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Chet Coppock: Most Home Runs are a Waste of Time

THE HOME RUN IS THE MOST OVERRATED STATE IN BASEBALL. Do you hear me? Dingers are overrated as are most alderman and the hot dogs at Cubs Park. Mark Eugene Grace, noted slugger? turned broadcaster, and I- chatted about this for roughly three hours on a dreary Tuesday about 15 years ago.

...Home runs should be listed in two separate categories. T.M.H.R’s. Totally meaningless home runs…

...M.H.R’s. Meaningful home runs…

Repoz Posted: May 10, 2012 at 04:45 PM | 40 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. UCCF Posted: May 10, 2012 at 05:11 PM (#4128597)

Who is this nutbag?

2. Leroy Kincaid Posted: May 10, 2012 at 05:15 PM (#4128605)

Trash

3. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 10, 2012 at 05:26 PM (#4128611)

I'm not clicking on the link, but I think the internet should be listed in two separate categories:

G.B. = Garbage bloggers

N.G.B. = Not garbage bloggers

4. SouthSideRyan Posted: May 10, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4128616)

I loathe Chet Coppock

5. SouthSideRyan Posted: May 10, 2012 at 05:36 PM (#4128629)

His conclusion was him guessing that only 54% of Adam Dunn's HRs are meaningful. At worst, by his dumbass definition, it's 69%. ####, he's the worst.

6. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 10, 2012 at 05:46 PM (#4128636)

I loathe Chet Coppock

So you are the Marquette fan who did this @ a DePaul game a few years ago.

a Shiny Chet Coppock

7. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: May 10, 2012 at 05:52 PM (#4128640)

Holy crap that was a worthless article. While he's correct, that many HR's are worthless, the same is true of every baseball stat. Rennie Stennet's 7-7 games? 6 of the hits were totally worthless, as his team had a 4 run lead before he got his 2nd hit, and won 22-0. Likewise, John Candlaria's 7 innings of 3 hit, no walk shutout pitching was totally worthless, as he had a 9 run lead before he took the mound.

8. Dale Sams Posted: May 10, 2012 at 05:55 PM (#4128642)

Speaking of which...I see Baltimore's first three batters homered today. How often has that happened?

9. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 10, 2012 at 06:01 PM (#4128647)

Who is this nutbag?

3rd tier chicago-area mediot.

10. Shredder Posted: May 10, 2012 at 06:06 PM (#4128650)

THE HOME RUN IS THE MOST OVERRATED STATE IN BASEBALL.

Missouri's not really all it's cracked up to be, either.

11. SouthSideRyan Posted: May 10, 2012 at 06:07 PM (#4128653)

[6]How dare you sir?

Marquette fan...pshaw!

The weird thing is, I don't think anybody likes this guy. He doesn't exactly have a loyal following, and EVERYONE in the media seems to hate him too.

12. BillWallace Posted: May 10, 2012 at 06:14 PM (#4128658)

I am now dumber for having read that, and may god have mercy on my soul.

13. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: May 10, 2012 at 06:14 PM (#4128659)

Listen, this article sucks. But the man was totally right about the hot towel treatment.

14. Perry Posted: May 10, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4128662)

Pujols' three homers in WS game 3? All worthless -- the Cardinals already had 8 runs when he hit the first one, and the Rangers only scored 7.

15. Dock Ellis on Acid

Posted: May 10, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4128676)

Is this a pen name inspired by the character in Goonies whose abbreviated exploration inspired the kids to look for One-Eyed Willy's rich stuff?

16. Best Regards, L.M. Posted: May 10, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4128677)

Reggie Jackson's home run in the 1978 AL East Playoff Game was meaningless... when he hit it.

17. Johnny Slick Posted: May 10, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4128694)

Mark Grace was a "noted slugger"? Is this in the same sense that Manny Ramirez was a "noted outfielder"?

18. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: May 10, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4128699)

I haven't thought about Marshall Crenshaw in a looonnnggg time.

19. Swoboda is freedom Posted: May 10, 2012 at 07:41 PM (#4128713)

I haven't thought about Marshall Crenshaw in a looonnnggg time.

Someday, someway, you will think about him again.

20. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish Posted: May 10, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4128715)

Cubs Park? It hasn't been called that since 1926.

21. Downtown Bookie

Posted: May 10, 2012 at 07:48 PM (#4128720)

...Home runs should be listed in two separate categories. T.M.H.R’s. Totally meaningless home runs…

...M.H.R’s. Meaningful home runs…

H.I.A.T.T.

Hindsight Is Always Twenty/Twenty

DB

22. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)

Posted: May 10, 2012 at 07:54 PM (#4128727)

Hank Aaron had 512 career home runs in games his teams won. Barry Bonds had a mere 493 in games his team won. The home-run crown is restored!

23. ?Donde esta Dagoberto Campaneris? Posted: May 10, 2012 at 08:16 PM (#4128743)

Albert Pujols's new at-bat music.

24. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: May 10, 2012 at 08:25 PM (#4128747)

Cubs Park? It hasn't been called that since 1926.

When you take a stand against corporate names you have to be consistent.

25. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: May 10, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4128753)

Hank Aaron had 512 career home runs in games his teams won. Barry Bonds had a mere 493 in games his team won. The home-run crown is restored!

Babe Ruth had 520 in wins, not counting probably most of the 9 he had before 1918.

26. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: May 10, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4128763)

Cubs Park? It hasn't been called that since 1926.

When you take a stand against corporate names you have to be consistent.

Aren't The Cubs a corporation?

27. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: May 10, 2012 at 08:45 PM (#4128773)

I remember listening to Chet Coppock before or after White Sox games in 1983. That may have been the last time I thought about him.

28. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2012 at 09:09 PM (#4128803)

Oddly, I was thinking of Crenshaw just the other day -- granted in the "who was that guy in the 80s who..." sense.

And who rates aldermen or Wrigley hot dogs highly? Fair enough, in both cases, they are widely held in low esteem but might still be over-rated.

By the general logic, most wins are meaningless. What's the point of winning 77 games if you don't make the playoffs, all those wins are meaningless. Or if you win 105 when 94 would have been enough you've wasted everybody's time.

Let's just hope nobody points out how meaninless baseball is.

29. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)

Posted: May 10, 2012 at 09:18 PM (#4128811)

Babe Ruth had 520 in wins, not counting probably most of the 9 he had before 1918.

How dare you undermine my lazy spot-check of two players.

30. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: May 10, 2012 at 09:47 PM (#4128834)

How dare you undermine my lazy spot-check of two players.

Since I did half as much work as you did, I'm hardly in a position to criticize.

Extending the list to 15... I ran all the players from Gehrig up on the career total list:
Ruth 520+
Aaron 512
Bonds 493
Mays 458
Manny 412
A-Rod 412
Thome 411
Griffey 402
Jackson 396
Robinson 396
Schmidt 381
McGwire 381
Mantle 375
Killebrew 375
Gehrig 372

Look at that - home runs hit for the Yankees really do count more!

31. Randy Jones

Posted: May 10, 2012 at 09:53 PM (#4128845)

A-Rod 412

This is clearly incorrect. Unclutch-Rod only hits HR's in garbage time and so this should obviously be 0.

32. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 10, 2012 at 10:35 PM (#4128903)

All 412 were with his team already five runs ahead.

33. bobm Posted: May 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM (#4128911)

[30] From B-R PI
From 1918 to 2012, Team Won, (requiring HR>=1), sorted by greatest number of games in all seasons matching the selected criteria

                                                    
Rk             Player        #Matching   PA   AB  HR
1          Hank Aaron   461 Ind. Games 2089 1836 512
                                                    
2           Babe Ruth   460 Ind. Games 2186 1748 520
                                                    
3         Barry Bonds   437 Ind. Games 1975 1560 493
                                                    
4         Willie Mays   407 Ind. Games 1836 1630 458
                                                    
5           Jim Thome   374 Ind. Games 1665 1384 411
                                                    
6       Manny Ramirez   369 Ind. Games 1653 1413 412
                                                    
7      Alex Rodriguez   366 Ind. Games 1726 1511 412
                                                    
8      Reggie Jackson   363 Ind. Games 1593 1398 396
                                                    
9         Ken Griffey   358 Ind. Games 1643 1431 402
                                                    
10     Frank Robinson   350 Ind. Games 1576 1347 396
                                                    
11       Mike Schmidt   340 Ind. Games 1524 1284 381
                                                    
12      Mickey Mantle   336 Ind. Games 1508 1257 375
12   Harmon Killebrew   336 Ind. Games 1470 1223 375
                                                    
14         Lou Gehrig   333 Ind. Games 1567 1315 372
                                                    
15       Mark McGwire   327 Ind. Games 1455 1190 381
                                                    
16       Ted Williams   321 Ind. Games 1510 1190 353
16        Jimmie Foxx   321 Ind. Games 1497 1238 362
                                                    
18    Rafael Palmeiro   320 Ind. Games 1468 1263 349
                                                    
19       Eddie Murray   318 Ind. Games 1427 1265 344
                                                    
20         Sammy Sosa   317 Ind. Games 1447 1289 365
                                                    
21      Eddie Mathews   314 Ind. Games 1428 1214 350
                                                    
22     Gary Sheffield   313 Ind. Games 1422 1196 343
                                                    
23    Willie Stargell   312 Ind. Games 1366 1192 342
                                                    
24     Willie McCovey   307 Ind. Games 1273 1092 346
                                                    
25       Frank Thomas   300 Ind. Games 1386 1142 323

34. calhounite Posted: May 10, 2012 at 10:51 PM (#4128921)

Agreed.

The hitter could do the rumba on homeplate (to symbolize touching all four bases) and all baserunners could head straight to the dugout.

35. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 11, 2012 at 12:24 AM (#4128961)

Reggie Jackson's home run in the 1978 AL East Playoff Game was meaningless... when he hit it.

Great quote associated with that HR. Reggie said, "It was an insurance run, so I hit it to the Prudential building."

36. Poster Nutbag Posted: May 11, 2012 at 03:56 AM (#4129003)

Who is this nutbag?

.....not me!

37. God Posted: May 11, 2012 at 07:58 AM (#4129022)

You know, I must have seen The Goonies 15 times when I was a kid but not until this very moment, when I saw it in print upthread, did I finally get the joke behind One-Eyed Willy's name.

38. Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) Posted: May 11, 2012 at 09:35 AM (#4129071)

THE HOME RUN IS THE MOST OVERRATED STATE IN BASEBALL.

...MR. PRESIDENT.

39. boteman Posted: May 11, 2012 at 09:46 AM (#4129084)

TFA is a bunch of Coppockpoppycock!

40. Charles S., annoyingly insightful Posted: May 11, 2012 at 09:54 AM (#4129088)

Chet Coppock? What a name from the past. Who knew he was stil alive?

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