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Wednesday, November 07, 2018

CC Sabathia to return to Yankees in 2019 | MLB.com

I know some Yankees fans might not be happy but he’s a decent 5th starter, especially at that price.

Sabathia and the Yankees have agreed to terms on a one-year, $8 million deal, MLB.com has confirmed. The deal has not yet been officially announced because Sabathia must undergo a physical, which is expected to take place on Wednesday.

Jim Furtado Posted: November 07, 2018 at 08:53 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Good Face Posted: November 07, 2018 at 09:31 AM (#5783550)
I'm happy. He projects to be a league average-ish starter and the contract is great for the team. Plus he's a longtime Yankee, history, tradition, blah blah blah.
   2. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 09:35 AM (#5783551)
I'm a Yankees fan ... I'm happy ... what #1 said.
   3. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:06 AM (#5783560)
Quality pitcher, quality Yankee, quality American. What's not to like?
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:16 AM (#5783565)
4th-5th starter money for a guy who had a 120 ERA+ last year seems quite good.
   5. BDC Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:20 AM (#5783570)
Not many comparable careers through age 37, but those that are, are Hall of Famers:

Player            WAR  GS ERA+   W   L     IP  ERA  FIP
Robin Roberts    80.7 563  114 271 228 4386.0 3.40 3.50
Fergie Jenkins   78.4 515  118 259 194 4010.0 3.28 3.20
CC Sabathia      62.2 538  117 246 153 3470.0 3.70 3.72
Tom Glavine      61.4 537  121 251 157 3528.0 3.43 3.84 


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 11/7/2018.

Glavine had four good years left at that point, two of them All-Star seasons; he added a bit to his resumé. But Jenkins had one good year left, and Roberts the equivalent of one (over two half-seasons with the Astros). Their HOF tickets were already punched.

Sabathia has a ring, a CYA, a 20-win season (one of two where he led the league in Wins), and he's still not all that old, as great veteran pitchers go. He's obviously never struck anyone as being in a class with Clemens or Randy Johnson, but within hailing distance of Glavine – I can see that.
   6. ajnrules Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:22 AM (#5783573)
Sabathia can breeze past 250 wins and 3000 strikeouts in 2019. With those counting stats he'd have to be taken seriously as a Hall of Famer. Of course he can put those doubts to bed by getting to 300 wins.
   7. Man o' Schwar Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:46 AM (#5783591)
He won 9 games last year on a 100-win Yankee team. Even if you bump him up to 12 wins a year, he still needs 4.5 seasons to get to 300.

He needs a couple of those seasons where the offense always seems to put up 7-8 runs behind him (so the anti-deGrom), and he can win 18 games even if his ERA slips back north of 4.00.
   8. Chris Fluit Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:58 AM (#5783604)
I'd love to see him get to 300 but it's a stretch. His last 3 years have been a best-case scenario and that only netted him 32 wins. Another three years like that only gets him to 278.
   9. Blastin Posted: November 07, 2018 at 11:04 AM (#5783614)
He says it's his last year.

But 250 wins and 3000 k, that's a great career. I'm glad he pulled it together after his addiction.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 07, 2018 at 04:00 PM (#5783863)
Sanathia could be useful, probably in no more than ~ 5 inning stints, but better have some pitching depth beyond him.
   11. sgt23 Posted: November 09, 2018 at 11:59 PM (#5785299)
I think another number that should be looked at that gets thrown around a lot for HOF comparisons is the 3000 innings / 3000 strikeout combination. Probably an ancient comparison in today's game.
   12. TVerik. Old Java Rodney. Posted: November 10, 2018 at 05:37 AM (#5785310)
What Yankee fan could possibly be against this?
   13. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: November 10, 2018 at 07:26 AM (#5785314)
What Yankee fan could possibly be against this?

Stick around for the first time Sabathia makes 3 straight early exits, and you'll find an entire stadium full of them.

More seriously, I'm glad they signed him for all the reasons stated above, but I agree with Clapper that this should only be the beginning. The starting rotation as it exists now is an accident waiting to happen, and they're putting way too much burden on the bullpen.

   14. BDC Posted: November 10, 2018 at 08:55 AM (#5785329)
Sabathia isn't the draft horse he was ten years ago, but he was 74th in the majors in IP in 2018 and tied for 57th in Games Started, and of course pitched very well in the process. He may collapse in 2019, but right now he's not exactly a weak link compared to his peers.

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