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RJ: Casey, you know if people that know the game of baseball and you take a look at the ballclub, we didn’t have .300 hitters. I think Joe Rudi may have been our only .300 hitter. We had guys that produced, that drove in runs, we hit the ball out of the ballpark, and we hit the ball out of the ballpark when it counted. With Bando or Rudi, or with Deron Johnson, we had guys that got base hits when it counted. We had our stolen base guys in Billy North, and the great Bert Campaneris stole bases when we needed it. Those two guys at the top of the order stole 100 together maybe a little bit more. So we were extremely efficient.
We were a tremendous defensive ballclub, we were very sound fundamentally. Dick Williams pounded fundamentals into us. Captain Sal, was a guy that kept things together as a ballclub, kept every body pulling the same way. So we were a outstanding, very efficient business like club, that played the game to win and we had all the ingredients necessary. We had tremendous starting pitching, middle relief, and at the back of the bullpen a shutdown guy with Rollie Fingers.
Thanks to Butch.
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1. OCF Posted: May 28, 2012 at 03:57 PM (#4141739)1971: Oakland team OPS+ 108, ERA+ 109
1972: Oakland team OPS+ 111, ERA+ 111
1973: Oakland team OPS+ 108, ERA+ 109
1974: Oakland team OPS+ 105, ERA+ 113
In all it looks pretty balanced between offense and defense. Of course Reggie is full of it when he says that they didn't have the batting stats but managed to get their hits at key times. They did have the batting stats, as a power hitting team in a pitcher's park.
But one other thing jumped out at me looking at the AL stats for those years: Baltimore was better than Oakland in OPS+ and ERA+, usually (except in 1972 when the offense went sour) a lot better. Either there's a large East/West divide in talent in that AL (which I don't particularly see) or Oakland was lucky to win as many ALCS as it did.
A number of members of this team have attracted some attention and support for the Hall of Merit. Reggie, of course, is in, but Campaneris, Bando, and Tenace have all drawn votes.
As for Reggie himself and .300: he never had a .300 season average. But take the very years I'm talking about, 1971-1974 and run them through the bb-ref neutralizer to the default 4.46 R/G level, and his seasonal averages for those four years are .295, .301, .312, .316.
He hit .300 in 1980.
As BDC notes, .300 was much more of a talisman than it is today. Nobody was there to tell Mickey Mantle (143 OPS+ in his final, terrible, awful season) that he had plummeted all the way down to being as good as Tony Oliva.
Baltimore swept the ALCS in 1971. That was the last of their truly dominant years. Their hitting went south in '72 and they didn't win the East.
In 1973 and 1974 the O's were better on paper, but the A's starters outperformed the O's starters in the playoffs, and that was the critical difference. In 1973 it came down to McNally's implosion, Holtzman's brilliance, and Hunter's dominance combined with Alexander's collapse. And in 1974 Holtzman, Blue and Hunter pitched as good a set of back-to-back-to-back games as you'll ever see---1 runs in 27 innings---and that's what won it for them. Reggie may have been onto something with his "when it counted" rhetoric, because in the 1972-73-74 postseasons, the A's were 14 and 5 in one run games. That's what great pitching depth can do for you.
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