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Clemens nixes political run, citing ‘climate’

Pitching great Roger Clemens didn’t shy away from many battles in his major league career, but politics is something he’s not willing to take on.

Clemens had been encouraged to run as a Republican candidate for the seat of Texas Republican Rep. Pete Olson, who announced his retirement last month.

The 57-year-old Clemens said he was honored but had “no interest” in running for office.

“The climate in politics at this time is much more than I would want to undertake, along with my family considerations,” Clemens said in a message to Olson that was obtained by ABC News.

So, would a bid for higher office aid Clemens’ HOF chances- or hinder them?

 

QLE Posted: August 21, 2019 at 03:53 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: politics, roger clemens

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   1. Rally Posted: August 21, 2019 at 09:23 AM (#5873119)
Great, great pitcher. Maybe the best ever. But dumber than a bag of rocks. Would have thought he was well suited for politics.
   2. Zonk Rocks You Like a Sharpiecane Posted: August 21, 2019 at 09:44 AM (#5873126)
I guess sleeping with a 15 yo when you're 40 isn't quite the political impediment it used to be.
   3. John Northey Posted: August 21, 2019 at 09:58 AM (#5873130)
Wonder if he figured out the outlook for Republicans right now isn't good anywhere until things change (give it 2-4 years). You guys down there really need a new system as a 2 party system is a mess - too easy for special (rich) interests to gain control of both.
   4. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: August 21, 2019 at 10:03 AM (#5873132)
[2] lol wut?
*goes to Google*
Huh, how did the Mindy McCready story never catch on? He was 28 at the time, though, not 40. Not that that makes it ok. Also, the counterpoint to it not being a political impediment is that Roy Moore lost a senate race as a Republican in Alabama.
   5. Lest we forget Posted: August 21, 2019 at 10:05 AM (#5873133)
Many skeletons in that closet.
   6. Traderdave Posted: August 21, 2019 at 10:12 AM (#5873137)
A little Herman Cain, a little Biff Tannen, plus a dash of Sarah Palin -- it would have been fun to watch. Oh well.
   7. Zonk Rocks You Like a Sharpiecane Posted: August 21, 2019 at 10:15 AM (#5873139)
Huh, how did the Mindy McCready story never catch on? He was 28 at the time, though, not 40. Not that that makes it ok. Also, the counterpoint to it not being a political impediment is that Roy Moore lost a senate race as a Republican in Alabama.


You got me - I always considered it a far bigger deal than the PED stuff on the character clause item... not that I put it all Clemens - but I imagine HS-aged girls who have affairs with adult sports stars that refuse to leave his wife often end up spiraling into drugs and life problems culminating in suicide before they turn 40 (mea culpa on the age thing - that's what I was thinking of; McCready's untimely death).

FWIW, there were several threads here on it when the story broke back then - including this lengthy one.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 21, 2019 at 10:35 AM (#5873145)
Seems like more than a fair share of Republicans are electing not to run in Texas which should be an eye-opener.
   9. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: August 21, 2019 at 10:38 AM (#5873149)
Ultimately, he wasn't able to assemble a staff only with people whose first name begins with a "K."
   10. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: August 21, 2019 at 10:51 AM (#5873157)
Wonder if he figured out the outlook for Republicans right now isn't good anywhere until things change (give it 2-4 years). You guys down there really need a new system as a 2 party system is a mess - too easy for special (rich) interests to gain control of both.


Are you in Canada? It seems like you have 2 parties controlled by special (rich) interests plus the Quebec party that is also controlled by special (rich) interests and two other parties that split the left wing vote with the Liberals. Doesn't seem like an improvement since you still have the first-past-the-post system that means small shifts in voting percentages lead to big and unpredictable shifts in who wins the seats.
   11. TomH Posted: August 21, 2019 at 11:00 AM (#5873162)
Clemens: the best pitcher since at least Seaver, probably wince Grove, maybe the best ever. But a colossal jerk and gasbag, and likely MLB cheater.

However, let's not over-do the McCready story. Her wiki page says she admitted to a relationship that began as friends when she was 16, but not sexual until years later. So the Rocket was a major adulterer, but not a criminal in this area. But for the grace of God, if I were rich and famous at 28, I might have been stupid also.
   12. Zonk Rocks You Like a Sharpiecane Posted: August 21, 2019 at 11:01 AM (#5873164)
1. I prefer a two-party system - obvious...ummm... exceptions aside - over the long course of history, a two party system tends to slowly balance a national fulcrum over time.

2. Multi-party coalition parliaments tend to be more messy, unstable, and inefficient. Italy is probably the prime example.

3. Multi-party coalitions also fall prey to relying on increasingly fringe elements to deliver a coalition. Israel of recent vintage.

4. I do not get the thinking that more parties would lead to less "special interest control" - the opposite is more likely, since a bunch of smaller parties are more prone to be single-issue parties.... and most "special interests" are actually single-issue special interests.
   13. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 21, 2019 at 11:10 AM (#5873167)
I guess sleeping with a 15 yo when you're 40 isn't quite the political impediment it used to be.


Not if you're a Republican, anyway.
   14. Zonk Rocks You Like a Sharpiecane Posted: August 21, 2019 at 11:11 AM (#5873168)
However, let's not over-do the McCready story. Her wiki page says she admitted to a relationship that began as friends when she was 16, but not sexual until years later. So the Rocket was a major adulterer, but not a criminal in this area. But for the grace of God, if I were rich and famous at 28, I might have been stupid also.


It began when he picked her up when she was singing karaoke when she was 15. I'm not going to give Clemens bonus points for grooming her while she was soph/jr/sr in HS, but waited until she graduated to boink her (even if that's the case).

Criminal/not criminal is besides the point - and adulterer undersells it.

There's a reason adults should not be dating - or preparing to date by being friendly with - HSers.... Namely, because while it cannot be unequivocally proven it was the case here, such instances have a degree of probability leading to.... where McCready's life ultimately led - and ended.

Of course, it is entirely possible for a 15-16 yo to be very attractive to an adult. However, any adult of even the slimmest of moral compasses ought to realize why you don't go anywhere near that path: Because someone that young is still developing emotionally and it is the height of selfishness to satisfy your own libido at such substantial risk and cost to the young person.
   15. JAHV Posted: August 21, 2019 at 12:08 PM (#5873178)
Clemens is awful, and while he deserves to be in the Hall based on his baseball performance, I would not be upset if he never gets in.
   16. PreservedFish Posted: August 21, 2019 at 12:09 PM (#5873179)
I'm not going to give Clemens bonus points for grooming her while she was soph/jr/sr in HS, but waited until she graduated to boink her (even if that's the case).


That's so creepy.
   17. Avoid Running At All Times- S. Paige Posted: August 21, 2019 at 12:15 PM (#5873183)
Whoa! For a second I read the headline as if Clemens had given up the idea of public service because of his despair over the state of the climate due to global warming!
   18. Wayne Newton's pet monkey (gef, talking mongoose) Posted: August 21, 2019 at 12:15 PM (#5873184)
I guess sleeping with a 15 yo when you're 40 isn't quite the political impediment it used to be.


The live boy/dead (which she wasn't at the time ...) girl maxim continues to apply.
   19. Joe Bivens, Slack Rumped Rutabaga Head Posted: August 21, 2019 at 03:38 PM (#5873244)
Ultimately, he wasn't able to assemble a staff only with people whose first name begins with a "K."


Lazy. He has those kids, for starters.
   20. JJ1986 Posted: August 21, 2019 at 03:50 PM (#5873248)
I remember the McCready story as it relates to Clemens, but I did not know that she was dead now.
   21. SoSH U at work Posted: August 21, 2019 at 05:27 PM (#5873272)

I remember the McCready story as it relates to Clemens, but I did not know that she was dead now.



That was my reaction.
   22. Lassus Posted: August 21, 2019 at 06:00 PM (#5873275)
FWIW, there were several threads here on it when the story broke back then - including this lengthy one.

Some Brattain posts in that thread. /sad
   23. base ball chick Posted: August 22, 2019 at 12:11 AM (#5873353)
Lassus Posted: August 21, 2019 at 06:00 PM (#5873275)
FWIW, there were several threads here on it when the story broke back then - including this lengthy one.

Some Brattain posts in that thread. /sad


- over 10 years now and i STILL get all sad and teary when i read anything he wrote. i'll always miss him somethin awful
   24. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: August 22, 2019 at 09:49 PM (#5873639)
31. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: April 28, 2008 at 08:54 AM (#2761133)

Let's talk about love. Is it true? You'll never know...maybe, maybe not. But guys do it all the time, and a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do. If she lets out a scream, "All I want is everything!", maybe he'll notice her now. "What if I do?" he might be thinking. But the other side of this kiss is one in a million.


Geez...
   25. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 22, 2019 at 10:45 PM (#5873651)
So the Rocket was a major adulterer, but not a criminal in this area. But for the grace of God, if I were rich and famous at 28, I might have been stupid also.


Eh, there's stupid and then there's STUPID. If you are 28, rich and famous, banging women who are, let's say 18-40, shouldn't really be an issue; and meeting them should be even easier. Stupid rich people do stupid things like race motorbikes around tracks, buy $20K gold plated hunting rifles, take their 80 best mates out to dinner...after flying them all first class to some random European country, doing recreational drugs...these are stupid things rich people do.

STUPID things are like sleeping with minors. It's just darn creepy. Clemens is creepy.
   26. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: August 23, 2019 at 09:44 AM (#5873701)
The GOP motto: technically not rape

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