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Thursday, October 13, 2011

Collier: Can’t take the art out of baseball

Brother Collier takes in Moneyball at a junk palace…sorts through mess.

Perhaps the Ivy League kid is right, but I’ve never seen anyone stretch a walk into a double, nor have I ever seen a walk go through an outfielder’s legs for a triple. Baseball is thick with Jonah Hill types today, and even teams who don’t have to play moneyball have been persuaded to employ them.

That’s why the Red Sox and Yankees can’t seem to play a game that doesn’t run to four hours as they work the count and try to wear out the opposing starter without actually using the bat.

If you successfully prove that baseball is science rather than art (I say the opposite) this is what you’ll get. But this is another postseason where images of the Yankees and Red Sox are rather fleeting, are they not? Meanwhile, the St. Louis Cardinals come to bat in the first inning against $20 million starter Roy Halladay in Game 5 of the National League division series, lash a triple, rip a double before everyone is even seated, win a classic postseason ballgame, 1-0.

It’ll be a shame when the game is better in the movie houses than it is on the field. That’s what will happen if art’s only vengeance comes on the screen.

Repoz Posted: October 13, 2011 at 08:57 AM | 2 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 13, 2011 at 11:18 AM (#3961868)
Please don't link to Gene Collier, or Bob Smizik, or Ron Cook, or Mark Madden. There are lots of Pittsburgh baseball writers who don't suck - use one of those instead.

Thanks!
   2. Jim Furtado Posted: October 13, 2011 at 12:53 PM (#3961914)
A baseball insider getting worked up about Moneyball is like a marine biologist getting worked up about SpongueBob SquarePants.

Tip to everyone who has seen Moneyball and gets worked up about it: IT'S A MOVIE!! MOVIES AREN'T REALITY!

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