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Cubs sign Manny Ramirez to be player-coach at Triple-A Iowa | MLB.com

Oh that Manny!!

Jim Furtado Posted: May 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: May 25, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4713114)
This could be very entertaining.
   2. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: May 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4713115)
I don't know Manny is at communicating but if he can do it he'd be a great coach. His work ethic regarding his hitting was said to be second to none and he came across as incredibly knowledgable.
   3. cardsfanboy Posted: May 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM (#4713118)
I don't know Manny is at communicating but if he can do it he'd be a great coach. His work ethic regarding his hitting was said to be second to none and he came across as incredibly knowledgable.


Yesterdays Cardinal/Reds game, Kapler gave a small endorsement to Manny's communication ability. It wasn't a big deal, but he talked about how everyone says that when you foul a ball straight back, how everyone says "He's on that ball." according to Manny, it means you are actually a little behind. (that was pretty much the end of the story, but it's the first time I remember anyone pointing to Manny as being insightful and communicative)
   4. Gamingboy Posted: May 25, 2014 at 01:09 PM (#4713123)
This will be fun.
   5. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: May 25, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4713125)
Let's say 20 years from now, Manny has become a very successful manager, winning several pennants and World Series. Would teh steroids still ban him from the Hall, even if he were nominated as a manager?
   6. Blastin Posted: May 25, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4713126)
I would hire Manny as a hitting coach for a young team. Maybe more as a specialist (like he comes in to help particular players but not the day to day).
   7. Jim Furtado Posted: May 25, 2014 at 02:01 PM (#4713130)
For all the side theatrics, Manny was a very smart hitter. On MLB Radio the hosts were talking specifically about Manny working with Javier Baez who, to this point, hasn't been able to make the transition to AAA. It made sense to me.
   8. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: May 25, 2014 at 02:46 PM (#4713138)
Are AAA clubhouse facilities up for the challenge?
   9. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 25, 2014 at 02:52 PM (#4713139)
I get the sense that Manny would be more comfortable at Colorado Springs.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 25, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4713144)
The link isn't taking me to The Onion, WTF?
   11. billyshears Posted: May 25, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4713153)
This is my favorite thing ever.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: May 25, 2014 at 05:34 PM (#4713191)
The Cubs finally land a top free agent!

What do you mean it's not 2001.
   13. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: May 25, 2014 at 08:09 PM (#4713254)
On MLB Radio the hosts were talking specifically about Manny working with Javier Baez who, to this point, hasn't been able to make the transition to AAA.

Hasn't he been crushing it for the last week or so?
   14. Justin T., Director of Somethin Posted: May 25, 2014 at 08:50 PM (#4713268)
Manny seemed like an unlikely candidate to be the next Rickey/Julio.
   15. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 25, 2014 at 09:07 PM (#4713275)
Just Theo Being Theo.
   16. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: May 25, 2014 at 11:58 PM (#4713318)
I'm unreasonably happy about this. Manny was always a lot of fun to watch and he was the epitome of a professional hitter.
   17. Zach Posted: May 26, 2014 at 01:34 AM (#4713331)
I didn't even know there was such a thing as left field scoreboard coach.
   18. John Northey Posted: May 26, 2014 at 07:49 AM (#4713353)
Given Tony LaRussa was a unanimous HOF pick I don't think PED's will keep a manager out as he had the ugliest public record of anyone thanks to McGwire & Canseco. Of course, by the time Manny would qualify as a manager it'd be 20 years from now (given how many wins a manager needs to get seriously considered) and by then PEDs from today will probably be viewed as quaint vs the bionics and other surgery people do then.
   19. Jose Molina wants a nickname like "A-Rod" Posted: May 26, 2014 at 08:00 AM (#4713355)
What I don't get is why Manny would do this? He's got oodles of money, yet now has committed himself to farting around from backwoods town to backwoods town on a bus all summer.
   20. Steve M. Posted: May 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM (#4713376)
What I don't get is why Manny would do this? He's got oodles of money, yet now has committed himself to farting around from backwoods town to backwoods town on a bus all summer.

If I had to guess, he just really loves the game and wants to say close to it. Also, it is probably in the back of his mind that he feels like he can still help a Major League team, and doesn't want to close the door on that possibility. We all know that he's completely washed up, but hell... Miguel Tejada had almost 200 PAs last season after a year out of MLB, was suspended for PEDs, and the Marlins still took a flyer on a minor league deal.

You do you, Manny.
   21. The Fallen Reputation of Billy Jo Robidoux Posted: May 26, 2014 at 10:28 AM (#4713379)
How common are minor league player-coaches? I think this is the first time I've seen that done.
   22. McCoy Posted: May 26, 2014 at 10:44 AM (#4713383)
Hasn't he been crushing it for the last week or so?

A 4 for 5 day with 2 doubles is carrying a lot of the water over the last week.

12 for 30 over the last 7 games with 6 doubles, 3 HR, and 1 BB.
   23. PreservedFish Posted: May 26, 2014 at 11:26 AM (#4713396)
What I don't get is why Manny would do this? He's got oodles of money, yet now has committed himself to farting around from backwoods town to backwoods town on a bus all summer.


Not everyone's ready for retirement in their early 40s, and Manny also has a reputation as a sort of hitting idiot savant. This might be the best way for him to feel like he's contributing to the world.
   24. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: May 26, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4713440)
I think Manny's end of the deal is he gets to face AAA pitching which is enough competition that he can prove himself to major league teams.

Baez is talented but his K rates are atrocious this year (and it seems to be a feature for Cubs prospects in general).

Say what you will about Manny but he was a remarkably well rounded batter. He hit for average, hit for power, drew walks and managed his strikeouts. Baez could do much worse than to imitate his batting habits. It's an interesting idea, I guess.
   25. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 26, 2014 at 02:01 PM (#4713459)
What I don't get is why Manny would do this? He's got oodles of money, yet now has committed himself to farting around from backwoods town to backwoods town on a bus all summer.

Manny has committed to doing this for as long as he likes it. Assuming he hasn't blown through the $200M+ he earned (and Manny had the reputation of being quite thrifty), he can pack it in the first time the club house towels aren't fluffy enough for his tastes.
   26. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 26, 2014 at 02:15 PM (#4713464)

Not everyone's ready for retirement in their early 40s, and Manny also has a reputation as a sort of hitting idiot savant.


I thought of him that way too, until the steroids thing. As people know I don't care about steroids per se, but Manny always struck me as someone who could roll out of bed and rope a line drive. The fact that he THOUGHT he needed steroids was sort of sad to me.
   27. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: May 26, 2014 at 02:49 PM (#4713484)
A 4 for 5 day with 2 doubles is carrying a lot of the water over the last week.

12 for 30 over the last 7 games with 6 doubles, 3 HR, and 1 BB.


So he's hitting .400 with a 1.000 slugging percentage over the last week.
   28. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 26, 2014 at 04:21 PM (#4713529)
What I don't get is why Manny would do this? He's got oodles of money, yet now has committed himself to farting around from backwoods town to backwoods town on a bus all summer.


What? I know the Cubs have their team in Iowa, but most Triple-A teams are in significant-sized cities and they use planes, not buses, to get around.
   29. Walt Davis Posted: May 26, 2014 at 06:14 PM (#4713609)
What I don't get is why Manny would do this? He's got oodles of money, yet now has committed himself to farting around from backwoods town to backwoods town on a bus all summer.

I know lots of guys who wish they could retire tomorrow and do pretty much nothing but play golf and hang out with guys in the clubhouse.

Manny's spending his early retirement playing baseball and hanging out with guys in the clubhouse ... how cool is that?
   30. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: May 26, 2014 at 07:28 PM (#4713655)
Manny always struck me as someone who could roll out of bed and rope a line drive. The fact that he THOUGHT he needed steroids was sort of sad to me.


Mark me down for the same. He had preternatural talent for hitting. At the same time, for a guy who did work so hard at his craft I'm not shocked that he was interested in anything that he thought might help him hit more- especially as he got older.

Manny's spending his early retirement playing baseball and hanging out with guys in the clubhouse ... how cool is that?


Yeah, as I've gotten older I'm more and more on the side of players determining when they want to be done with the sport they've played since they were kids. They can pick their time to leave, it's not going to diminish my memory of their prime. That's especially true as time goes on and we have video of their greatest performances that we can look back to and refresh our memories. I don't think of Pedro Martinez as struggling in 2008 after so many injuries, I remember him as Pedro of 1999-2001. That is at least in part because I can watch some of his starts from that season and see how amazing he was rather than relying upon memory.
   31. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 26, 2014 at 10:19 PM (#4713716)
Of course, if it was Hendry, it would have been a six-year contract.
   32. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: May 27, 2014 at 01:39 AM (#4713764)
21 - I believe that there are a handful every year, though they aren't usually this high profile (obviously). IIRC, the Cubs looked into doing that with Chirinos before he became a catcher.
   33. Walt Davis Posted: May 27, 2014 at 03:16 AM (#4713772)
Yeah, as I've gotten older I'm more and more on the side of players determining when they want to be done with the sport they've played since they were kids.

Agreed but not quite my point.

My point is that if some exec earns enough to retire at 50 and then spends his time on the golf course we wouldn't ask "he's so rich, why is he spending his time playing golf?!" We'd be jealous.*

Manny's a (semi-)retired guy playing baseball instead of golf.

*OK, I don't play golf and have no desire to and, if I could afford it, there'd be lots of stuff I'd rather do. But you know what I mean.
   34. Karl from NY Posted: May 27, 2014 at 05:05 PM (#4714139)
How common are minor league player-coaches? I think this is the first time I've seen that done.

I went to a LI Ducks doubleheader a few years ago. The first game was a blowout and they had a coach pitch mopup in the 9th. My friend and I thought he was a knuckleballer with the visibly slow pitch speed, then saw in the recap online that it had been a coach.
   35. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 27, 2014 at 05:49 PM (#4714159)
Manny has it all figured out. Good luck to him.

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