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Tuesday, December 27, 2011

Cubs Sign Andy Sonnanstine

In yet another “buy low” move, the Cubs have signed former Rays righthander Andy Sonnanstine to a non-guaranteed split contract—i.e. he’ll make more if he makes the major league team.

Sonnanstine looked promising in his first two seasons with the Rays, particularly in 2008 when he posted a 101 ERA+ and had an excellent walk ratio of 1.7 per nine innings and had two good starts for the Rays in the 2008 postseason. But he has regressed the last three years, was banished to the Rays’ bullpen and spent much of 2011 at Triple-A Durham.

Sonnanstine will be 29 in March. He’s a reclamation project, but at that age he’s got a much better chance to be productive than the retreads (Doug Davis, Ramon Ortiz, Rodrigo Lopez) that Jim Hendry signed last year.

Thanks to Pete.

Repoz Posted: December 27, 2011 at 02:07 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Spahn Insane Posted: December 27, 2011 at 04:35 AM (#4023786)
Sure, what the hell. Simply accumulating replacement-level depth ensures we won't see a repeat of last season's starting pitching disaster.
   2. rr Posted: December 27, 2011 at 04:50 AM (#4023792)
I will be interested to see if Hoyer tries to get Anthony Rizzo.
   3. Spahn Insane Posted: December 27, 2011 at 05:03 AM (#4023794)
Getting Rizzo would culminate a nice sequence of front office incest.

He's a nice prospect, but I'm still hoping they go after Fielder.
   4. SteveM. Posted: December 27, 2011 at 05:04 AM (#4023795)
I'd be more interested if Theo tried to sign Prince Fielder. But what the hell, lets act like the A's or Devil Rays and be cheap.
   5. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: December 27, 2011 at 02:53 PM (#4023845)
I'd be more interested if Theo tried to sign Prince Fielder. But what the hell, lets act like the A's or Devil Rays and be cheap.


If the on field results are similar to the Rays -- three 90+ win seasons, three playoff runs, and a WS loss in the last 5 years, I really couldn't care less. Heck, even with the latest run of mediocrity - the A's have five 90+ win seasons in the last 10 years; the Cubs have one.

I don't care if the Cubs win with a 50 million dollar payroll of kids and reclamations or a 150 million dollar payroll.
   6. Greg Pope Posted: December 27, 2011 at 03:50 PM (#4023869)
But what the hell, lets act like the A's or Devil Rays and be cheap.

As zonk says, building like the Rays for a few years would be a huge step up. Then, because you have money, you actually hold onto Crawford (ok, maybe bad example) and Garza.
   7. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 27, 2011 at 04:36 PM (#4023888)
I have no idea how signing Andy Sonnanstine to a non-guaranteed contract will prevent the Cubs from signing better, more expensive players.
   8. SouthSideRyan Posted: December 27, 2011 at 04:43 PM (#4023891)
[6]As has been pointed out by everyone, you can build like the Rays while still spending on the major league team.
   9. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 27, 2011 at 05:26 PM (#4023901)
He’s a reclamation project, but at that age he’s got a much better chance to be productive than the retreads (Doug Davis, Ramon Ortiz, Rodrigo Lopez) that Jim Hendry signed last year.


I'm not sure I buy Sonnanstine as a big bounce-back candidate. He just doesn't seem to have the stuff to succeed against good hitters.

Also, wasn't Lopez a pretty decent placeholder last season? 97 2/3 innings with an 88 ERA+ seems fairly "productive" to me.
   10. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: December 27, 2011 at 05:46 PM (#4023915)
Also, wasn't Lopez a pretty decent placeholder last season? 97 2/3 innings with an 88 ERA+ seems fairly "productive" to me.


No, no, no -- that's disastrous... Rodrigo Lopez and his nearly 100 innings of only superficially cromulent baseball were in reality what kept the vaunted 2011 Cubs from besting the far inferior eventual WS champ Cardinals and division winning Brewers.
   11. Greg Pope Posted: December 27, 2011 at 05:54 PM (#4023918)
As has been pointed out by everyone, you can build like the Rays while still spending on the major league team.

Well, everyone except those who you have been arguing with.
   12. SouthSideRyan Posted: December 27, 2011 at 07:54 PM (#4023981)
The royal "everyone," you know the editorial...
   13. sinicalypse Posted: December 27, 2011 at 10:41 PM (#4024065)
#10 has made my day by using the term "superficially cromulent" in proper context. cromulent is such an awesome word that whatever chrome/windows spellchecker that perpetually hawks over my every typed utterance seems to think it isn't a real word. it suggests that i change it to "corpulent"

oh yeah, the topic.... as a kid who grew up in chicago with a cubs-fan family @ wrigley field and grew up to become a proud expos fan, alls i can say is that i thought theo was supposed to go trade blake dewitt for matt moore or something like that. the tribune put a giant ~2/3-3/4-page sized picture of theo on the front of the sports section and declared that chicago is "His type of town" so i'm expecting baseball jesus to floor us with the brilliance ASAP. the david dejesus epoch needs to be ushered in, dammit.

(i'd bet that sonnanstine has a ~4.50ish ERA when it's all said and done this year... preferably in long relief. at least there will be plenty of $5 lower-deck grandstand tickets this year!)
   14. McCoy Posted: December 28, 2011 at 05:53 AM (#4024217)
Well, if you aren't going to spend you might as well buy a bunch of lottery tickets with what little you do spend.

But I don't really understand some of these lottery ticket picks. If they turn out to go be good players they'll only have them for one year before they lose them and really do you want to spend big bucks on some guy that just put up a bounce back season? So then sombody will say they can trade them during the season to which I'll counter with it isn't 1992 anymore and these guys aren't going to fetch much. Perhaps someone is way more in love with C level prospects than me but I still don't think they'll ever get close to being of value to a major league club.
   15. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 28, 2011 at 12:32 PM (#4024236)
Sonnanstine should atill be arb-eligible in 2013, so he won't cost "big bucks".
   16. McCoy Posted: December 28, 2011 at 03:40 PM (#4024305)
For a guy in his final year of arb and having a history of putting up a sub 70 ERA+ whatever he gets is going to be "big bucks".

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