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Thursday, March 30, 2017

CENTRAL PARK - JULY 1, 2017 10 AM - BBTF ANNUAL SOFTBALL EXTRAVAGANZA

I think this year we should make t-shirts.

The Central Park field for 10 AM on July 1st has been submitted for approval to the Parks Department, but not yet assigned.  We’re waiting to hear back.  It’s never been a problem as yet, so hopefully it won’t be this year as well. UPDATE: 10:30 AM to 1:30 PM, Great Lawn, Field #2. -vi

Note: This is the same weekend as the massive SABR extravaganza in NYC.  I would expect all connections and all favors to be called in to get some retired MLB players or broadcast and basement-dwelling notables to come by.  Rob Neyer, Tommy Lasorda, Benny Agbayani, Robothal, Pete Rose, no target too high.  Or too low.  So maybe Calcaterra could make it.

Let’s hear it, who’s coming?

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   201. villageidiom Posted: June 05, 2017 at 03:45 PM (#5469191)
See above; we have a field confirmed.

I've updated the list to remove TomH, who has SABR conflicts, and Shooty, who never said he could make it and reportedly will be out of town. I've also added Mike to pre-game, and shifted Foghorn there due to SABR conflicts.

YES (21):
villageidiom
Scott
Chicago Joe
catomi01
Lassus
JE
Howie Menckel
snapper
Hysterical & Useless
Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim
Met Fan Charlie
Blastin
Edmundo
PASTE
AndrewJ
djordan
JoeD
reech
freeend of reech
catomi02
catomi03
TomH
Shooty


MAYBE (5):
Bote Man
McCoy
Never Give An Inge
Karl from NY
billyshears

PRE-GAME ENTERTAINMENT (3)
Steve Treder
Mike Webber
Foghorn
   202. Mike Webber Posted: June 05, 2017 at 09:16 PM (#5469408)
Google Earth Image of Great lawn field 2

Well, I guess that is the map, but drill down to see an actual image I guess.
Thanks for confirming the field VI!
   203. Bote Man Posted: June 05, 2017 at 10:21 PM (#5469454)
I'm driving in and hoping to score a "free" parking space on Central Park West or equivalent. Crazy?
   204. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 06, 2017 at 07:42 AM (#5469547)
vi, I'm surprised they couldn't tell over the phone that you're not shooty. You're much taller.

If the pre-game is still planned for 9 AM at The Field (which will be in use, alas), I also hope to be on hand for that. I presume the SABRcats are providing the dancing girls.


I'm driving in and hoping to score a "free" parking space on Central Park West or equivalent. Crazy?


Which part? The driving, the parking, or the "free"? Or "all of the above?"
   205. Lassus Posted: June 06, 2017 at 07:50 AM (#5469550)
Attempting to find parking in Manhattan is never "crazy", per se, but it can be extraordinarily unlikely.
   206. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 06, 2017 at 09:10 AM (#5469576)
I'm driving in and hoping to score a "free" parking space on Central Park West or equivalent. Crazy?

Unlikely, though not crazy. You should also check out nyc.bestparking.com ahead of time to scope a few garages that won't rip your face off.

Looks like there are a couple of places in the West 90's where you can park for $20-25.
   207. Bote Man Posted: June 06, 2017 at 09:28 AM (#5469585)
Driving: no problem.

Parking: need local knowledge. I read some comments (on Yelp maybe?) about the worthwhileness of finding free parking on the street, which I thought was preposterous given that there's a whole Seinfeld episode about it. Then I scoped out Google Street View and saw real images of real, empty parking spaces on C.P.W. and figured it's worth a try before resorting to a parking garage.

If worse comes to worst I can go online and snag a space and drive to it 5 minutes later, but the thrill of parking for free in Manhattan has a certain appeal. Saturday morning, people running errands leaving spaces...wish me luck!

There's an added benefit to driving: if I can score a decent bat between now and then I will bring it with me.
   208. villageidiom Posted: June 06, 2017 at 09:54 AM (#5469600)
vi, I'm surprised they couldn't tell over the phone that you're not shooty. You're much taller.
Isn't everyone?

I'm driving in and hoping to score a "free" parking space on Central Park West or equivalent. Crazy?
It can be done, but you might be better off just planning to pay for parking.

A couple of years ago I parked at this lot. That year we went after the game to a bar around 81st & Amsterdam, so this location was pretty convenient.

If you're thinking about crashing SABR afterward, a quick look on parkwhiz shows the garage at 240 E. 41st is charging $14 for up to 12 hours that day. It'd be $20 after subway fare back & forth to the field, but that's still a pretty good deal for parking in Manhattan. (Note: my standards for what's reasonable for city parking is based on Boston, where $14 is a pretty good price for the first hour of parking.)
   209. catomi01 Posted: June 06, 2017 at 11:13 AM (#5469666)
If worse comes to worst I can go online and snag a space and drive to it 5 minutes later, but the thrill of parking for free in Manhattan has a certain appeal. Saturday morning, people running errands leaving spaces...wish me luck!


Seinfeld the Sequel - "How Bote Man Ended up Missing the BBTF Softball Game"
   210. reech Posted: June 06, 2017 at 12:02 PM (#5469737)
On a non baseball related note- the night of the softball game- Reech and friend of Reech are playing a gig in Brooklyn 'round 11 pm- provided our broken bodies can get on stage.
   211. Bote Man Posted: June 06, 2017 at 01:45 PM (#5469857)
Reech and friend of Reech are playing a gig in Brooklyn 'round 11 pm- provided our broken bodies can get on stage.

Lemme guess: your band is named "Reech On Error"?
   212. Hans Van Slooten Posted: June 06, 2017 at 02:32 PM (#5469923)
My plan is to be there.
   213. Sean Forman Posted: June 06, 2017 at 02:33 PM (#5469926)
Put me down as a maybe. Depends a bit on what's counter-programming at SABR.
   214. Lassus Posted: June 06, 2017 at 02:37 PM (#5469930)
If Sean is coming, we need to actually have someone do a REAL scorecard.
   215. Howie Menckel Posted: June 06, 2017 at 03:21 PM (#5469986)
has anyone bought the bbtfsoftball-reference.com website yet?
#justsayin
   216. villageidiom Posted: June 06, 2017 at 06:04 PM (#5470151)
YES (22):
villageidiom
Scott
Chicago Joe
catomi01
Lassus
JE
Howie Menckel
snapper
Hysterical & Useless
Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim
Met Fan Charlie
Blastin
Edmundo
PASTE
AndrewJ
djordan
JoeD
reech
freeend of reech
catomi02
catomi03
Hans Van Slooten

MAYBE (6):
Bote Man
McCoy
Never Give An Inge
Karl from NY
billyshears
Sean Forman

PRE-GAME ENTERTAINMENT (3)
Steve Treder
Mike Webber
Foghorn
   217. catomi01 Posted: June 09, 2017 at 02:59 PM (#5472750)
Equipment check? We've got time still, but I'm bored at work, so figured its worth starting the ball rolling on this.

I'll bring 4-5 clinchers, 3-4 bats, and a couple of extra gloves if anyone needs. The people I'm bringing will likely have a couple of bats too. Bases - I can bring if needed, but they're a pain, so if anyone local can take that it would be good.
   218. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 10, 2017 at 08:18 PM (#5473565)
Doesn't Shooty usually bring the bases? I think we should say he has to bring them to the park before he goes to marry Ray's sister.
   219. thetailor (Brian) Posted: June 15, 2017 at 01:16 PM (#5476704)
Hey everyone! Sorry I have been so remiss in checking BBTF over the last few months. I even received an email from one of you guys (good work!).

There are some tentative plans forming up for that weekend *but* I think I am a very likely to be there for the third year in a row. I am glad to see the list looking much more robust this year than last, and to see some new (and some notorious) names!

Brian
   220. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 15, 2017 at 03:20 PM (#5476876)
I'm driving in

I'm coming by boat. True story.
   221. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 15, 2017 at 05:01 PM (#5476966)
I'm coming by boat. True story.


Not even bote man has done that!
   222. villageidiom Posted: June 15, 2017 at 05:23 PM (#5476982)
Not even bote man has done that!

That's a lot better than the sophomoric seaman joke I'd expected to see as a response.
   223. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 15, 2017 at 05:39 PM (#5476991)
Brian! Glad to see you're still around. Especially glad you're likely to make it to the game.

OMG, 16 days, that's coming up on us fast. Better start getting in shape!
   224. Howie Menckel Posted: June 18, 2017 at 03:45 PM (#5478322)
I took a 75-minute walk today about 25 miles from our July 1 softball site, and if it's this humid again on that day, I'll have to dress in sponges to avoid flooding the field with buckets of perspiration.

#Irishguy

forecasts more than 5 days out are pretty shaky, but forecast for the area has temps around 75 to 80 in the week leading up and day of game. chances of showers, but no days forecast at more than 50 percent on that

#PLAYBALL
   225. Bote Man Posted: June 18, 2017 at 07:23 PM (#5478388)
A confident forecast of rain would be one of the things that would keep me from traveling 1400 miles for this game. I'll keep a weather eye out.
   226. McCoy Posted: June 18, 2017 at 08:08 PM (#5478405)
I'm definitely not a maybe. Traveling to Miami.
   227. Lassus Posted: June 19, 2017 at 07:57 AM (#5478480)
Traveling to Miami.

Me too!

Only, this week.


A confident forecast of rain would be one of the things that would keep me from traveling 1400 miles for this game. I'll keep a weather eye out.

The weather.com 10-day shows scattered thunderstorms, 60% chance of precipitation, and a 6 mph wind out of the west. Unsure if that helps or hurts the HRs.
   228. Howie Menckel Posted: June 19, 2017 at 09:54 AM (#5478503)
am I on 'ignore'?
:)
   229. Rickey! No. You move. Posted: June 19, 2017 at 10:28 AM (#5478520)
I probably won't, but I may show up just to terrify people.
   230. villageidiom Posted: June 19, 2017 at 11:30 AM (#5478570)
YES (23):
villageidiom
Scott
Chicago Joe
catomi01
Lassus
JE
Howie Menckel
snapper
Hysterical & Useless
Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim
Met Fan Charlie
Blastin
Edmundo
PASTE
AndrewJ
djordan
JoeD
reech
freeend of reech
catomi02
catomi03
Hans Van Slooten
thetailor

MAYBE (5):
Bote Man
McCoy
Never Give An Inge
Karl from NY
billyshears
Sean Forman

PRE-GAME ENTERTAINMENT (3)
Steve Treder
Mike Webber
Foghorn
   231. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 19, 2017 at 02:44 PM (#5478728)
   232. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:08 PM (#5478764)
forecasts more than 5 days out are pretty shaky,


Looking more than 3 to 5 days out you're generally going to do just as well simply looking at historical averages for the date.

A confident forecast of rain would be one of the things that would keep me from traveling 1400 miles for this game.


A forecast of rain (or even better, actual rain!) mean you get to do the postgame without the hassle of actually having to play.
   233. villageidiom Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:46 PM (#5478791)
I failed to make this a feature
I just upgraded it for you. It's on the site's front page now.
   234. thetailor (Brian) Posted: June 19, 2017 at 08:07 PM (#5478908)
Since we have plenty of people signed up, I am hoping we can play several games! I know we got rained out last time, but it was not nearly enough softball for me.

Also, I plan on bringing something to drink to the field this year. NYC has really relaxed the rules on that, and they weren't really enforced before either. Anybody with me?
   235. Howie Menckel Posted: June 19, 2017 at 09:12 PM (#5478934)

I upgraded my frame this year - in subsequent years I will seek to restore throwing, running (ok jogging) and even fielding, one year at a time. I will be content to be DH or even PH this year. again. not bringing a glove, as per tradition.

#wecanrebuildhim
   236. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 19, 2017 at 10:10 PM (#5478952)
I'm actually going to throw the ball around tomorrow with a neighbor. He's 81, but I have to start somewhere.
   237. Howie Menckel Posted: June 19, 2017 at 10:30 PM (#5478960)
Edmundo should be a strong lure for fence-sitters on attending, whether he pitches again or not.....

I count at least 11 others in that category, full disclosure, and see zero "run, don't just walk away" names

;)

I have even met Rickey! at this game a couple of years ago, and he is a fun guy to have a beer with

also anyone who just wants to show up and mostly play the 0th warmup inning or the multiple post-game extra innings at a tavern are welcome as well. it's not like it's a hardcore softball tryout for a pennant-minded team or something. it's a BBTF outing. those on the sidelines also serve.

and for those outside their comfort zone who still are hesitant, I say go for it. and I say you'll be glad you did. and this is boring, unscary Howie saying this. if you cite this post as the only reason you showed up, I'll buy you a pint or a smoothie
:)
   238. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 20, 2017 at 10:59 AM (#5479085)
a strong lure for fence-sitters


Seriously, anybody who's in the "well, maybe" camp, or even the "I don't think so" battalion, Howie at the post-game is worth the price of admission all on his own. Multiple other attendees will vouch for this.

Brian, remember, game time is 10:30 AM. And there will be blunt instruments ready to hand. Think of the children!

   239. villageidiom Posted: June 21, 2017 at 11:20 PM (#5480394)
10-day forecast: partly cloudy, 79°F.
   240. reech Posted: June 22, 2017 at 11:01 AM (#5480580)
Unfortunately Reech (and friend of Reech) gotta cancel. I tore my rotator cuff (at least I got a cool baseball injury)-
Carry on boys.
   241. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 22, 2017 at 03:45 PM (#5480930)
gotta cancel. I tore my rotator cuff


C'mon man, you got two arms, don't you? You don't need both to lift a glass of beer.
   242. villageidiom Posted: June 22, 2017 at 04:21 PM (#5480967)
YES (21):
villageidiom
Scott
Chicago Joe
catomi01
Lassus
JE
Howie Menckel
snapper
Hysterical & Useless
Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim
Met Fan Charlie
Blastin
Edmundo
PASTE
AndrewJ
djordan
JoeD
reech
freeend of reech

catomi02
catomi03
Hans Van Slooten
thetailor

MAYBE (5):
Bote Man
Never Give An Inge
Karl from NY
billyshears
Sean Forman

PRE-GAME ENTERTAINMENT (3)
Steve Treder
Mike Webber
Foghorn
   243. villageidiom Posted: June 22, 2017 at 04:23 PM (#5480969)
9-day forecast: mostly cloudy, 82°F.
   244. catomi01 Posted: June 22, 2017 at 04:31 PM (#5480983)
catomi02 has cancelled, but has been replaced by a newer and better catomi02...so no real change or need to type this besides being bored at work.
   245. Bote Man Posted: June 22, 2017 at 05:13 PM (#5481017)
Those of you cancelling are PUSSIES! If you wanna do sumpin about it you gotta come to the game. I'll be there.
   246. villageidiom Posted: June 23, 2017 at 12:03 PM (#5481616)
8-day forecast: partly cloudy, 85°F.
   247. Karl from NY Posted: June 23, 2017 at 01:52 PM (#5481744)
You can bump me to the Yes category, pretty sure I'll have no conflicts. Unless some freak injury befalls me in the next week.
   248. villageidiom Posted: June 23, 2017 at 03:35 PM (#5481848)
YES (23):
villageidiom
Scott
Chicago Joe
catomi01
Lassus
JE
Howie Menckel
snapper
Hysterical & Useless
Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim
Met Fan Charlie
Blastin
Edmundo
PASTE
AndrewJ
djordan
JoeD
catomi02
catomi03
Hans Van Slooten
thetailor
Bote Man
Karl from NY


MAYBE (3):
Never Give An Inge
billyshears
Sean Forman

PRE-GAME ENTERTAINMENT (3)
Steve Treder
Mike Webber
Foghorn
   249. villageidiom Posted: June 23, 2017 at 03:40 PM (#5481851)
I went to the batting cage the other day. 15 pitches.

1: HUGE swing and miss.

2-3: grounders.

4: popup.

5-9: line drives.

10: swing and miss. I was distracted.

11: line drive.

Switched to lefty.

12: popup. Pitch came in while I was switching to lefty.

13-14: line drives.

15: grounder.

Those were my first swings in a couple of years, as I was stranded in Dallas for BTF Softball last year, and my only other annual softball game was rained out.
   250. Bote Man Posted: June 23, 2017 at 06:32 PM (#5481939)
I'm a YES?? Oh, I guess I am. Alrighty then!

#249 - I got one of them thar JUGS soft toss machines that pops the ball 2-3 feet up in the air so you can whack it. It's nothing like real pitching, but at least you can focus your hand-eye coordination. I still have trouble from time to time making solid contact. My problem now is that I don't have a bat since I was borrowing from my coach's quiver during the Spring season, but that's over and I just haven't acquired a bat yet.

I'm hoping I'm on Jason's team because he is softball's answer to Daniel Murphy (too soon??).
   251. thetailor (Brian) Posted: June 23, 2017 at 06:57 PM (#5481953)
GUYS IT IS ALMOST TIME!!

By the way, I just looked at the SABR lineup for the first time and it is damn impressive. How many of you guys will be going? Heck, how many of you guys are going to be presenting?

https://sabr.org/convention/sabr47-schedule

I'm really interested in doing the Mets game on Friday, too. The access SABR is getting there is awesome. Also, just so you guys don't think I am a complete plebe, I wrote these in the last year:

https://goodfundies.com/why-michael-conforto-slumps-35147da48b93
http://www.hardballtimes.com/38560-2/

(I forgot how to make URLs clickable)
   252. villageidiom Posted: June 23, 2017 at 09:27 PM (#5482009)
I'm a YES?? Oh, I guess I am. Alrighty then!


DUDE YOU JUST SAID "I'LL BE THERE" YESTERDAY.
   253. Mike Webber Posted: June 23, 2017 at 10:14 PM (#5482027)
Saturday, July 1

10:30 a.m.-11:30 a.m. (Empire State Ballroom)
Research Committee Meeting: Baseball Cards
Mark Armour, co-chair (markarmour04@gmail.com)
Chris Dial, co-chair (pfeiffer86@gmail.com)
* Guest speaker: Keith Olbermann, a longtime SABR member, author, and award-winning sports and political commentator

11:30 a.m.-11:55 a.m. (Empire State Ballroom)
RP23: Where Have You Gone, Master Melvin? A Re-Appreciation of Mel Ott
Steve Treder

So Foghorn might be really iffy, plus he has a donor's breakfast to help host from 8 to 9.
   254. Lassus Posted: June 23, 2017 at 11:02 PM (#5482047)
Attendance seems up, so care may be down, but my attendance is on life support. My place to stay just bagged out, trying to come up with backup plan I can actually afford.
   255. Bote Man Posted: June 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM (#5482078)
DUDE YOU JUST SAID "I'LL BE THERE" YESTERDAY.

Well, yeah, but that was part of the whole thing where I taunted the quitters into showing up after all to beat me up.


As for the SABR convention, so much for scheduling it the same weekend so that attendees of both would be accommodated. :-(
   256. Howie Menckel Posted: June 24, 2017 at 12:00 AM (#5482087)
the few cool kids will sneak out and play softball, or participate in the extra innings....
   257. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 24, 2017 at 05:11 AM (#5482121)
If the game is going to conflict with Olbermann, I'm going to have issues.
   258. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 24, 2017 at 06:39 AM (#5482123)

I should be able to come for the softball, but don't think I'll be able to stay for the drinks this year.
   259. Chicago Joe Posted: June 24, 2017 at 09:17 AM (#5482136)
Lassus: my airbnb in beautiful Bushwick comes at the affordable price of $0. The room is private (a whole floor, ok, a basement) where there's a sleepable couch you can enjoy. Would have no problem if you wanted to crash.
   260. Greg K Posted: June 24, 2017 at 09:39 AM (#5482139)
Where Have You Gone, Master Melvin?

Is it wrong to be disappointed that this isn't about Melvin Mora?
   261. Howie Menckel Posted: June 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM (#5482145)
"I should be able to come for the softball, but don't think I'll be able to stay for the drinks this year."

I think you have this backwards, no?
   262. Lassus Posted: June 24, 2017 at 11:09 AM (#5482148)
Joe of Chicago: thanks, on options list. Email through the site work to contact you?
   263. Chicago Joe Posted: June 24, 2017 at 12:01 PM (#5482165)
Send a test to see if it does-sitemail may not work, though my email address for this is valid.
   264. villageidiom Posted: June 24, 2017 at 04:29 PM (#5482230)
7-day forecast: 40% chance of rain, 86°F.
   265. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 24, 2017 at 06:03 PM (#5482249)
Lassus, when are you coming into town? Since I'm hoping to do the pre-game @ 9 AM I will probably be in on Friday and staying in Brooklyn (Flatbush) for the night. Can offer you a room. Can't beat CJ's price (no, I won't pay you to stay in our apt) but can definitely equal it.

Due to weekend track work on the Brighton line (Q train), there will be no local service to Manhattan, so have to walk 8-10 minutes south to get the express. Trip to Central Park is about an hour.

Email through site works fine.
   266. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 24, 2017 at 06:12 PM (#5482253)
Oh, will we be doing east side or west side for the post-game festivities? Last two years we've gone west. East side is better for those using MetroNorth (hint hint).
   267. Howie Menckel Posted: June 24, 2017 at 07:22 PM (#5482271)
I'm a "westerner" who is perfectly willing to go east this year.

heck, for me, the longer I get to walk later, the better!

#wecanrebuildhim
   268. McCoy Posted: June 24, 2017 at 07:23 PM (#5482272)
37th and 8th ave for $109 a night before taxes Friday through Sunday. Other various spots in Manhattan for 120 a night.
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