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Cubs leaving no stone unturned as organizational revamp kicks into high gear – The Athletic

It doesn’t take long to fall behind.

It’s important to listen to how Epstein describes what he calls a modernization of the front office — a reshuffling process that’s already begun. One of those changes is adding directors of pitching and hitting.

“I think the goal of someone in the role of director of pitching is to have real clarity on what our pitching philosophy is, what our separators are going to be as an organization, how we make the best use of the most cutting edge technology for the state of modern pitching and most importantly where pitching is going over the next several years,” Epstein said. “And then implement that from top to bottom of the organization — more on the minor-league side, but with a working relationship with the major-league staff so that we have the best possible methods with how we teach pitching, how we maximize our pitching and how we evaluate pitching.”

Jim Furtado Posted: October 03, 2019 at 08:48 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Zonk is not as Outlandish as he could be Posted: October 03, 2019 at 09:58 AM (#5885818)
TFA includes an awful lot of sorta, kinda tip-toeing around the FO failures... and while I suppose it's too much to ask that the head of any FO just flat-out say "Boy... we haven't done so well lately!" - I wish I'd see more focus there and less on the managerial and coaching staff.

The under-the-radar pseudo "change" in Jaron Madison's role (which seems an awful lot like the old "kicked upstairs" sort of firing cliche) was promising -- Cubs scouting has really been #### over the last few years.

   2. Brian C Posted: October 03, 2019 at 01:43 PM (#5885956)
“I think the goal of someone in the role of director of pitching is to have real clarity on what our pitching philosophy is, what our separators are going to be as an organization, how we make the best use of the most cutting edge technology for the state of modern pitching and most importantly where pitching is going over the next several years,” Epstein said. “And then implement that from top to bottom of the organization — more on the minor-league side, but with a working relationship with the major-league staff so that we have the best possible methods with how we teach pitching, how we maximize our pitching and how we evaluate pitching.”

I assume that, in actual practice, this won't be as one-size-fits-all as it sounds.
   3. McCoy Posted: October 03, 2019 at 02:49 PM (#5885994)
I would assume they do not create a philosophy that is extremely specific. As in the philosophy isn't going to be by 79 inches tall, right handed, with a mustache and a 34 inh waist


I would imagine they are going to want certain things and they will draft and trade accordingly.
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 03:05 PM (#5886000)
“I think the goal of someone in the role of director of pitching is to have real clarity on what our pitching philosophy is,

Throw strikes, change speeds, work fast. Done.
   5. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 03, 2019 at 03:41 PM (#5886019)
Good luck getting Jon Lester to do that last one.
   6. Zonk is not as Outlandish as he could be Posted: October 03, 2019 at 04:40 PM (#5886056)
Without looking up the exact date Zobrist signed (or even not caring, actually) --

You're not going to get me to say anything bad about Lester... 13.7 WAR and 6.1 WAA. Even if he turns into Casey Coleman and gets released by May...

The last really good FA signing by this FO.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 03, 2019 at 04:55 PM (#5886064)
You're not going to get me to say anything bad about Lester... 13.7 WAR and 6.1 WAA. Even if he turns into Casey Coleman and gets released by May...

The last really good FA signing by this FO.
Really? You're OK with paying $11,313,868.60 per WAR?
   8. Walt Davis Posted: October 03, 2019 at 05:13 PM (#5886075)
separators

Latest corporate buzzword?

You're OK with paying $11,313,868.60 per WAR?

You betcha. Obviously I'd prefer more WAR but that's a trivial "overspend", the extra $3 M per year wouldn't have made any real difference in terms of talent acquired otherwise and it's not my money.

To the extent I have a gripe it's that I thought Scherzer would be better (I got one right!) and he ended up not costing much more (once you take all the deferments into account). But that's a gripe against the FO, not Lester.
   9. Zonk is not as Outlandish as he could be Posted: October 03, 2019 at 06:57 PM (#5886114)
Ditto Walt.

For a premier FA where you're obviously paying backend bonus?

Absolutely.

The WAR/$ equation is neither linear nor oblivious to other factors.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: October 03, 2019 at 10:45 PM (#5886287)
My take is more along the lines of ... the disasters are the Hamiltons, Howards, etc. Plenty of teams have ended up paying $20-25 M per WAR when all was said and done (or its equivalent back in the Darren Dreifort era). $11 M per WAR is just "within a reasonable range of expectation" ... as would something like $6 M per WAR. The big disappointment with Lester was 2017 when you're expecting 3-4 WAR out of him. To me, that's the acceptable level of risk you know you're taking with any long-term contract -- maybe you get lucky and he puts up a 6 WAR season there; maybe you get unlucky and he puts up 1. Nobody's a metronome, everybody has off years and for pitchers missing a year due to injury is common. That level of risk exists for every player so if you won't accept that, you will never sign a top FA. Sometimes you get normal lucky, sometimes you get normal un-lucky.

I mean a few years ago, I was kinda hoping we'd sign Jordan Zimmermann. I thought Detroit did pretty good getting him for 5/$110. They've gotten 1 WAR out of him. Like a lot of folks I was a little worried about the way Cueto's 2015 ended but I wouldn't have objected too strongly ... he's been not that bad at 9 WAR with one year to go but he's thrown just 69 innings the last 2 years combined and I'd certainly rather have the guy who still gives you 180 per year.

More broadly, once the contract's signed, the money's spent. Salary doesn't affect my expectations or projections, nor should it. Except for 2017, Lester has pretty much pitched the way I expected ... and that production has been a substantial contribution to the Cubs' excellent record over the last 5 years. What more can I ask for really? I'd do that deal over again (assuming I still couldn't just sign Scherzer).
   11. Zonk is not as Outlandish as he could be Posted: October 03, 2019 at 10:53 PM (#5886292)
Hey - I was hot after Zimmermann too... I just choose not to mention it much because even beyond Jordan's descent into latter day/bad Rick Mahler, I've got plenty of sins around lusting for Tyler Chatwood well before he got signed... plus loving the Darvish signing.

Anyway, I'm just mostly point out the whole Kevin Brown idea. When you sign a highly sought after 30+ vet - you're more than likely figuring in a premium, back-end bonus.

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