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Saturday, April 19, 2014

Cesar Cabral tossed from game, from team

Cesar buried! Unfair shake! Speared in the back! I need a cocktail!

It was a scene straight out of the Steinbrenner Yankees playbook, circa the late 1900s: a young reliever, having suffered through a horrendous outing, suffering one more indignity.

The axe.

That is what fell on Cesar Cabral just moments after the domed roof of Tropicana Field fell in on him Friday night. Less than a half-hour after Cabral had been tossed from the game by home plate umpire Joe West after hitting his third batter in the eighth inning, he was tossed from the Yankees roster.

Just moments after a worried Cabral told ESPNDeportes’ Marly Rivera, “I hope that what I’ve done so far [one scoreless inning in three appearances] merits a place on this team,” pitching coach Larry Rothschild summoned him into the manager’s office. There, Joe Girardi broke the news that the Yankees were designating him for assignment, meaning they have 10 days to trade or release him.

“I can’t believe this,” Cabral said, “but I guess this is baseball.”

It is when you pitch the way Cabral did, allowing singles to the first two batters he faced, hitting Evan Longoria and James Loney in succession, allowing a two-run single to Wil Myers and finally plunking Logan Forsythe, which prompted West to eject him.

“Obviously we’re not trying to hit anyone there and I feel bad that we hit three people,” said Girardi, who was angered that West ran Cabral without a warning. “Obviously, he had no command.”

Cabral said West gave no reason for the ejection. “They know I don’t want to hit anybody,” Cabral said. “I was surprised because [West] don’t tell me nothing.”

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   1. Rob_Wood Posted: April 19, 2014 at 09:05 AM (#4689036)

Mitch Williams told of the time he hit 3 straight Orioles one night in 1986. Earl Weaver argued that Mitch should be ejected from the game, and after the game said Mitch was more dangerous than cigarettes!

I looked it up and Mitch did hit 3 Orioles that night, but they were in different innings and not consecutively. But Weaver's comment showed his deep insight again.
   2. haggard Posted: April 19, 2014 at 10:07 AM (#4689046)
It reminded me of when the Red Sox tried out long- time reliever Mike Fornieles as a starter http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CLE/CLE196206202.shtml.
   3. Captain Supporter Posted: April 19, 2014 at 10:48 AM (#4689052)
Cowboy Joe West always makes sure that its all about him.
   4. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: April 19, 2014 at 11:06 AM (#4689056)
West was kind of a jerk about it,* but it really had to be done. It was obvious that Cabral wasn't trying to hit anybody, but it was also obvious that he would have hit a few more if he'd stayed in the game. Since Girardi wan't interested in using any more pitchers, it fell to West to put the kid out of his misery.

Of course, Girardi could have prevented the entire situation by using someone other than Phelps and Warren earlier in the game and not blowing the lead in the first place.

*Yeah, I know, West is kind of a jerk about everything.
   5. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 19, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4689068)
Bruce Kison hit 3 in a Series game. Dock Ellis hit three Reds without retiring a batter.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 19, 2014 at 12:29 PM (#4689076)
and after the game said Mitch was more dangerous than cigarettes!


Earl was right. Listening to Mitch Williams on MLB Network causes brain damage.
   7. flournoy Posted: April 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4689082)
Is it generally accepted practice in professional baseball to eject a pitcher whose control is so bad that the batters' safety is in danger? I know in various Little League or men's league levels, the pitcher is automatically removed (perhaps not ejected from the game, but not allowed to pitch anymore) after a certain number of hit batsmen.
   8. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: April 19, 2014 at 12:53 PM (#4689084)
I don't think it comes up often enough for there to be a "generally accepted practice."
   9. Canker Soriano Posted: April 19, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4689087)
I remember a game from around 2004 when Kerry Wood was thrown out after hitting 3 guys. It didn't look like any of them were intentional (and I think the last guy was hit with a slow curve). But I also think the Cubs had been hit earlier in the game, and there was some question whether this was retaliation. I don't think they were all in the same inning (maybe the last 2 were).

It was pretty clear from watching him pitch that he was having control problems, and the HBP didn't look intentional. I remember Baker arguing that he shouldn't have gotten tossed, but off he went.
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 19, 2014 at 01:24 PM (#4689092)
I think Cowboy Joe made the right call here. Cabral wasn't trying to hit anyone, but he was dangerous.

Girardi is rightly going to err on the side of not torching his pen, vs. worrying about a Ray getting injured. West was the best one to intervene.
   11. flournoy Posted: April 19, 2014 at 01:25 PM (#4689093)
I don't think it comes up often enough for there to be a "generally accepted practice."


What about in the minor leagues? Aren't there enough Jason Neighborgall-esque pitchers to have an established protocol?
   12. bobm Posted: April 19, 2014 at 01:30 PM (#4689101)
From 1947 to 2014, as Reliever, sorted by greatest HBP
                                                                                                      
Rk             Player          Date  Tm Opp    Rslt  AppDec  IP H R ER BB SO HR BF HBP WP    WPA   aLI
1        Cesar Cabral    2014-04-18 NYY TBR L  5-11     8-8 0.0 3 3  3  0  0  0  6   3  1 -0.027  .101
2      Javier Vazquez    2010-09-23 NYY TBR L  3-10    7-9f 3.0 1 2  2  2  3  0 15   3  0 -0.021  .075
3         Joe Kennedy    2007-08-14 ARI FLA L  5-14     4-4 0.1 3 6  6  2  0  0  9   3  2 -0.016  .053
4        Jeff Fassero    2002-04-01 CHC CIN  L  4-5  8-9f L 1.2 1 1  1  1  1  0  9   3  0 -0.251 2.659
5       Octavio Dotel    2000-09-16 HOU PIT  W 10-9 9-9  BS 1.0 2 3  2  1  1  0  9   3  0 -0.383 3.193
6      C.J. Nitkowski    1998-08-03 HOU FLA L  3-11     7-8 1.0 1 4  4  0  2  0  7   3  0 -0.010  .153
7    Xavier Hernandez    1990-06-17 HOU CIN  L  1-7     5-7 2.2 2 2  2  1  1  1 14   3  0  0.001  .167
8       Dale Mohorcic    1989-05-08 NYY TEX L  2-13     5-8 3.1 5 4  4  2  1  0 19   3  0 -0.010  .017
9       Brad Arnsberg    1989-04-17 TEX MIL  L  1-8     6-9 3.1 4 5  5  1  2  1 18   3  1 -0.064  .601
10     Mitch Williams    1986-07-30 TEX BAL  W  5-3 7-8  BS 1.1 1 2  2  3  0  0 11   3  0 -0.315 2.840
11     Jim Willoughby    1976-06-11 BOS MIN L  4-10     5-7 1.2 1 1  1  2  0  0 11   3  0 -0.037  .292
12       Cecil Upshaw    1975-04-30 CHW TEX  L  2-8    6-8f 3.0 1 1  1  1  1  0 13   3  1 -0.007  .046
13       Mike Corkins    1973-09-13 SDP SFG  L  6-8     1-8 7.0 4 3  1  3  4  0 32   3  0 -0.194 1.606
14        Tom Dettore 1973-06-25(1) PIT MON  W  8-6     4-7 2.2 5 4  2  2  2  0 18   3  0 -0.206 1.633
15         Ron Willis    1970-09-14 SDP LAD L  4-12    7-8f 2.0 1 3  2  2  0  0 13   3  0 -0.001  .002
16        Pedro Ramos    1969-07-02 CIN ATL  L  4-9     2-3 1.1 1 0  0  0  1  0  8   3  0  0.039  .605
17         Bob Turley 1962-08-29(2) NYY CLE  L  5-9     6-7 2.0 1 3  1  3  1  0 14   3  0 -0.112  .534
18       Raul Sanchez 1960-05-15(1) CIN PHI L  3-14     8-8 1.0 2 4  4  2  0  0 10   3  0 -0.001  .005
19         Tom Morgan    1959-05-02 DET WSH L  3-15     4-7 3.1 3 2  2  0  4  1 15   3  0 -0.011  .045
20       Steve Ridzik    1956-07-16 NYG CIN L  4-10     4-6 1.1 3 4  4  0  0  1 10   3  0 -0.124  .544
21        John Briggs 1956-04-29(2) CHC CIN  L  4-8    7-8f 2.0 2 1  1  2  1  1 13   3  0 -0.009  .075
22     Charlie Bishop    1955-04-28 KCA NYY L  4-11     3-6 3.1 2 5  2  3  3  1 18   3  0 -0.122  .855
23       Moe Burtschy 1954-08-26(1) PHA CHW  L  1-8     2-8 6.2 8 3  3  5  2  0 34   3  1 -0.086  .240
24     Frank Fanovich 1953-06-21(2) PHA CHW  L  4-9     3-7 5.0 4 3  2  1  4  0 24   3  0 -0.143  .369
25         Karl Drews 1949-08-07(1) SLB NYY         L  2-20 2.2 8 8  8  1  1  0 20   3               0


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   13. Dan Posted: April 19, 2014 at 02:22 PM (#4689133)
So Cabral set a record for most HBP without recording an out? Looks like Kennedy had previously hit 3 while getting 1 out, but no one had done it while not even getting an out.

Seems unlikely it would've happened before 1947 with how few pitching changes were made in games then.
   14. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 19, 2014 at 02:57 PM (#4689158)
From 1947 to 2014, as Reliever, sorted by greatest HBP


Kison's trio in the 1971 Series was also in relief.
   15. Tiboreau Posted: April 19, 2014 at 03:04 PM (#4689165)
Scott Baker hit 3 batters in a row during the 1st inning of a spring training start for the Mariners this year. Went on to pitch 2 more innings, too. . . .
   16. bobm Posted: April 19, 2014 at 03:04 PM (#4689166)
Yes - I don't know why BR PI includes FL games.

From 1914 to 1946, as Reliever, sorted by greatest HBP
                                                                                  
Rk            Player          Date  Tm Opp    Rslt  IP  H  R ER BB SO HR BF HBP WP
1         Carl Doyle    1940-06-08 BRO CIN L  2-23 4.0 16 14 14  4  3  1 36   4  2
                                                                                  
2     Dick Errickson 1941-08-10(1) BSN BRO L  4-14 3.0 10 10 10  4  0  1 24   3  0
3    George Barnicle    1940-04-25 BSN NYG  L  1-9 5.0  2  3  2  2  4  0 21   3  1
4         Bobby Reis 1938-07-19(2) BSN CIN  L  2-7 6.2  6  6  6  2  3  3 31   3  0
5       Hal Kelleher    1937-05-05 PHI CHC L  4-17 3.0  3  3  3  1  1  1 14   3  0
6       Howard Ehmke    1930-04-27 PHA WSH L  6-11 6.2 12  6  6  2  2  1 35   3  0
7          Ray Boggs    1928-09-17 BSN CHC L  5-15 1.0  1  1  1  1  0  0  6   3  2
8           Ed Walsh 1928-09-03(2) CHW DET  W  7-5 5.2  3  0  0  2  0  0 25   3  1
9       Tommy Thomas    1928-08-23 CHW WSH  L  3-4 2.2  3  1  1  0  4  0 14   3  0
10      Johnny Wertz    1926-07-04 BSN NYG  W  5-4 7.2  7  1  1  4  4  0 34   3  0
11        Bill Bayne    1922-05-11 SLB WSH  W  5-3 1.1  1  0  0  1  0  0  9   3  0
12    Curt Fullerton    1922-04-28 BOS NYY L  3-10 6.2  6  3  3  2  0  1 28   3  0
13       Ed Appleton 1915-07-06(1) BRO BSN  W  3-2 5.1  2  2  2  3  2  0 23   3  0
14         Bud Davis    1915-05-27 PHA CLE  L  8-9 6.0  6  4  3  4  1  0 25   3  0
15        Earl Moore    1914-06-17 BUF IND L  8-11 0.0  2  3  3  1  0  0.     3  0
16         Ted Welch    1914-05-15 SLM BTT L  6-12 2.0  0  0  0  1  0  0      3  0


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   17. bobm Posted: April 19, 2014 at 03:07 PM (#4689171)
                                                                                             
Rk          Player       Date Series Gm#  Tm Opp    Rslt AppDec  IP H R ER BB SO HR BF HBP WP
1      Bruce Kison 1971-10-13     WS   4 PIT BAL  W  4-3 1-7  W 6.1 1 0  0  0  3  0 22   3  0
                                                                                             
2    Craig Stammen 2012-10-07   NLDS   1 WSN STL  W  3-2    6-7 1.0 2 0  0  0  1  0  8   2  0
3    Felix Heredia 2004-10-08   ALDS   3 NYY MIN  W  8-4    8-9 0.1 0 2  2  0  0  0  3   2  0
4    Dwight Gooden 2000-10-07   ALDS   4 NYY OAK L  1-11   8-9f 1.2 4 4  4  1  1  0 11   2  0
5       Steve Reed 1999-10-10   ALDS   4 CLE BOS L  7-23    4-5 1.1 7 8  8  1  1  1 14   2  0
6    Wayne Granger 1968-10-09     WS   6 STL DET L  1-13    7-8 2.0 0 0  0  1  1  0  7   2  0
7       Ed Willett 1909-10-11     WS   3 DET PIT  L  6-8    1-7 6.2 3 1  0  0  0  0 25   2  0


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   18. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: April 19, 2014 at 03:09 PM (#4689172)
Dock Ellis hit three Reds without retiring a batter.


That was absolutely on purpose, wasn't it? I thought that was a fairly famous incident in which Ellis told the press before the game that he was going to hit the first three batters.
   19. bobm Posted: April 19, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4689188)
From 1914 to 2014, (requiring IPouts=0), sorted by greatest HBP

                                                                                          
Rk              Player          Date  Tm Opp    Rslt  AppDec  IP H R ER BB SO HR BF HBP WP
1         Cesar Cabral    2014-04-18 NYY TBR L  5-11     8-8 0.0 3 3  3  0  0  0  6   3  1
2           Dock Ellis    1974-05-01 PIT CIN  L  3-5    GS-0 0.0 0 1  1  1  0  0  4   3  0
3           Earl Moore    1914-06-17 BUF IND         L  8-11 0.0 2 3  3  1  0     0   3  0
                                                                                          
4       Lendy Castillo    2012-05-11 CHC MIL  L  7-8 13-13fL 0.0 2 1  1  0  0  0  4   2  0
5          Jason Motte    2011-06-21 STL PHI L  2-10 8-8  BS 0.0 0 2  2  0  0  0  2   2  0
6         Dennys Reyes    2011-04-06 BOS CLE  L  4-8     6-6 0.0 0 3  3  1  0  0  3   2  0
7        Jason Marquis    2010-04-18 WSN MIL L  7-11 GS-0  L 0.0 4 7  7  1  0  0  7   2  0
8          Jorge Julio    2009-06-01 MIL FLA  L  4-7 6-6  BL 0.0 2 5  4  1  0  0  6   2  0
9     Alberto Castillo    2008-08-31 BAL TBR L  4-10     6-6 0.0 0 1  1  2  0  0  4   2  0
10       Carlos Marmol    2008-06-19 CHC TBR  L  3-8  7-7  L 0.0 0 4  4  2  0  0  4   2  0
11        Jamie Walker    2007-09-04 BAL TBD  W  8-4     7-7 0.0 0 1  1  0  0  0  2   2  0
12        Ryan Bukvich    2007-08-25 CHW BOS L  2-14     8-7 0.0 2 5  5  1  0  0  5   2  0
13         C.J. Wilson    2007-06-10 TEX MIL  L  6-9 6-6  BS 0.0 2 2  2  0  0  0  4   2  0
14        Damaso Marte    2005-09-07 CHW KCR  W  1-0     9-9 0.0 0 0  0  0  0  0  2   2  0
15     Hector Carrasco    2005-05-19 WSN MIL  W  3-2     7-6 0.0 0 1  1  0  0  0  2   2  0
16         Paul Wilson    2005-05-06 CIN LAD L  6-13 GS-0  L 0.0 5 8  8  1  0  2  8   2  0
17        Javier Lopez    2004-06-22 COL MIL  L  2-6  7-7  L 0.0 2 5  5  1  0  0  5   2  0
18       Brian Fuentes    2003-07-13 COL LAD  L  3-9     9-8 0.0 1 1  1  0  0  0  3   2  0
19       Brian Fuentes    2002-07-07 COL SDP  L  1-7     8-7 0.0 2 3  3  0  0  0  4   2  0
20      Ramon Martinez    2000-09-28 BOS CHW  W  7-6    GS-1 0.0 0 2  2  2  0  0  4   2  0
21      Matt Whisenant    1999-06-01 KCR TEX  L  1-3  8-8  L 0.0 0 2  2  1  0  0  3   2  0
22      Matt Whisenant    1999-05-15 KCR SEA W 11-10     8-8 0.0 1 1  1  0  0  0  3   2  0
23       Jose Paniagua    1997-09-28 MON CIN L  3-11     5-4 0.0 3 5  5  3  0  0  8   2  0
24      Matt Whisenant    1997-09-03 KCR CIN  L  3-6     8-8 0.0 0 0  0  1  0  0  3   2  0
25           Tim Scott    1997-05-14 SDP MON  L  7-9     7-7 0.0 0 1  1  0  0  0  2   2  0
Rk              Player          Date  Tm Opp    Rslt  AppDec  IP H R ER BB SO HR BF HBP WP
26          Mike James    1996-05-24 CAL BOS  W  3-1     8-7 0.0 0 0  0  0  0  0  2   2  0
27       Jim Dougherty    1995-07-09 HOU SDP  L  2-9     9-8 0.0 0 2  2  1  0  0  3   2  0
28           John Hope    1995-07-01 PIT HOU L  0-11     5-5 0.0 2 4  4  3  0  0  7   2  0
29           Joe Grahe    1994-06-07 CAL MIN  L  6-8 8-8  BS 0.0 1 1  1  0  0  0  3   2  0
30   Ravelo Manzanillo    1994-06-01 PIT SDP  L  4-6     6-6 0.0 0 0  0  0  0  0  2   2  0
31      Mitch Williams    1988-07-31 TEX DET  L  1-5     7-7 0.0 0 1  1  1  0  0  4   2  1
32            Tom Hume    1987-04-09 PHI ATL  L  7-8  10-10f 0.0 1 0  0  0  0  0  3   2  0
33         Dan Boitano    1981-09-28 NYM PHI L  4-12     4-4 0.0 2 2  2  0  0  0  4   2  0
34       Tom Burgmeier    1971-07-29 KCR DET L  9-10 9-9f BL 0.0 1 1  1  1  0  0  4   2  0
35        Marty Pattin    1968-08-09 CAL BAL  L  0-3     7-7 0.0 0 0  0  0  0  0  2   2  0
36         Jim Lonborg 1968-06-23(2) BOS CHW L  1-10 GS-1  L 0.0 0 2  2  0  0  0  2   2  0
37      Dennis Higgins    1967-05-20 CHW KCA  L  4-9  3-3  L 0.0 0 3  3  1  0  0  3   2  1
38         Dan Pfister    1964-07-10 KCA MIN  L  3-9     4-4 0.0 1 1  1  0  0  1  3   2  0
39           Terry Fox 1961-04-23(1) DET LAA  W  3-1     9-9 0.0 0 0  0  0  0  0  2   2  0
40           Dick Hyde    1957-07-06 WSH NYY L  6-10     3-3 0.0 1 0  0  0  0  0  3   2  0
41         Allyn Stout 1932-09-05(1) STL PIT          L  3-4 0.0 1 2  2  2  0  0  5   2  1
42            Guy Bush    1932-08-31 CHC NYG          W 10-9 0.0 2 4  4  1  0  0  5   2  1
43         Bobby Burke    1929-08-20 WSH CLE          W  6-2 0.0 3 2  2  0  0  0  5   2  0
44       John Milligan    1929-05-17 PHI BRO         L 13-14 0.0 1 3  3  0  0  0  3   2  0
45        Shovel Hodge    1921-09-14 CHW NYY         L  8-11 0.0 0 3  3  1  0  0  3   2  0


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   20. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: April 19, 2014 at 05:22 PM (#4689280)
That was absolutely on purpose, wasn't it? I thought that was a fairly famous incident in which Ellis told the press before the game that he was going to hit the first three batters.


From his Baseball Reliquary 1999 Election commentary:

"Perhaps Ellis’ most startling act occurred on May 1, 1974, when he tied a major league record by hitting three batters in a row. In spring training that year, Ellis sensed the Pirates had lost the aggressiveness that drove them to three straight division titles from 1970 to 1972. Furthermore, the team now seemed intimidated by Cincinnati’s "Big Red Machine." "Cincinnati will bullsh_t with us and kick our ass and laugh at us," Ellis said. "They’re the only team that talk about us like a dog." Ellis single-handedly decided to break the Pirates out of their emotional slump, announcing that "We gonna get down. We gonna do the do. I’m going to hit these motherf_ckers." True to his word, in the first inning of the first regular-season game he pitched against the Reds, Ellis hit leadoff batter Pete Rose in the ribs, then plunked Joe Morgan in the kidney, and loaded the bases by hitting Dan Driessen in the back. Tony Perez, batting cleanup, dodged a succession of Ellis’ pitches to walk and force in a run. The next hitter was Johnny Bench. "I tried to deck him twice," Ellis recalled. "I threw at his jaw, and he moved. I threw at the back of his head, and he moved." At this point, Pittsburgh manager Danny Murtaugh removed Ellis from the game. But his strategy worked: the Pirates snapped out of their lethargy to win a division title in 1974, while the Reds failed to win their division for the first time in three years."
   21. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 19, 2014 at 06:06 PM (#4689306)
I remember a game from around 2004 when Kerry Wood was thrown out after hitting 3 guys. It didn't look like any of them were intentional (and I think the last guy was hit with a slow curve). But I also think the Cubs had been hit earlier in the game, and there was some question whether this was retaliation. I don't think they were all in the same inning (maybe the last 2 were).


Hell, teammate Matt Clement had an outing against the Pirates that season where he hit THREE batters in ONE inning, and worked in a run-scoring wild pitch for good measure. In spite of that, the Cubs were poised to win when the Bucs racked up five in the bottom of the ninth, punctuated by a Rob Mackowiak walk-off grand slam. That was the first game of a double-header. In the second game, the Cubs again blew a ninth-inning lead, sending the game to extras, where Mackowiak hit a game-winning homer.
   22. Nasty Nate Posted: April 19, 2014 at 07:39 PM (#4689347)
Cabral just needed to get fired by the Yankees so he could get the Mets head of scouting job.
   23. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: April 19, 2014 at 09:23 PM (#4689394)
SoSH: Thanks for the post. Can you imagine what would happen if a pitcher did that now?

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