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We tried hawd. Gave a good effuht. I'm frustrated. We're *all* frustrated.
Turns out he never had the choice, he was no longer a candidate.
Really good call. The other interesting name I saw mentioned last page was Bradley, but I think you're right, Cristobal should be the number 1 target for the program.
Man, it's surprising to see Schiano leave. He's been around forever, at least relative to the other Big East coaches. And they had a young team coming off of a 9 win season and a breakthrough recruiting class coming in. Seemed like the real culmination of what he built was a couple of years away. But I would guess NFL jobs don't come around very often. He is still leaving behind a very impressive legacy.
This makes...Doug Marrone the longest tenured Big East coach, at three years. Wow. The MAC keeps coaches around longer.
SI's Peter King has recently been touting Schiano as NFL head coaching material, which strikes most as bizarre.
The Bucs seem like the sort of team that figures, "Hey, we have no idea what we're doing, and King seems pretty connected, and if nothing else we'll likely get a tip of the cap from a big SI guy."
I'm kidding.
Wait, am I kidding?
He touted him because Belichick is always praising him. When he's not spouting that whatever happened this week is the new new thing, King regurgitates what coaches feed him. For example you would think he was a Shanahan family member the way he talked up John Beck in the off-season.
or hiring Toal from Don Bosco
If this keeps the recruits on board, that wouldn't be a bad move. IIRC, Pitt considered him the successor to Wannestadt before they canned the Stache.
"I would also be ok with promoting cignetti or hiring Toal from Don Bosco"
Is Toal willing to take a pay cut?
#jerseyjoke
Yale is located in city with the highest crime, by far, in the Ivy League. Safety can be a huge deal breaker when choosing schools and the competition for the best is off the charts when you compare applicants for the big three HYP. Yale in the 80s and 90s struggled to overcome increased crime in New Haven and on and near campus, then suddenly the rate dropped to a level that put Yale at the top, safest campus in the Ivy League. Naturally competitors charged Yale was under reporting campus crimes....sure enough there has been evidence indicating this is the case.
Add Patrick Witt's accusations to this list. The media was completely snookered and hoodwinked on this story back in November.
This didn't seem right, but holy ####, it's true.
New York has a lower crime rate than New Haven, esp Manhattan. Ditto Philly.
Why do you just sit there and shoot from the hip and make up stuff?
Why not, you do it.
You can find a crime map of Philadelphia here.
It might be regentriying now, but I don't recall it being that good I was in the area. I'm not saying it's Camden or anything.
Oh damn, they changed it, but the url still has it. "Mark Richt Goes to Jail to Meet Top Football Prospect."
I don't know if they've ever been more brutal. Bravo!
They just jumped the gun a bit, UGA kids always wait until they get into school before getting arrested.
I had a similar thought.
Considering all of the turnover at major programs over the last couple off-seasons, are there really any jobs out there that could potentially open in the next 2-3 years that could be considered better positions than the program Schiano is leaving behind?
Without even looking I don't think any NYC borough is bigger than Chicago, let alone 4 of them. Unless Chicago fell below 2.5 million. Brooklyn is around that size. But the point is NYC is a lot safer than Chicago and that is indeed true.
New Orleans and DC probably have more total murders than NYC, or at least pre-katrina.
This was another lie. Someone explained Philly.
Columbia is in a safe part of NYC. It is indeed in a higher crime area of Manhattan, but only relative to the rest of Manhattan, which is exceptionally safe.
I called you out on making up lies, I'd appreciate if you would do the same for me instead of being a lemming.
Until you moved in with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air?
#jerseyjoke
This is funny, but I wonder how much he actually makes. I know it's Bosco but it's still a high school. Maybe, what, $150,000? I know he interviewed for Fordham's job a little while back, so I'm guessing he'd jump at the chance, but it would be a huge risk to hire someone with zero experience in college ball. Had he gotten the Fordham job and done that for a couple of years, he might be perfect.
Bleh, headline from the ledger today..."Rutgers may lose Don Bosco's Darius Hamilton as Greg Schiano leaves for Tampa Bay Buccaneers."
At least hiring his coach would change that, I bet.
Someone claimed morning side heights was dangerous, let alone more dangerous than New Haven? Man, that's stupider than one of the patented "Alabama's defense is better than half the NFL's" rants. Good times.
Two mild upsets for ya...NYC is much safer than New Haven, but New Haven has better pizza.
I've lived in University City / West Philly, I've hung out with friends in Morningside Heights and downtown New Haven, and there's no question where the crime risk is higher. You take way more precautions going out at night in New Haven than the other two.
On pizza, while it's true that Sal's and Pepe's are awesome, we are experiencing a Great Pizza Leveling. Sometime about five to ten years ago, a whole bunch of American chefs learned what real Neapolitan pizza is, and started reproducing it. Now you can get great pizza in at least one or two places in a whole bunch of cities. There's still something special about Sal's, something special about DiFara's (watching the man hand-make every single pie at DiFara's is a legitimate occasion for a pilgrimage), but the growth of real Neapolitan means that the best places aren't that much better than that new really good place in Boston or Philly.
I hear what you're saying, though. It's definitely easier to find good pizza outside of the "pizza belt" than it used to be.
I LOVE pizza and I'm from the NY/NJ area, and if you ask me, now consigned to the pizzaless waste land of Western Maine, what pizza I'm craving on any particular day it will be one of three 1)Star Tavern in Orange, NJ, 2)Sally's in New Haven, or 3)Well done, stretched pepperoni pie at Regina's in Boston.
This is just not true. And I offer you St. Louis as evidence.
Alright I'll admit I've not actually had pizza in every city in america, but there must be something there, even if it's NY style.
WJ: If I'm remembering correctly you live in Farmington? Is that right? I lived in Wilton as a kid, I think we conversed about that years ago. I'm pretty sure when I was a kid I thought the crap at convenience stores was amazing, so I'm afraid I have no recommendations for you. There is now a handful of great places in Portland, which is cool. Haven't been in a little bit.
Sorry, I admit I'm ridiculous on this front, though I now know what I'll be doing for lunch today.
That's right, I remember. Yes, Portland has Otto, which is AWESOME. Augusta just got a "coal oven" place but if they actually use a coal oven i'd be shocked. Pizza was crap.
Honestly, some of the convenience stores are the best options around here. Douin's Market where Rt. 2 and 27 meet in New Sharon, is much better than the actual pizzeria in Farmington, OR Amato's.
I was being snarky, no harm intended. I live in a city (DC) that people constantly rag on for not having good pizza, though there's a surprising amount of diversity here. Good neapolitan options, a couple of new New Haven style places, standard NY style delivery options, and a few unique ones (Vace in Cleveland Park is outstanding). The real problem with pizza in DC is the quantity, not the quality. Everyone knows and loves the handful of great places, so they're generally crowded.
DC had about 100 homicides in 2011; it was the lowest total in 30 or 40 years. I'd be pretty surprised if NYC got under that.
New York style pizza is not good pizza. Anywhere.
As for pizza, great then. Great now.
What utter crap. Random manhattan slice joint pizza is not good, but have you ever had DiFara? i'm guessing you've never been to Pizza Town USA or any other great New Jersey pizzeria, either. Any style of pizza is good if done well, even greek.
This is too easy. If being mistaken is a "lie" then I direct you to post #81.
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So Mack Brown is already under contract 'til 2016, and he just got a 4 year extension. Makes sense to me.
IMHO, anyone who blasts Schiano is really unfair. Is this a tough blow to Rutgers? Sure. But he gave that program tremendous work, great success, and a lot more years than most coaches with his record would have. He didn't leave a week after signing day; the players he was recruiting have he chance to make a new choice. The guy made a career move he was more than entitled to make. It's nothing like Bobby Petrino, who literally interviewed for a new job every year he as at Louisville, lying to both the fans and the AD about his actions. Personally, I suspect he'll be a less-than-stellar NFL coach, but he's entitled to try.
Well as long as we acknowledge that Chicago-style pizza is not really pizza, then I'm fine with this idea. :)
I basically agree with this, except V&T's up by Columbia is pretty good and its sauce is definitely on the sweet side. Speaking of near Columbia, I really like Sal and Carmine's. The key there is the cheese is so good.
This we can agree on. I don't even understand deep dish.
One of my clients has a pig (the result of a drunken impulse purchase) and we keep trying to get her to have a pig wrestling contest in her backyard. She says no one will win, but it would be damn hilarious.
Only idiots think that Neopolitan pizza is the ne plus ultra of pizza. Most of those "real Neopolitan" restaurants serve spongy junk to people like MCoA who get a hard-on from thinking they're eating something special.
Di Fara, while good, is no better than a dozen joints in Bergen Co.
EDIT: Picco pizza is fine. Not special. A good Regina pie is better. The sundaes at Picco are terrific, though, and they sell them to-go.
Did you drop your pacifier?
Is this a gibe at SwinefotheSenate?
No, this is not common knowledge. Most people in America think Connecticut is wealthy and white and that's about all they know. While CT is wealthy and white by most measures, you are dead on target that the urban areas in Connecticut are very run down and crime ridden. There are maybe four cities in CT over 100,000, three of them are crime ridden.
Hartford
New Haven
Bridgeport
only Stamford is safer than average. The safe parts are rather boring suburbs. At least New Haven does have some nightlife and quality dining. Bridgeport is a hell hole and Hartford is just guilty of being empty.
This is spot on.
Pizza Bianco in Phoenix is largely credited with the trend of Neapolitan growth. I've been there it is very good, but not much better than most other places that make the same style. That said, the Neapolitan style while the original, is not automatically the best.
"The great leveling" is really true of all food items across this country. It used to be impossible to find good cuts of meat outside of a top restaurant, now you can get great cuts just about everywhere.
Totally agree with this too!
Since most people are lemmings, you are going to get worship of this trend.
I've been to Star, it is very good. Jersey has underrated pizza in general. To me there is a Jersey style and this is it. In New Haven the best pies are 1) Pepe's White Clam 2) Pepe Fresh Tomato 3) Modern - Sausage 4) Sally's Peperoni 5) Bar - Potato
Pizza Town in Jersey was dropped, that's solid NYC pizza. Probably even better Zeppole and Calzone.
I guess I can clarify, as 'zop ridiculous reaction to my post, while mostly a function of his special 'zoptitude, was also partly a misreading of what I said. Nowhere did I say neapolitan was the ne plus ultra of pizza. My point was that good Neapolitan is popping up around the country in places that didn't have good pizza before. This trend is a good thing.
People who say that there are innumerable places in this other region that serve better pizza than the canonical great pizza joints are commonly the same people that feel the need to tell you that your taste is laughably underdeveloped. It's not terribly surprising 'zop is one of these people.
Couldn't that just be what you're used to? I live in the Chicago area and I'm on lake water, and I love it. My wife can't stomach it, and I don't really like tap water anywhere else.
I would say "what's wrong with you" but we know that it's that you grew up loving NYC tap water.
(Yes, that was a joke. I feel the need to point that out in this thread.)
Oh definitely. I'm asking because it's quite possible it's NYC egotism combined with childhood credulity on my part.
Edit: I grew up on mineral-heavy well-water. "City water" always tasted weird to me. I'm sure I never lacked for a micronutrient. Of course, my clothes were all rust-colored, but....
I'm no water expert, but hard water or soft water maters in taste. I do not know if water hardness carries over to baking/cooking, it makes sense that it would. In beer, Bass was famous for hard water and Pilner Urquell soft water. It mattered there. It was only recently water hardness/softness could be recreated with precision by science.
Then you have the massive subject of water treatment, etc....which I have zero understanding of. Taste of NYC water might be more tied to this perhaps.
What pisses me off is almost every expert predicted Fuller to Rutgers last week before Schiano bolted.
These schools and Rutgers can't be terribly different in academics.
The GS to Tampa timing couldn't have been worse. I see nobody is really ripping the NFL.....trust me, had Greg Schiano left Tampa for Rutgers during a critical point in the NFL schedule, say week 16, even if Tampa was 4-10, cry baby NFL fans would be eviscerating Rutgers.
Week 16 on a team that's going nowhere is less important than 6 days before signing day in college football. Way less important. In fact, week 16-17 in the NFL might be the least important regular season weeks in all of sports, even winning teams stop trying.
more bad news for Rutgers in that Tom Savage's appeal to the NCAA for a hardship transfer has been declined. So from looking like a QB stable of Savage, Fuller, Nova, Dodd, Ranking, Rutgers is now back to Nova and Dodd, and hoping Rankin at least keeps his commitment. Ouchies.
Maybe Cristobal can still land Darius Hamilton.
UCLA has had many solid recruiting classes in recently memory, but nothing to show. I think they hired a moron in Mora and it is clear to me already he doesn't have a clue about college football. Of course we will all see.
This sounds familiar.
Oh it is. Ripped from the headlines.
Cristobal is making a lateral move here.
Utter horsepoop. Think about it for five seconds.
The one clear plus is that it's a bigger market, and Cristobal can parlay it into a better job down the road more easily.
Noam Chomsky invented the bubble screen while leading his intramural football squad at UPenn.
Rutgers is the flagship state university of one of the top recruiting states in the country. FIU is in a nice recruiting area, but it is #5 in its own state. Hell, it's #2 in its own city. Rutgers athletic department has probably 3 times the budget as FIU's. FIU and Rutgers could be in the exact same conference and it would still not be a "lateral move. As it is, Rutgers plays in a BCS conference, and will for at least two more years, and nobody has any idea what is happening after that, you least of all.
And lest we forget, it's not like FIU plays in CUSA or the Mountain West. They play in the Sun Belt, which is to CUSA as CUSA is to the ACC.
The talent around FIU is much better than it is around Rutgers. On the other hand, Rutgers has no competition in its own state for such players.
FIU is just building up its program, so its facilities will suck for the time being. Rutgers, on the other hand, is overextended, and won't be improving facilities any time soon.
It's a close call - hence it being a "lateral" move.
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