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Wednesday, April 03, 2013

CM Punk and his manager Paul Heyman to throw out first pitch at Friday’s Mets Game.

 
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.@CMPunk to throw out ceremonial first pitch at Citi Field on Friday. Never heard of him, but he has 1.6M followers, so maybe I should have.

First pitch on Friday, first to beat The Undertaker on Sunday.

Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: April 03, 2013 at 05:57 PM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Tripon Posted: April 03, 2013 at 08:33 PM (#4403688)
I haven't watched pro wrestling in years, but from what I understand, CM Punk is one of the most popular and genuinely good guys in Wrestling. I always remember Paul Heyman to be a dick though.
   2. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 03, 2013 at 08:39 PM (#4403707)
Roger Clemens was the last to go 20-1. Also like the Undertaker, that was after he had found a mysterious source of increased strength, but Roger's wasn't a magical urn.

P.S. Paul Heyman is one of the few reasons to watch current wrestling. Ten seconds of his silent, malevolent facial contortions are worth a year of John Cena interviews.
   3. andrewberg Posted: April 03, 2013 at 08:40 PM (#4403709)
Punk speaks his mind and does pull many punches, so some people hate him, but he is incredible at all of the things that make wrestlers good. He is the lineal descendant of Randy Savage or Roddy Piper and he is the #1 thing that keeps me interested in wrestling from week to week.
   4. Eric Ferguson Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:25 PM (#4403890)
Finally, a reason to go to a Mets game!

The fact that I think there's a non-zero chance that Punk wins Sunday is evidence of just how good and convincing Punk is.

I could have done without the Paul Bearer stuff, though.
   5. Gamingboy Posted: April 03, 2013 at 11:58 PM (#4403912)
Don't follow wrestling, but even I know that the Undertaker never loses at Wrestlemania.
   6. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: April 04, 2013 at 12:18 AM (#4403920)
Is this the wrestling where the wrestlers know in advance who wins?
   7. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: April 04, 2013 at 12:31 AM (#4403928)
I didn't catch this week's Raw, but last week's "debate" between The Rock & Cena definitely gave the impression of an upcoming Cena heel turn. I really don't see them following through though (I'm betting we get another Cena/Orton summer feud).

Still not excited for Wrestlemania. To be honest, the past two years the WWE has saved their best stuff for the summer. 2011 had Punk's pipebomb speech (and the great MitB match) and a great Christian/Orton feud. 2012 had Cena/Brock, Sheamus/Bryan, and Punk/Y2J at Extreme Rules, and Punk/Bryan at Over The Limit & Money in the Bank.
   8. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: April 04, 2013 at 12:38 AM (#4403929)
Did Scott Boras sanction Heyman to appear in this???

Wait, wha???
   9. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: April 04, 2013 at 06:37 AM (#4403954)
I bet Punk bounces one up to the plate. Yeah, I said it.
   10. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 07:59 AM (#4403968)
I bet Punk bounces one up to the plate. Yeah, I said it.


That's something I just don't get - if you know you are going to throw out the first pitch, wouldn't you make sure you can throw a baseball somewhat competently? It doesn't have to be a strike or anything even close to it, but there have been some ridiculously, almost inconceivably, bad throws. How hard is it to have someone get you a ball and throw it a dozen times to make sure you don't look like an idiot?
   11. Eric Ferguson Posted: April 04, 2013 at 10:05 AM (#4404065)
What's the heelest thing Punk could do in New York? Walk to the mound wearing a Yankees jersey? Give David Wright the GTS? Get on the mic and put over Bernie Madoff?
   12. Styles P. Deadball Posted: April 04, 2013 at 10:36 AM (#4404107)
What's the heelest thing Punk could do in New York? Walk to the mound wearing a Yankees jersey? Give David Wright the GTS? Get on the mic and put over Bernie Madoff?


Wear a Phillies jersey and put Ed Kranepool in the Anaconda Vise.
   13. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 11:08 AM (#4404142)
What's the heelest thing Punk could do in New York? Walk to the mound wearing a Yankees jersey? Give David Wright the GTS? Get on the mic and put over Bernie Madoff?


He'd have to wear a Chipper Jones jersey while cutting a pipebomb promo on Ralph Kiner. "My problem with you Ralph, is that you're not the best. You only had 49 bWAR. I am. I am, on that mound, in that field. Hell, I'm even the best on commentary."
   14. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 04, 2013 at 11:19 AM (#4404156)
I will perish from happiness if he lays down and makes snow angels on the mound.
   15. andrewberg Posted: April 04, 2013 at 11:21 AM (#4404159)
I bet Punk bounces one up to the plate. Yeah, I said it.


He got it over the plate, a little too much arc, but straight, when he threw it out at Wrigley.

Still not excited for Wrestlemania.


The problem is that all of the matches seem so obvious. Cena, Undertaker, The Shield, and HHH seem so overwhelmingly likely to win that even if there is a surprise, it will come off as a bait-and-switch. I'm still excited to watch the Punk-Undertaker match.
   16. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4404659)

The problem is that all of the matches seem so obvious. Cena, Undertaker, The Shield, and HHH seem so overwhelmingly likely to win that even if there is a surprise, it will come off as a bait-and-switch. I'm still excited to watch the Punk-Undertaker match.


Punk is being played to the ring by Living Colour at this year's Mania.

The more I think about it, the more I think Taker will be doing the job. He's said to be in rough physical shape, last year was the "end of an era" match, and this angle would give Punk an absolutely huge rub if Punk actually did the deed at Mania. The No DQ stip would seem to add to this by giving an easy out in which Punk gets his comeuppance but Taker loses the streak.

Other thoughts:

- I think/hope The Shield will go over, but I have some seriously deep doubts that WWE would let Team Super Friends lose at Mania (it'd be The Shield's... 3rd? straight victory over a Super Friends team.)

- I think HHH will go over, and I think that's pretty clear. But, there are functionally *TWO* careers on the line at Mania, and that's part of the reason why I think Taker's going down.

- I think Cena will win and I think the crowd might riot. Especially if The Rock taps to the STF.


   17. gehrig97 Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:53 PM (#4404735)
Oh I hope Punk heels it up on the first pitch. Maybe he takes the mound wearing a Chipper Jones --no, better yet, John Rocker jersey. No, better yet, Ollie Perez... he's holding the urn, of course. Heyman riles up the crowd with a recitation of every Met's failure of the last 27 years, with plenty of Yankees references.

Of course, it's all for naught if he flubs the pitch. He'd have to get one right down the middle for full heel arrogance. Then, the field lights are turned off... the bell tolls... the bullpen gates open and the Undertaker strolls towards the mound in a cloud of smoke... Heyman and Punk make a hasty retreat through the stands, urn held high.

What? It could happen.
   18. andrewberg Posted: April 04, 2013 at 06:31 PM (#4404786)
The more I think about it, the more I think Taker will be doing the job. He's said to be in rough physical shape, last year was the "end of an era" match, and this angle would give Punk an absolutely huge rub if Punk actually did the deed at Mania. The No DQ stip would seem to add to this by giving an easy out in which Punk gets his comeuppance but Taker loses the streak.


I have one problem with this line of thinking- would Vince McMahon really forego the opportunity to promote the Undertaker's last match? There hasn't been a whisper about it on air, and it seems like that would be a huge and obvious selling point.
   19. Ebessan Posted: April 04, 2013 at 07:15 PM (#4404823)
Is there a more Hunter move than booking himself into a loser leaves town match against a part-time worker as a face? God, he sucks.
   20. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 04, 2013 at 08:51 PM (#4404886)
The more I think about it, the more I think Taker will be doing the job. He's said to be in rough physical shape, last year was the "end of an era" match, and this angle would give Punk an absolutely huge rub if Punk actually did the deed at Mania. The No DQ stip would seem to add to this by giving an easy out in which Punk gets his comeuppance but Taker loses the streak.


This is never going to happen because

A) CM Punk is not going to beat the Undertaker given importance of the streak.

B) CM Punk is not going to beat the Undertaker given the storyline that led to the match (if anything, it suggests Taker dominating, Punk taking advantage of a Paul Heyman distraction for a brief period of offense, then Taker kicking out of GTS and hitting a Tombstone for a relatively easy win) and

C) The Streak is not going to end to a DQ. It would help nobody.

Is there a more Hunter move than booking himself into a loser leaves town match against a part-time worker as a face? God, he sucks.

Thing of the possibilities that a face losing a loser leaves town match gives them. Brock beats Hunter, then suddenly a new masked superstar known as Terra Ryzing (no, that's too obvious, let's go with the Greenwich Goblin) appears. Heyman goes crazy trying to prove it's HHH and puts a bounty on his mask, but he's foiled by the Goblin's associates, The Midnight Rider and Mr. America (played by stalled-out midcarders / development wrestlers). It's been long enough, they might as well recreate the "Heenan vs The Machines" feud, and Heyman could make it work.
   21. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: April 05, 2013 at 10:08 AM (#4405098)

Thing of the possibilities that a face losing a loser leaves town match gives them. Brock beats Hunter, then suddenly a new masked superstar known as Terra Ryzing (no, that's too obvious, let's go with the Greenwich Goblin) appears. Heyman goes crazy trying to prove it's HHH and puts a bounty on his mask, but he's foiled by the Goblin's associates, The Midnight Rider and Mr. America (played by stalled-out midcarders / development wrestlers). It's been long enough, they might as well recreate the "Heenan vs The Machines" feud, and Heyman could make it work.


I would absolutely love to watch this angle play out. Unfortunately, what we'd probably get is a masked version DX 3.0. However, if this meant HBK unretiring for the odd match as the Heartbreak Machine, I'd be in for it.

HHH - The Corporate Machine
Billy Gunn - The Ass Machine
Road Dogg - The Dog Machine
X-Pac: The Torn Ass Machine
HBK - The Heartbreak Machine
Chyna - The Retconned Out Machine

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Punk is apparently pretty cranky or burnt out right now based on this ESPN interview http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/20441/wrestlemania-29-cm-punk-offers-preview. I really can't tell if he's just working everyone, or if he's actually upset about the company/his direction.
   22. Eric Ferguson Posted: April 05, 2013 at 10:35 AM (#4405123)
That's actually pretty tame for a CM Punk interview. I'm sure he's tired and beaten up from working so much, but he's never been shy to say what he thinks about the company (eg, having a non-regular main eventing WM and/or holding the title).

A Brock-Punk tag team would be so cool.
   23. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: April 05, 2013 at 11:54 AM (#4405207)
Punk just recently had surgery over the winter months and took very little time off. And IIRC he hasn't been on house shows for about a month or so. I wouldn't be surprised if he took a few months over the summer to heal/recharge.

That's why I don't see Punk winning at WM. It'd be weird to have him win the biggest match of his career, then leave for a few months. I'm not saying he'll definitely be taking some time off considering his workload over the past several years he'll need a break sometime soon.
   24. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: April 06, 2013 at 11:19 AM (#4406094)
Punk throwing out the first pitch.

@ Eric Ferguson: I would love to see the Paul Heyman Guys as a tag team. It would also be a good way to save Punk's body, but I can't imagine WWE buring Lesnar's limited dates on the tag division.

@ Mark Edward: The biggest problem with Punk going over and taking time off is that in the modern WWE, everybody always comes back to a face pop. Punk's new character (probably some sort of egomaniacal living legend) wouldn't do well in that environment.

   25. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:08 PM (#4407872)
So... did anyone watch Wrestlemania?

Kinda underwhelmed by the event. The wrestling itself was fine, even Ryback/Henry. Punk/Undertaker was absolutely amazing, should've been the main event match. Rock/Cena was just frustrating. I hate the "kick out of each other's finisher as many times as possible" kind of match.

And again, all the wrestling on the undercard was fine, but the lack of any surprise was kinda lame. Team Hell No continue their pointless, drawn out title run. The Shield were of course fun to watch, but the focal point of that match was another Big Show heel turn. Ziggler loses another match, and still doesn't cash in his contract. At least Henry won.

It was funny watching HHH pose for a completely dead crowd.

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