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Saturday, April 18, 2009

Cowley: Sox’ center-field questions are vexing Ozzie Guillen

“Life is as tedious as a twice

three or even four-told tale vexing the dull ear of a drowsy man”

‘‘There isn’t a legit center fielder out there that we can look for,’’ Guillen said Thursday. ‘‘We’re trying to put the best guy there. I’m begging those guys to start playing the way we think they can play. Not because I don’t have patience on how they’re playing; it’s because I don’t have the patience to try to figure out who is going to be the guy.

With Dewayne Wise out possibly until June with a separated right shoulder, Brian Anderson has the first opportunity to replace him. Considering Anderson stranded five of the first seven runners the Sox left on base Thursday night, there has to be an alternate plan, right?

‘‘If Brian doesn’t do the job, somebody else will,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘Who? We’ve got to figure out who it’s going to be. But right now, I don’t have no Plan B or C if Brian doesn’t do the job. I want to see Brian’s at-bats and see how that works. Just get better at-bats than what he’s got and be aggressive—that’s it. I sound like 2006 when he was in the plans every day. I had to answer the same questions: ‘What do you need from him?’ Better at-bats. That’s all.’‘

...Jerry Owens is waiting in the wings on the bench and Scott Podsednik is at Class AAA Charlotte, but the best scenario might be moving Alexei Ramirez to center and calling up Gordon Beckham to play shortstop. While that has been discussed, the Sox want to get a few more games under Beckham’s belt at Class AA Birmingham.

Repoz Posted: April 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Stately, Plump Buck Mulligan Posted: April 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM (#3143453)
Sigh. Great to hear that something every Sox fan realized was going to be a problem is indeed a problem.

What about Marlon Byrd? He certainly seems capable with the bat. What's his defense like?
   2. Sox Machine Posted: April 18, 2009 at 12:52 PM (#3143456)
...but the best scenario might be moving Alexei Ramirez to center and calling up Gordon Beckham to play shortstop.

Of course, Alexei is the one guy having worse at-bats on the team than any of the center fielders.
   3. Jimmy P Posted: April 18, 2009 at 03:21 PM (#3143518)
What about Marlon Byrd? He certainly seems capable with the bat. What's his defense like?

Rather have Spilborghs or Seth Smith. It seems that as much as Ozzie and Kenny don't want Anderson there, they don't want to pay for a CF either.

Of course, Alexei is the one guy having worse at-bats on the team than any of the center fielders.

He's getting a huge free pass. It defies explanation how he can be the worst hitter on the team, and no one even mentions it.

...but the best scenario might be moving Alexei Ramirez to center and calling up Gordon Beckham to play shortstop.

This will be the ultimate solution. As much as they say Alexei's the SS and Beckham's a 2B, there's no real evidence that Alexei's better at D than Beckham. And, Getz is a better hitter than anyone they've trotted out in CF this year. If Beckham tears it up for a month, and Kenny hasn't acquired a new CF, then I bet we'll see Beckham at SS in June.
   4. Stately, Plump Buck Mulligan Posted: April 18, 2009 at 03:39 PM (#3143526)
He's getting a huge free pass. It defies explanation how he can be the worst hitter on the team, and no one even mentions it.


Not to defend Alexei, as he has looked terrible, but (a) it's only 10 games and (b) the guy also looked horrible in March/April of last year (hitting .121/.147/.182 in 36 plate appearances). So his OPS has actually gone up from the same time last year, from 329 to 354 (he's currently at .143/.211/.143). That's progress, right?

...but the best scenario might be moving Alexei Ramirez to center and calling up Gordon Beckham to play shortstop.


I thought that was the best idea before the season started, at least long-term, but I don't know how I feel about moving players around in-season (although perhaps Alexei can't do any worse than he's doing now). Let's hope the White Sox don't take their marching orders from the '08 Detroit Tigers on that.
   5. Robinson Cano Plate Like Home Posted: April 18, 2009 at 03:56 PM (#3143536)
I'm guessing Jim Edmonds would listen if Kenny called....
   6. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: April 18, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3143541)
How the hell did no one sign Edmonds? His 2008 stats are solid. What happened?
   7. karkface killah Posted: April 18, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3143544)
Big pile of dogsh*t is vexing Ozzie Guillen.
   8. Starlin of the Slipstream (TRHN) Posted: April 18, 2009 at 04:11 PM (#3143546)
I think the problem with Edmonds is that you wouldn't go into 2009 with him as a starting OF because, even if you could stomach the defense, he's pretty brittle, but he probably doesn't want a bench role.

EDIT: And it's seemed to me that Anderson has been giving the Sox good PAs. He's only hitting .214 in 14 ABs, but he's got 4 BBs.
   9. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 18, 2009 at 04:17 PM (#3143550)
That's progress, right?

I think offense is up this year.
   10. Repoz Posted: April 18, 2009 at 04:52 PM (#3143572)
I think offense is up this year.

Waaay up. Let's see what the "Steroid Era" crowd has to say now.

I applaud Lord R Budd Selig for keeping the live ball in and not bowing to the pressures!

From Matt Pouliot...

With 10 more homers hit in Friday's two afternoon games, it seemed like a good time check back in on where we're at for offense during 2009.

When we looked in last week, there had been 70 homers in 31 games, which works out to 2.26 per game, a big increase over April 2008.

Now we're 141 games in, and it looks like that itty-bitty sample at the beginning of the season was no fluke. There have been 321 homers hit, an average of 2.28 per game.

...There have been 1,405 runs scored overall, an average of 9.97 per game. Last season saw an average of 9.30 runs scored per game. In April, it was just 9.06 runs per game. 2007 saw an average of 9.60 runs per game, 9.08 during April.

I think we have enough of a sample now to say that offense is clearly up, and it's due in large part to the surge of homers. Many managers and GMs spoke over the winter about a return to more small ball in the post-steroids era, but that's not what we've seen so far.
   11. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 18, 2009 at 04:52 PM (#3143574)
Edmonds can be p#ssy if he thinks he should be playing. Not that Ozzie can't handle things but is the guy worth the nuisance given that he's likely to be done as a player? Do you want him around as you confirm that?
   12. The District Attorney Posted: April 18, 2009 at 04:58 PM (#3143577)
I was certainly under the impression that Edmonds is now a major defensive liability in CF. Someone still oughta sign him, but as a platoon corner OF, I would think.

If Beckham is a legit defensive SS, then the move described in TFA makes sense. But I'm not sure that he is... and the Sox seem to at least think Alexei is an amazing defensive SS... so this may take some doing, here.
   13. Sox Machine Posted: April 18, 2009 at 04:59 PM (#3143578)
EDIT: And it's seemed to me that Anderson has been giving the Sox good PAs. He's only hitting .214 in 14 ABs, but he's got 4 BBs.

Kinda. Two of those walks were four-pitch ones, one was a five-pitch one, and on the latest one, ball four was really strike three.

But the Sox should give him a solid week of starts in the ninth spot before talking any more about it. He's not killing them.
   14. Jimmy P Posted: April 18, 2009 at 05:04 PM (#3143580)
I thought that was the best idea before the season started, at least long-term, but I don't know how I feel about moving players around in-season (although perhaps Alexei can't do any worse than he's doing now).

It's not like Alexei has never played CF before, though. He played a good amount of it in Cuba. Plus, while he may have a ton of range, he doesn't have great hands at SS. Beckham may not be Troy Tulowitzki out there, but he's not Jeter either. I've read many reports that he's more than adequate at SS.

Edmonds can be p#ssy if he thinks he should be playing. Not that Ozzie can't handle things but is the guy worth the nuisance given that he's likely to be done as a player? Do you want him around as you confirm that?

Before Edmonds went to the Cubs, he was terrible. In 2007, he was no upgrade over the Sox current solutions. Plus, there's no way in hell that Edmonds fits in with AJ and Ozzie, and those are the two dominant personalities on the Sox.
   15. KJOK Posted: April 18, 2009 at 06:10 PM (#3143628)
How the hell did no one sign Edmonds? His 2008 stats are solid. What happened?


I believe Edmonds has a new child, and because of that didn't agressively pursue any baseball employment. Plus, he can't really cover CF anymore, unless it's a small CF like Wrigley.
   16. SouthSideRyan Posted: April 18, 2009 at 06:23 PM (#3143635)
Before Edmonds went to the Cubs, he was terrible.


And then he had a pathetic week and went on to OPS 1000 the rest of the year. The issue with Edmonds is that the Sox can't afford to put up with his defense cause Quentin is bad-mediocre in LF, and Dye is as bad in RF as Edmonds is in CF. I don't understand why some team hasn't picked him up though.
   17. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: April 18, 2009 at 06:26 PM (#3143638)
Of course, Alexei is the one guy having worse at-bats on the team than any of the center fielders.

It's still early, so there's a really good chance I could be wrong, but I've been saying that his summer 2008 performance wasn't sustainable. I love to watch the guy play baseball, but I'm not too optimistic about him.

On the other side of the coin, Josh Fields looks like the real deal, at least for now. He looks totally different, both in the field and at bat.

Waaay up. Let's see what the "Steroid Era" crowd has to say now.

I applaud Lord R Budd Selig for keeping the live ball in and not bowing to the pressures!


This, although I find the lively ball to be annoying.

Hopefully now sportswriters will start looking at other explanations other than PEDs. Probably they'll just say that players discovered new, undetectable steroids this winter.
   18. The Lovesong of J. Alfredo Griffin Posted: April 18, 2009 at 09:56 PM (#3143954)
Hopefully now sportswriters will start looking at other explanations other than PEDs. Probably they'll just say that players discovered new, undetectable steroids this winter.


At least kevin will.
   19. Marcel Posted: April 18, 2009 at 10:18 PM (#3143983)
Alexei is getting a free pass because otherwise all of those moronic white sox fans that harass Klaw every week would have to admit that he was right.

And the fans have to give him a free pass because he sure as hell never takes one himself. (ha! That one's for you john)
   20. Jimmy P Posted: April 20, 2009 at 05:09 PM (#3145609)
It's still early, so there's a really good chance I could be wrong, but I've been saying that his summer 2008 performance wasn't sustainable. I love to watch the guy play baseball, but I'm not too optimistic about him.

Me either. If he was better at defense I would be. I argue with my brother and dad on this. They think Alexei's going to develop discipline. He's 27 (if you believe that), he's not changing. When he hits .300, he'll be really useful. When he hits .270, he's not going to help. That's the way he is. At least Ozzie bats him 8th and not 1st or 2nd.
   21. Kiko Sakata Posted: April 20, 2009 at 05:43 PM (#3145652)
Since Wise separated his shoulder, Anderson's batted .313 (5-16) with an OBP of .500 and 5 runs scored in 6 games (actually 5-1/2; I'm counting the game where Wise got hurt). Assuming he's still the same defender he's always been, isn't this article a little dated already (I notice that the quote from Guillen in the intro is from Thursday)? I know Anderson's not going to end the season with an OBP of .500, but, then again, he's probably not going to end the season with an ISO of zero either.
   22. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: April 20, 2009 at 05:47 PM (#3145658)
We'll see what Anderson does from here on out. Personally, I could live with limited offensive production from Anderson for the rest of the season, but I don't know if Ozzie Guillen or Ken Williams could.
   23. Jimmy P Posted: April 20, 2009 at 06:31 PM (#3145706)
Assuming he's still the same defender he's always been, isn't this article a little dated already (I notice that the quote from Guillen in the intro is from Thursday)?

No. Because Anderson has to "prove it." Stats aren't proving it, because by the numbers he's outperformed Wise and Wise still got the job. Anderson supposedly had a bad spring, Anderson's been bad this year, and yet everything points to him being decent.

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