Because the thought of Brattain being my mother is an idea too bitter to contemplate.

What, you don't wish to nurse on my pulsating pecs?

Go to your room before momma spank.

Best Regards

John

Wile searching for some Ross CW posts, I came across this page which may explain some trolling on the Neyer Board circa October of 2001.

And I do think they are performance enhancing. That isn't the issue wrt my position on amps.

Its the magnitude and the manifestation of the performance enhancement that I don't know. I can't quantify how many HR's steroids will provide you, but I'm relatively sure its enough to make an impact.

I haven't read any of the information you say I won't acknowledge, so I can't tell you how many SBs or whatever the amps will provide you.

Either way, its not that point is not something that I am vested in. You can asterisk amphetamine users and steroid users for all I care.

Fair enough. I take it back.

Within limits, I acknowledge your points wrt distribution. We'll follow up when it's more germane to the thread.

See, I'm confused as he11. I have read two things regarding distribution. In one they are dispensed by the team. In another Dial has told me about seperate coffee pots.

Separate water coolers for the early 1970's SF Giants according to Jim Willoughby. Red Juice is for veterans only.

Are you going to lambast me for granting him a little point.

If that is what I was doing, that was not my intent. I may have misunderstood.

I would not, however, have necessarily granted him even that point.

I largely agree with your uber-position -- assuming I am stating it right -- that suggesting that Hundley should lose child custody based on the limited facts presented is an overreaction. Even EE has conceded (I believe) that his initial statement was over the top.

Vlad, disagreeing, has asserted, as near as I can tell (a) that a single incident of driving under the influence with (or without?) the kids in the car this nature is sufficient to justify immediate loss of custody and (b) that we know enough from the article to judge this situation. He has crawled way, way out on a branch in an attempt to support his position. Pretty much the whole BTF groupthink gang has gotten together to saw it off behind him.

In responding to him, it seemed to me -- and I may be wrong -- that you have hypothesized as well as to Mr. Hundley. If I misread, I apologize.

And then there was RossCWXYZ...

The original backlasher, so to speak. :-)

Hey, Backlasher. Did you post as Irritated in this thread?

Wile searching for some Ross CW posts, I came across this page which may explain some trolling on the Neyer Board circa October of 2001.


We knew about it at the time. Those guys were not even interesting trolls.

Hey, Backlasher. Did you post as Irritated in this thread?

I think so. That sounds like me, and its pretty distinctively sounding like me. IIRC, that was pretty close to when backlasher was born. I think I was dipping my toe in the water at that point. It was Pre-Backlasher v.0.2 or something.

Oh Jeez - I hope this isn't naturally evolving into a steroid thread.

Really, the thing that strikes me as biggest in Backlasher's reaction is his (apparent) distaste for Bonds + indifference towards Mays.

I'm intrigued by the aluminum siding discussion, Srul.

Yes, but not for the reasons athletes are taking them.

OTOH, amphetamines can be prescribed legitimately for the reasons athletes are taking them.

That is a significant difference, Mark. It may make it easier to abuse amphetamines but nevertheless, that is a real distinction.

kevin, I don't agree, but we'll take it up in the next steroid thread. That could be tomorrow if the internet rumors are true.

That sounds like me, and its pretty distinctively sounding like me.

The reactions were pretty typical, too:

"Irritated: Hemorrhoids can be treated these days.


"Posted by Irritated, you're a moron . . .

Comprehension is a marvelous thing, you twit."

I'm intrigued by the aluminum siding discussion, Srul.

I must have missed that one. Maybe Pengy remembers it.

"Irritated: Hemorrhoids can be treated these days.

That was by JC in DC, IIRC.

Wile searching for some Ross CW posts, I came across this page which may explain some trolling on the Neyer Board circa October of 2001.

Oh, I remember that. Oh the good ol' days. . . . .

Re: RossCW. I never interacted with him here. Not a single time. In the 2001-2 off-season I went around and around with RossCW for months on Voros stuff.

I don't mind his opinions on the matter, and was always unfailingly polite, but what I did mind is that he consistently, persistently, and continually misstated my position.

I told him about, oh, a good dozen times that I didn't think pitchers had no impact on the ball in play, yet he kept saying that. At first I thought I wasn't making myself clear, then that I should make my points more obvious, then I gave him the benefit of the doubt, then I got annoyed . . . When you tell someone that many times that you don't think X is true and he refuses to acknowledge that, you lose any interest in interacting with him.

I didn't talk to him here at all, but I did make a meta-comment about him. In the MLE thread where he made his triumphent primer debut I posted as the Rob Neyer Message Board and told people to enter debates with RossCW at their own risk.

I thought the crap he took here was over the top (especially the RossCWXYZ stuff) but I don't mourn his loss.

Really, the thing that strikes me as biggest in Backlasher's reaction is his (apparent) distaste for Bonds + indifference towards Mays.

Wow. I don't recall a single post I have ever made regarding Mays.

The reactions were pretty typical, too:


That's a pretty good exemplary thread. Ross was actually making a cogent argument.

Ross was actually making a cogent argument.

So was I... boy, those were the days.

At first I thought I wasn't making myself clear, then that I should make my points more obvious, then I gave him the benefit of the doubt, then I got annoyed .

That's how I feel with the whole camp of lessers, including, but not limited to Vlad.

That was by JC in DC, IIRC.

Which is actually pretty illustrative if you want to trace the posting career of JC. Or watch the evolution or devolution of 2Alous. No matter how hard you try, you could not impose any culpability on me for any reaction by that guy. But after being called an idiot so many times, its just time to give a little back. And I have some skills in that area.

What rumors?

Take a look at the Red Reporter thread.

Take a look at the Red Reporter thread.

Let's just talk about steroids here. I've already go tme feet up.

If they announce Clemens, it will make Palmeiro's announcement look like Alex Sanchez.

And I have some skills in that area.

Oh, you're an idiot.

Which is actually pretty illustrative if you want to trace the posting career of JC. Or watch the evolution or devolution of 2Alous. No matter how hard you try, you could not impose any culpability on me for any reaction by that guy. But after being called an idiot so many times, its just time to give a little back.

I'm not sure what this means wrt to JC. All I really know about 2Alous is he hasn't been around lately and pthat he posted one of the sickest things that I ever heard of in the Lounge. I'd see him on epic threads, but he seemed to be a free agent of sorts, not particularly on one side of the argument or the other, but I haven't memorized any of his posts.

he posted one of the sickest things that I ever heard of in the Lounge

Okay, now you have piqued my curiosity.

one of the sickest things that I ever heard of in the Lounge

I missed that one. Got a link.

Decanting is pretty sick.

I tried finding that baserunning thread where Nieporent and I and everyone else were debating RossCW on the speed thing, but neither The Beast nor The Google were any help.

I don't get The Beast at all. I searched for myself, and got no results. I know I've posted here, so that really baffled me.

I don't get The Beast at all. I searched for myself, and got no results. I know I've posted here, so that really baffled me.

Did you select "Titles, Entries, and Comments"?

I did indeed.

Decanting is pretty sick.

The Louisville Plugger is sicker. I think that it was from a April Fool's Day Savage Love column.

Wow. I don't recall a single post I have ever made regarding Mays.

Conclusively demonstrating that you are indifferent to him, otherwise you would have said something about him at some point.

The Louisville Plugger is sicker. I think that it was from a April Fool's Day Savage Love column.

I haven't read Savage Love since. That was the final straw.

Wile searching for some Ross CW posts, I came across this page which may explain some trolling on the Neyer Board circa October of 2001.

We knew about that at the time. John M actually got pretty involved in the Board for a while and made some good posts. No doubt he started out as a troll, but that didn't last too long IIRC.

Ross was really my nemesis on the Neyer Board - especially with respect to the DIPS debates. I will admit that those arguments were not always my best moments--Ross tended to bring out the worst in people. When he showed up here, Chris J and I were both quick to warn people to stay away. Alas, I didn't take my own advice.

We knew about that at the time. John M actually got pretty involved in the Board for a while and made some good posts. No doubt he started out as a troll, but that didn't last too long IIRC.

BTW, I wasn't that John M. In fact, I never posted on the Neyer Board.

he posted one of the sickest things that I ever heard of in the Lounge
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Okay, now you have piqued my curiosity.
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I missed that one. Got a link.

I remember that one. He posted a link to a website with instructions on how to kill a cat by microwaving it. Complete with pictures.

A tasteless joke, but relatively harmless. I thought people overreacted to it. As I recall, he immediately regretted posting it and requested that an admin (not me, I forget who) remove his post, so I don't think you'll find it in the archives.

That was MNP, actually.

Ah, hell. All apologies for the misidentification. I'm a horrible person.

I looked around for that cat-microwaving website again, and couldn't find it. Perhaps it's been taken off the web by now.

It's just that cat-microwaving became a big running joke between MNP and I, though I can't remember if that was the source or just another reference to it. I think I deleted the link.

Dan, BTW, the news of your employed status must have hit while I was on Primer sabbatical... what are you doing?

Eric, I work for 911. I'm responsible for making and updating their computerized maps, and mapping other things needed by the Sheriff's Office. Also, I maintain and upgrade the computer aided dispatch system. It's a great job... just doesn't pay well enough. Especially when it takes a $400 airline ticket to see your girlfriend.

Sounds cool, Dan.

Eric, I work for 911. ... It's a great job... just doesn't pay well enough. Especially when it takes a $400 airline ticket to see your girlfriend.

The real question is why you're worried about the cost of seeing Eric's girlfriend.