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Friday, September 27, 2013

Cuba: Athletes can sign overseas

Cuba announced Friday that island athletes will be allowed to sign contracts to compete in foreign leagues, a shift from decades of policy that held professional sports to be anathema to socialist ideals.

The measure promises to greatly increase the amount of money baseball players and others are able to earn, and seems geared toward stemming a continuing wave of defections by athletes who are lured abroad by the possibility of lucrative contracts, sapping talent from national squads.

eddieot Posted: September 27, 2013 at 09:43 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RMc's Yelling Mob of Hackmen Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:39 PM (#4552332)
Well, now.
   2. altavista Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:40 PM (#4552335)
BOOOM
   3. Rants Mulliniks Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:42 PM (#4552338)
Didn't see that coming!
   4. Rafael Bellylard: The Grinch of Orlando. Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:43 PM (#4552339)
This is the market the Marlins should be hitting hard if they truly want to improve their situation.
   5. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:43 PM (#4552340)
3: I did, actually.

Regardless, don't think you'll see them come to US directly, for a few reasons (US politics among them). Wonder though if you'll see guys play in Mexico, defect, and then come to the US in any kind of numbers...
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:44 PM (#4552341)
Wow!

I wonder if the athletes will be taxed on their earnings..

Edit. Reading the article and yes they will.
   7. tfbg9 Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:48 PM (#4552349)
"Professional sports were outlawed under Fidel Castro in 1961, two years after the Cuban Revolution.

Granma also announced raises at home for athletes, including bonuses for individual achievements and collective awards for team success.

Baseball players who appear in 70 percent of league games will be awarded $208. League leaders in hitting and other categories get an extra $41. The team that wins the title gets $2,700 to split.

Players in the National Baseball Series will earn $41 a month, and Olympic medalists around $63.

It's not clear what athletes were paid before, but monthly state salaries in Cuba average about $20 plus the social benefits provided to all islanders.

On top of that they'll get a monthly "stimulus" for international achievements, ranging from $26 for being on national squads to $104 for an Olympic gold medal.

Medalists will also continue collect lifetime monthly awards of $100 to $300.

The new rules do not appear to apply to athletes who left in the past, either through defection or other means, such as champion hurdler Dayron Robles who left for Europe after being released from his commitment in Cuba."
   8. He who brought the butter dish to Balshazar (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:48 PM (#4552350)
The excerpt leaves out what seems to be a crucial point. Any athelete who plays abroad, is still expected to fulfill their obligations at home, which includes participating in domestic leagues and seasons (as well as international competitions)
   9. Bourbon Samurai is disturbed by bagel developments Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:56 PM (#4552363)
The excerpt leaves out what seems to be a crucial point. Any athelete who plays abroad, is still expected to fulfill their obligations at home, which includes participating in domestic leagues and seasons (as well as international competitions)


Interesting. So this would msotly be guys playing in the Dominicain winter league and things like that?
   10. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4552372)
Cuban domestic league plays in the winter. Mexican League seems like the most likely destination.
   11. vortex of dissipation Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:20 PM (#4552386)
In 2002, Cuba allowed three players to go play in Japan. Of the three, only Omar Linares made it to the highest rung of NPB, and he was 34 at the time with failing knees, so he never made much of an impact. He played 132 games in three seasons with the Chunichi Dragons, putting up a line of .246/.327/.387 with 11 home runs.
   12. Shibal Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:22 PM (#4552388)
Any athelete who plays abroad, is still expected to fulfill their obligations at home, which includes participating in domestic leagues and seasons (as well as international competitions)


Or else what? They won't let them back in the country?

What this means is players who want to play in the US won't be risking their lives leaving the country. And those with the skill set to play in the majors will probably be able to buy their way out of any Cuban commitments.

Good news all around.



   13. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:25 PM (#4552391)
Doesn't appear to address travel issues for players' family & friends - much less the general public - so it's not clear that Cuba is making any real progress on basic human rights.
   14. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:28 PM (#4552400)
Many Cubans will want to represent the country in international competitions, and probably even Cuban winter leagues.

Good news. Baby steps.
   15. Publius Publicola Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:30 PM (#4552402)
Raul is jumping on the rouhini/Obama lovefest bandwagon to loosen up his own embargo restrictions
   16. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:36 PM (#4552413)
It won't have any direct effect on MLB due to the continued embargo (and even the Blue Jays, for example, would be unable to get a Cuban simply because they still get a large chunk of American money and they'd have to only use the Cubans at home even if they could), but it could make it easier for defections (i.e. a Cuban goes to play in the Mexican League, but then either refuses to go back or somehow shows up in San Diego or Texas applying for asylum).
   17. Shibal Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:38 PM (#4552415)
It won't have any direct effect on MLB due to the continued embargo (and even the Blue Jays, for example, would be unable to get a Cuban simply because they still get a large chunk of American money and they'd have to only use the Cubans at home even if they could),
Why wouldn't a Cuban be allowed to play in the US currently, without defecting?
   18. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:38 PM (#4552416)
point of clarification on the cuban sked - overlaps w that of mlb (into may)
   19. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2013 at 03:24 PM (#4552458)
Why wouldn't a Cuban be allowed to play in the US currently, without defecting?


It has to do, I believe, with the fact that in essence eventually the money the player would be paid would find it's way back to Cuba. Or something like that. I don't understand complicated things involved economic embargos.
   20. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: September 27, 2013 at 03:46 PM (#4552479)
I wonder what "Cuban" Pete Angelos thinks of this, and whether he will finally lift his stupid discriminatory policy or not.
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 27, 2013 at 03:59 PM (#4552490)
I think we can trust the President of Cuba, Mr. Burns.

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