Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, March 07, 2013

Chad Finn: What WAR is good for

(Playing Toe WAR video may be inappropriate for some users)

The best compliment I have ever received in this business, absolutely the best, and I don’t even know what would be second, came from Bob Ryan.

He might not remember it, but what with him being a huge reason I’m in this business and that my respect for him only grew after I became fortunate enough to work with him, well, I’ll never forget. We were in our hotel bar in Vancouver during the 2010 Winter Olympics, having a few post-gold-medal hockey game beverages with a couple of other stray sports writers.

Bob of course knows everybody and everybody of course knows Bob and only a small subset of obsessed East Coast baseball fans knows me, and so as he was introducing me to a writer from a California paper, he said, “Chad writes really smart, funny stuff about baseball. He keeps me on my toes. HE KEEPS ME ON MY TOES!’‘

Let’s just say no other professional validation has really been necessary since.

I bring this up because—well, dammit, my massive ego likes telling the story. But there’s a more relevant and timely reason. You may have read Bob’s column last weekend, the one in which he railed against Wins Above Replacement as a judgment rather than an actual statistic of which “intelligent people have signed off on this utterly bogus piece of baseball idiocy.”

The piece whacked the hornet’s nest of animosity between old-school writers and those immersed in sabermetrics, spurring the usual exasperated and snarky rebuttals that occur whenever one side aggravates the other. I’m not sure how much grief Bob got for the piece, but there was some, and it would be patently unfair to mention him in the same breath as an ancient in-my-day troll like Murray Chass. When it comes to advanced metrics, he really does try to stay on his toes, which I think should give him plenty of leeway even if he does loathe a particular useful statistic. Plus, he votes for Tim Raines for the Hall of Fame, which is worth a couple more bonus points, I say.

Repoz Posted: March 07, 2013 at 02:19 PM | 3 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: sabermetrics

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Dale Sams Posted: March 07, 2013 at 02:51 PM (#4382981)
Okay Chad...but if he goes on the carpet, YOU'RE cleaning it up young man.
   2. flournoy Posted: March 07, 2013 at 08:21 PM (#4383404)
No more WAR puns. Enough.
   3. formerly dp Posted: March 07, 2013 at 08:25 PM (#4383405)
No more WAR puns. Enough.
I feel like I'm in Groundhog Day every time I see one of these articles linked.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Dock Ellis on Acid
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogDaniel Bryan's 'YES!' chant has spread to the Pirates' dugout
(71 - 2:55am, Apr 18)
Last: KT's Pot Arb

NewsblogOT: NBA Monthly Thread - April 2014
(306 - 2:50am, Apr 18)
Last: theboyqueen

NewsblogGeorge Brett, Inspiration for the Song “Royals”, Meets Lorde
(29 - 2:25am, Apr 18)
Last: vortex of dissipation

NewsblogRobothal: What a relief! A’s could use bullpen differently than other teams
(6 - 2:21am, Apr 18)
Last: theboyqueen

NewsblogOrioles launch D.C. invasion with billboard near Nationals Park
(14 - 2:10am, Apr 18)
Last: DFA

NewsblogDesign Room: Top 10 Logos in MLB History.
(15 - 2:07am, Apr 18)
Last: DFA

NewsblogGleeman: Mets minor league team is hosting “Seinfeld night”
(139 - 2:02am, Apr 18)
Last: Alex meets the threshold for granular review

NewsblogOT: The NHL is finally back thread, part 2
(137 - 1:28am, Apr 18)
Last: puck

NewsblogOMNICHATTER for April 17, 2014
(131 - 1:09am, Apr 18)
Last: Davo Dozier (Mastroianni)

NewsblogChris Resop - The Most Interesting Reliever in the World
(18 - 12:41am, Apr 18)
Last: The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott)

NewsblogEscape from Cuba: Yasiel Puig’s Untold Journey to the Dodgers
(6 - 11:58pm, Apr 17)
Last: SoSHially Unacceptable

NewsblogMLB: Offense's performance vs. Brewers favors Matheny's interpretation of stats
(6 - 10:14pm, Apr 17)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogMinuteman News Center: Giandurco: This means WAR
(68 - 9:08pm, Apr 17)
Last: zenbitz

NewsblogOTP April 2014: BurstNET Sued for Not Making Equipment Lease Payments
(1584 - 7:52pm, Apr 17)
Last: Publius Publicola

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-17-2014
(15 - 7:43pm, Apr 17)
Last: Eric J can SABER all he wants to

Demarini, Easton and TPX Baseball Bats

 

 

 

 

Page rendered in 0.1251 seconds
52 querie(s) executed