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Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Choosing right playoff roster can be difficult

ARLINGTON—So you want to be a playoff manager?

Your clothes still smell like stale beer and cigar smoke on Monday.

Your eyes have only now begun to stop burning from all the bubbly that flowed Saturday night in Oakland.

But coming home Monday night to the unfurling of the AL West championship banner in center field at precisely 7:04 p.m. was certainly a sweet and just reward.

It also was a frank reminder that this journey isn’t over.

In other words, Ron Washington’s job just got tougher. He now must sit down with his coaches and key members of the Rangers brain trust over the next day, maybe two, and hammer out a playoff roster to take into either Yankee Stadium or Tropicana Field next week.

“We’re going to take the best 25 we got—whoever that is,” Wash vowed.

sptaylor Posted: September 28, 2010 at 12:57 PM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: September 28, 2010 at 02:00 PM (#3650191)
Was it Felipe Alou who carried, if I'm remembering correctly, roughly 23 pitchers in 2003, forcing JT Snow to run the bases himself and famously be tagged out at home plate?
   2. Accent Shallow Posted: September 28, 2010 at 02:25 PM (#3650225)
Was it Felipe Alou who carried, if I'm remembering correctly, roughly 23 pitchers in 2003, forcing JT Snow to run the bases himself and famously be tagged out at home plate?

I can't find the playoff roster online, but they used 12 pitchers in their NLDS loss to the Marlins, and that's with Jason Schmidt pitching a CGSHO in Game 1.
   3. bobm Posted: September 28, 2010 at 02:39 PM (#3650244)
How much "choice" does a team have (K-Rod-esque games aside)?

From Wikipedia:
To be eligible for a team’s playoff roster a player must be on any of the following:
(a) the 25 man active roster,
(b) the disabled list,
(c) the bereavement list, or
(d) the suspended list
as of August 31st at midnight.

The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team's 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position (i.e. position player for position player, or pitcher for pitcher), with the approval of the commissioner of baseball.
   4. Cris E Posted: September 28, 2010 at 02:41 PM (#3650246)
Gardenhire in MN is talking about 11 pitchers and essentially letting Baker and Slowey audition for a spot over the last 15 games. So far Slowey has one good start and one bagbiter, while Baker has a short good one. There's a chance he keeps the third catcher though, so fans are kind of milling around waiting for someone to play well and sort it out for him.

This might also be a good spot to decry the attention being paid to how badly teams play after clinching. It's now backlashing in MN, to the point where a winning streak might be seen as a bad sign. "The Twins lost 11 of twelve in 91 and 6 in a row in 87, and what about the Yankees in 97?" or whatever, as though it's good to get the losing out of your system.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 28, 2010 at 03:03 PM (#3650259)
The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team's 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position (i.e. position player for position player, or pitcher for pitcher), with the approval of the commissioner of baseball.


Then why does the Commish allow for these roster shenanigans that follow the letter of the law, but violate the spirit of the law?
   6. Craig in MN Posted: September 28, 2010 at 03:12 PM (#3650267)
Then why does the Commish allow for these roster shenanigans that follow the letter of the law, but violate the spirit of the law?


I think the rule quoted isn't quite right. I think they changed it a few years ago so that there wasn't a same-position restriction. And I don't think the 60 day DL had anything to do with with before that either....any DLed player can be replaced.
   7. The Ghost, elitist lollygagging neck-stabber Posted: September 28, 2010 at 04:23 PM (#3650347)
Do I remember this right - K-Rod wasn't on the 40-man on 8/31, but he was a week later? That made it well before he replaced the DL guy, so perhaps could be argued it wasn't underhanded, but it would not be allowed under the rule as currently quoted?

The trickery the Commish should not allow is putting a guy on the 40-man solely to move him to the 60-day DL, creating an option to later replace him.
   8. ValueArbitrageur Posted: September 28, 2010 at 05:35 PM (#3650429)
Cocaine doesn't stink up your clothes like beer and cigars do.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 28, 2010 at 05:54 PM (#3650451)
Then why does the Commish allow for these roster shenanigans that follow the letter of the law, but violate the spirit of the law?

I don't understand why a team should be limited in which players from its own organization it wants to add for the playoffs?

The Sept. 1 deadline exists to prevent teams from acquiring players in trade specifically for the post-season, which makes sense; you don't want a post-season roster made up of rent-a-players.

But why restrict bringing guys up from the minors?

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