certainly true about Fenway. I'm not sure where Wrigley ranked at the time.

Fenway is still one of the smaller parks, but there are others with lower/similar seating capacities. Wrigley doesn't look to be that much smaller than average.
   3. Lassus Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:32 AM (#4700199)
Boo hoo.
   4. Publius Publicola Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:32 AM (#4700200)
Wait, the Cubs are the Evil Empire now? When did that happen?
   5. Paul D(uda) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:57 AM (#4700202)
If you're an AL East Fan, the Red Sox have been the villains for 7 or 8 years.
   6. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:28 AM (#4700203)
If you're an AL East Fan, the Red Sox have been the villains for 7 or 8 years.


They're the Joffrey Baretheon of baseball.
   7. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:31 AM (#4700205)
It certainly seems unfair that the Red Sox and Cubs have this special rule in place but it's not clear to me why the doubleheader shouldn't have been scheduled for Thursday. The alternative was scheduling a DH for later in the season and given the possibility of more rainouts that seems like unnecessary squeezing of the schedule. Get the games in while you can.
   8. Obo Posted: May 05, 2014 at 09:53 AM (#4700222)
If you're an AL East Fan, the Red Sox have been the villains for 7 or 8 years.

I disliked the Red Sox before they got unpopular.
   9. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:00 AM (#4700227)
If this is what makes Boston the evil empire, you haven't been paying attention.
   10. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:00 AM (#4700228)
They're the Joffrey Baretheon of baseball.


I think the Yankees are Joffrey. The Red Sox are probably closer to Roose Bolton.
   11. Publius Publicola Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:00 AM (#4700229)
I approve of any league policy that discriminates against the Yankees.

I think this fits the bill but am not sure.
   12. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:22 AM (#4700243)
They're the Joffrey Baretheon of baseball.

I think the Yankees are Joffrey.


Preposterous. The Red Sox are the offspring of the incestuous relationship between Bud Selig and John Henry.
   13. RickG Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:31 AM (#4700249)
My first thought regarding Wrigley is not seating capacity, but night games. They can only schedule so many under their agreement with the city (I believe the number has climbed on recent years, but maybe not 1998). So it's possible the Cubs need the exemption so they can schedule an afternoon game before an allotted night game. But that's just a semi-informed guess.
   14. ursus arctos Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:38 AM (#4700255)
Two of the three current parks that are smaller than Fenway (Miami and Tampa Bay) both have roofs, which makes them much less likely to "need" this rule. The third park is Oakland's, whose capacity has been significantly limited by ownership. As noted above, it is a bit harder to support the Cubs' special treatment, given that there are about ten smaller parks in MLB (including the Cell in Chicago), and a significant number that are only marginally bigger.
   15. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4700261)
The Yankees are the Targaryens.
   16. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4700324)
They're the Joffrey Baretheon of baseball.

Is that Joey Buttafuoco's latest alias?
   17. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:50 AM (#4700326)
I guess this means the Orioles are Stannis Baretheon? The Rays are Robb Stark? And the Jays are Remley?
   18. SandyRiver Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:54 AM (#4700330)
and both the postponed and rescheduled game occur in the last regularly scheduled series
between the two Clubs at the Club’s park


This part of the rule seems odd:
1. Who reschedules the postponed games when this is not the case? The league?
2. Why the "both"? If the postponement is during that final series, can one clairvoyantly set the rescheduled game earlier?
   19. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:57 AM (#4700334)
The Rays are Stannis, The Orioles are Balon Greyjoy (did someone remember that we exist?), and the Jays are Robb Stark.
   20. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:00 PM (#4700338)
Hank Steinbrenner is Aerys II, Hal is Rhaegar, Randy Levine is Viserys, and Brian Cashman is Daenerys.
   21. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:21 PM (#4700369)
The Rays are Stannis


Joe Maddon's face does look like it was birthed in salt and smoke.
   22. Anonymous Observer Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:25 PM (#4700374)
Wouldn't the Yankees be Bran Stark, since they are crippled by the economic system put forth by Bud Selig?

Also, who is Hodor?
   23. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4700380)
The Rays are Stannis, The Orioles are Balon Greyjoy (did someone remember that we exist?), and the Jays are Robb Stark.


I realize Yankees fans don't realize that there are divisions outside of the AL East, but it bears mentioning that there are, and that the Starks quite openly had no desire to sit the Iron Throne. The Jays are Renly, perhaps. The Starks are a NL team who want nothing more than to be kings of their own lands and justice for the murder of their patriarch. So the Cardinals or something.
   24. bunyon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4700392)
Billy Martin should never have written that book.
   25. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:39 PM (#4700393)
The Jays are Renly, perhaps.


I wonder who gets to be Ser Loras?
   26. bunyon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:45 PM (#4700401)
I wonder who gets to be Ser Loras?

That would have to be some scout in Cuba. The timing is off - you could probably find some guy in Cuba in the 70s who had been big in MLB before the revolution.
   27. Nasty Nate Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4700414)
Who is Hot Pie?
   28. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:57 PM (#4700423)
Also, who is Hodor?


Adam Dunn.
   29. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4700432)
Also, who is Hodor?


Manny being Manny, obviously.
   30. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4700443)
Who is Hot Pie?


Matt Stairs?
   31. Sonic Youk Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:50 PM (#4700482)
Did Felix Pie ever have a stretch that would qualify as hot?
   32. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:05 PM (#4700740)
[23] I realize Yankees fans don't realize that there are divisions outside of the AL East, but it bears mentioning that there are, and that the Starks quite openly had no desire to sit the Iron Throne. The Jays are Renly, perhaps. The Starks are a NL team who want nothing more than to be kings of their own lands and justice for the murder of their patriarch. So the

...Braves, surely? Who, historically, lose interest in progressing further once they've won their division or league?

(note: I assume this is Game of Thrones you're all riffing on, which I've never read/seen)
   33. villageidiom Posted: May 06, 2014 at 08:35 AM (#4700972)
and both the postponed and rescheduled game occur in the last regularly scheduled series between the two Clubs at the Club’s park
This part of the rule seems odd:
1. Who reschedules the postponed games when this is not the case? The league?
2. Why the "both"? If the postponement is during that final series, can one clairvoyantly set the rescheduled game earlier?

1. IIRC it's the home team, with codified restrictions to prevent idiocy (e.g. scheduling for when the opponent is already scheduled to play elsewhere). For split doubleheaders the players have veto power over the rescheduling, except in the specific cases listed: the one you quoted, and the one involving the Cubs and Red Sox. That's what has the Rays players bent out of shape... They can normally veto a split doubleheader this early in the season, but the rules prevent it in this case.

2. The "both" is to ensure the rule isn't applied to when a game is rained out in April and rescheduled in the last series, or when the game is rained out during the last series but rescheduled during a mutual off day later in the season. In either of those cases there are viable alternatives to rescheduling within the same series as the rainout.
   34. SandyRiver Posted: May 06, 2014 at 12:06 PM (#4701163)
Thanks. That makes more sense than how I interpreted it.
   35. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: May 06, 2014 at 02:18 PM (#4701287)
The Yankees as Targs could work. They were great when they had Riverion, Jetar and Jorgaxes, but they've lost a step since and trended towards madness.

The Dodgers are the Tyrells, upjumped new money swanning in after past generations burned themselves out.

Also, wait, if the Red Sox are Lannisters, who's Tywin?

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