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Cleveland Indians ownership steps up, will players follow? Terry’s Talkin’—Terry Pluto | cleveland.com

Mired.

Since the All-Star break. Bradley Zimmer is batting .203 (.651 OPS).

In August, Zimmer is 0-for-22. He has been sitting out more games against lefty pitching as Francona doesn’t want to put too much pressure on the rookie.

A major difference between Frazier and Zimmer is the latter is a far superior outfielder, a huge upgrade in center field. He is 13-of-14 in stolen bases. While the 24-year-old rookie had a brain belch where he didn’t run out a pop up, he usually has impressed with his hustle.

Zimmer entered Sunday batting .257 (.745 OPS) with 8 HR and 38 RBI in 75 games. That he is struggling a bit lately should not be a surprise. Most young players have these slumps.

Jim Furtado Posted: August 15, 2017 at 08:49 AM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: August 15, 2017 at 09:31 AM (#5513430)
An MLB executive told me about 80 percent of all big leaguers make at least one return trip to the minors.


I wonder how true this is. It doesn't sound that outrageous to me I'm just curious. I think a lot will hinge on how you count. If you are including non-prospects and fungible relievers that 80% number could be low but how does that change if you just focus on guys who become regulars?
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: August 15, 2017 at 09:39 AM (#5513435)
For anyone baffled as to what "Terry's Talkin' - Terry Pluto" could possibly mean: Terry Pluto is the author of the article.
   3. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 15, 2017 at 10:11 AM (#5513455)
An MLB executive told me about 80 percent of all big leaguers make at least one return trip to the minors.


I wonder how true this is. It doesn't sound that outrageous to me I'm just curious. I think a lot will hinge on how you count. If you are including non-prospects and fungible relievers that 80% number could be low but how does that change if you just focus on guys who become regulars?


A lot of young guys will come up for the cup of coffee due as a replacement due to an injury or at the end of year call ups before they make the team for good.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 15, 2017 at 10:55 AM (#5513499)
brain belch

What, "brain fart" isn't suitable for a newsblog, but "brain belch" is OK?
   5. Spahn Insane Posted: August 15, 2017 at 11:20 AM (#5513530)
Both expressions are gross, and less accurate descriptors than "brain cramp."
   6. Walt Davis Posted: August 15, 2017 at 06:00 PM (#5513926)
Well, let's look at the Cubs ... Contreras up for good, Rizzo back to the minors after the Cubs got him from SD, Baez back to minors, Russell no, Bryant no, Schwarber yes ... not sure about Almora ... Happ not yet. Hendricks I don't think so, Edwards yes, Grimm constantly, Rondon no (rule 5 pick).

Houston: I don't think any of Altuve, Correa, Bregman, Springer ever went back down (except maybe on injury rehab). Of course they haven't exactly had long struggles. I don't think McCullers has, not sure about Keuchel.

Trout yes! (and if it can happen to Trout ...)

But those were all quite successful young players. Conforto went down during last year's struggles, Bradley has gone up and down a few times, Betts did in 2014 but neither Bogaerts nor Benintendi has been back down. Near as I can tell, Inciarte has only been down for injury rehab.

Still, those were pretty successful guys and top prospects. Aledmys Diaz went back down ... and may never be a starter again. It looks like Gyorko went down briefly (16 games in 2015) before finding himself again with the Cards. LeMahieu went down at least once. I would guess that the proportion who went back down is very high among this type of (eventually) regular player.

For the top prospect type, it's probably mainly an emergency fill-in, a potential trade showcase, a cup-of-coffee followed by service time maneuvering, etc. that lead to maybe half (WAG) going back down at least once. For the Gyorko types, it's probably close to 100%.

Team quality plays a role too. The 2016 Mets were contending and Conforto just had a month of 107/179/200 and a 33% K-rate ... down he went. The 2017 Phils might keep trotting that guy out there.

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