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Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Cubs sign Nady, Sheets to A’s

*throws chair, tears rotator cuff*

The Chicago Cubs have signed Xavier Nady to a one-year contract, SI.com has learned, while the Oakland A’s have signed Ben Sheets…

Sheets’ contract is for about $8 million, which is what he had been seeking.

The District Attorney Posted: January 26, 2010 at 06:07 PM | 149 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: January 26, 2010 at 09:13 PM (#3447042)
1. Rickey
2. Ellis
3. Hudson
4. Blankenship
5. Gallego
6. Mecir
...
n-2. Arthur Rhodes
n-1. Todd Van Poppel
n. Keith Foulke

EDIT: Oof. I forgot Chavez. He takes the number two spot for me.
   102. Khrushin it bro Posted: January 26, 2010 at 09:17 PM (#3447050)
I always liked Eric Plunk. Great pitching name and goofy look. Canseco was my favorite growing up and the guy who I wanted to get in a pack of baseball cards.

How about these prospect staches!
   103. A triple short of the cycle Posted: January 26, 2010 at 09:20 PM (#3447053)
How about these prospect staches!

In that photo, goofy Plunk looks just like all the hipsters in my neighborhood.
   104. Bourbon Samurai, what price fettucine? Posted: January 26, 2010 at 09:22 PM (#3447057)
Canseco was my least favorite A for some reason. I was even quite bullish on the Sierra-Russell-Witt trade. I think, even then, I just really enjoyed trades. My eleven year old self would have worshipped Billy Beane.
   105. Rich Rifkin Posted: January 26, 2010 at 09:40 PM (#3447084)
In contrast to A's fans, Giants fans -- by that, I mean real Giants fans, not the Pac Bell brie crowd -- are haters. And all Giants fans I know hated (to some degree) Johnnie LeMaster*. But the A's had their very own Johnnie LeMaster-lite in Rob Picciolo. No one hates (or hated) Picciolo and his 25 career walks. But he was essentially the same player (in half the times at plate): a very weak hitter who got way too many major league ABs because he was (perceived to be) an above average defensive middle-infielder.

Johnnie LeMaster -- 3515 PAs
Rob Picciolo -- 1720 PAs

Johnnie LeMaster -- 60 OPS+
Rob Picciolo -- 56 OPS+

Johnnie LeMaster -- .222 Avg
Rob Picciolo -- .234 Avg

Johnnie LeMaster -- .277 OBP
Rob Picciolo -- .246 OBP

Johnnie LeMaster -- .289 SLG
Rob Picciolo -- .312 SLG

*Marvin Benard hatred, I think, came close to LeMaster hatred. But it was not higher. Giants fans never booed Marvin when he stepped into the on-deck circle. When Johnnie returned for a reunion, everyone booed him walking out to shortstop in street clothes. In place of his name on the back of his jersey it read, "Boooo!"
   106. Khrushin it bro Posted: January 26, 2010 at 09:41 PM (#3447087)
Oh and this signing should at least get the A's onto the Transaction Oracle which is worth about 5 million Wolff dollars.
   107. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:07 PM (#3447111)
Nady is arguably the third best hitter on the Cubs now.


I'm not even sure he's the third best hitter in the OF

Nady's ZiPS projection is neck and neck with both Byrd and Soriano. Soriano has the low OBP and Byrd has somewhat severe home/road splits. Fukudome's numbers must be tempered by his sitting so much against LHPs. I'm not declaring Nady the third best hitter - I'm just pointing out the sad state of affairs where he is in the running.
   108. The District Attorney Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:08 PM (#3447114)
I always liked Eric Plunk. Great pitching name
Great pitcher, honestly. Well, "great" might be pushing it, but really darn good. 132 ERA+ in 722 innings from 1988-1996.
   109. The Suede-Denim Secret Police Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:10 PM (#3447117)
Least favorite A's? T-Long would have to top the list. Somewhere he picked up the nickname "Magellan" for the routes he used to take to fly balls. And then there was the 2003 ALDS. . . . Ben Grieve would also have to make the list for reasons previously mentioned. My "favorite" Grieve memory is from the 2000 (or maybe 2001) ALDS when Art Howe put on a hit-and-run with Grieve at the plate in order to stay of out the inevitable GIDP. Grieve preceded to line into a DP. That man had uncanny DP powers. Other candidates would include Canseco and Curt Young, whose inconsistency drove me crazy. Ironically, he's become a pretty good pitching coach. Sierra was horrible, but wasn't with the team long enough to leave a lasting impression.
   110. Charlie O Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:17 PM (#3447125)
Favorites: Rick Monday, Reggie Jackson, Catfish Hunter

Least favorites: Carney Lansford, Danny Cater, Jason Kendall
   111. Khrushin it bro Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:20 PM (#3447129)
My least favorites would include Jim Mecir during his bad pitching days (no knee cartilage). Also Dotel because the trade probably could have just gotten Beltran and Dotel always seemed to choke as a closer. Nothing like knowing your team will lose its lead when a guy gets called in from the pen.
   112. Spahn Insane Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:29 PM (#3447134)
That's a perfectly reasonable deal for Nady.

But is it cromulent?


I resisted the urge to use "cromulent" the first go-around. I have hopes this signing could be a little better than cromulent.
   113. Spahn Insane Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:30 PM (#3447137)
On the other hand, I'd gladly settle for mere cromulence out of Jeff Baker and Mike Fontenot.
   114. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM (#3447139)
Pads sign Jon Garland. Odd signing to say the least.
   115. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:35 PM (#3447146)
On the other hand, I'd gladly settle for mere cromulence out of Jeff Baker and Mike Fontenot.

It will take more than a noble spirit to embiggen little Mike Fontenot.
   116. JPWF13 Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:38 PM (#3447150)
And all Giants fans I know hated (to some degree) Johnnie LeMaster*


Living on the east coast and not being a Giants fan, here's my recollections of Johnny LeMaster
1: Batted leadoff one year, stole 30+ bases, Giants came to town, local mediots announced he was "good" leadoff man

2; LeMaster has public temper tantrum next year when he's demoted from leadoff to #8, demands to be traded... despite his 30+ steals the previous year, mediots find demand amusing- LeMaster was hitting .215...

3: Bill James uses LeMaster as a Brock2 test case, Brock2 "ends" LeMaster's career in about 100 additional PAs- James says Brock2 was wrong, it looks at leMAster and decides he's not good enough to play ML Baseball, and underrates the ability of [perceived] good glove no-hit middle infielders to continue playing

4; Brock2 was right- LeMaster had only 128 MLB PAs left

As Met fan, the guy I hated was Doug Flynn, unfortunately I must admit that my hatred was not universally shared by Mutt fans- some liked him and thought his glove justified his bat (or worse that his bat wasn't that bad) (Flynn fans were the forerunners of the later St Rey Rey fans)

1975-1987, 3000+ PAs:
Rk      Player      OPS+      PA      From      To
1     Doug Flynn     57     4085     1975     1985
2     Johnnie LeMaster     60     3515     1975     1987
3     Tom Veryzer     60     3016     1975     1984
4     Tim Foli     66     4665     1975     1985
5     Alfredo Griffin     71     5276     1976     1987
6     Julio Cruz     71     4437     1977     1986
7     Frank Taveras     72     4028     1975     1982
8     Rick Cerone     73     3402     1975     1987
9     Bucky Dent     73     4341     1975     1984
10     Tony Scott     74     3038     1975     1984 
   117. JPWF13 Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:39 PM (#3447151)
Pads sign Jon Garland. Odd signing to say the least.


Petco.... Garland's roto value just went up a couple of bucks
   118. aberg Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:43 PM (#3447154)
I always liked Terry Steinbach. Good A. Good Twin at the end of his career. I enjoyed cheering for that guy.
   119. Ken Arneson Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:48 PM (#3447163)
Dwayne Murphy would have had a lot more respect if he could have kept his hat on. :)

I once wrote a blog post about my 25 least favorite A's. Top (bottom?) three: Sierra, Long, Loaiza.

If I had to rewrite it now, Bobby Crosby would kick Jim Spencer off the list. The recurring theme with me is players who are clueless about how bad they are.
   120. Swedish Chef Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:51 PM (#3447169)
Pads sign Jon Garland. Odd signing to say the least.

What the hell did the union and MLB tell Florida that has all those other teams running scared?
   121. Khrushin it bro Posted: January 26, 2010 at 10:52 PM (#3447170)
Like: Steinbach and Carney (I probably thought they hit better than they did especially after Carney won the batting title)
Dislike: CROSBY!
   122. The Suede-Denim Secret Police Posted: January 26, 2010 at 11:14 PM (#3447190)
Bobby Crosby? Who's that? Never heard of him. Seriously, can we all just agree that that never happened? I suggest a Stalinist-style retouching of A's history to remove all references to Commissar Can't-Hit-a-Slider.
   123. Danny Posted: January 26, 2010 at 11:18 PM (#3447198)
Where's the hate for Emil Brown?
   124. JMM Posted: January 26, 2010 at 11:39 PM (#3447226)
My least favorites would include Jim Mecir during his bad pitching days (no knee cartilage).

Given his whole story, I just can't abide disliking Mecir. Not that I didn't hate seeing him pitch towards the end, but given that he had no knee cartilage and was born with club feet and couldn't walk or run without limping really severely even at his best Plus, he threw a ####### SCREWBALL, which we need a lot more of in baseball.

Crosby on the other hand: it's not merely that he failed to re-adjust to how pitchers had adjusted to him; it's that he defiantly resisted any and all attempts at being coached around his deficiencies. Not just uncoachable, but militantly uncoachable and proud of it.

I suggest a Stalinist-style retouching of A's history to remove all references to Commissar Can't-Hit-a-Slider.

No; we must never forget.
   125. A triple short of the cycle Posted: January 27, 2010 at 12:13 AM (#3447263)
Where's the hate for Emil Brown?

In my hazy short-term memory, Emil Brown, Jay Payton, and Scott Hairston were the same (mediocre) player.
   126. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: January 27, 2010 at 12:29 AM (#3447276)
Favorite A's -- Jose Canseco, Vida Blue and Rickey Henderson
Favorite A's for no good reason -- Marco Scutaro, Jose Rijo and Henry Rodriguez
Least favorite A's -- Arthur Rhodes, Ruben Sierra and Bobby Crosby

Oh..and $10M! Wow they had to double his payment to keep him away from the Mets. The Mets!
   127. Rich Rifkin Posted: January 27, 2010 at 12:41 AM (#3447281)
I have this feeling about Sheets ... He'll pitch okay for 3 months ... the A's will be within reach of first place but Beane decides it makes more sense to save the last $5 million .... so the A's trade him in a 3-way deal ... Sheets and $1.5 million cash goes to the Brewers ... Milwaukee sends Yovani Gallardo to the Blue Jays ... and Toronto sends Lyle Overbay and Brett Wallace to the A's ... and the A's send Chris Carter to Toronto.

And everyone goes, WTF?
   128. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 27, 2010 at 01:34 AM (#3447325)
So what does the A's rotation look like now?

Anderson/Cahill/Sheets/Duke/Braden?

Outman/Mazarro/Gonzalez in AAA

Assuming everyone makes it through spring training without getting hurt....a very big if.
   129. Ken Arneson Posted: January 27, 2010 at 02:09 AM (#3447343)
Outman is out, man, until at least the all-star break after Tommy John surgery. Assuming the very big if, Cahill and Gonzalez will probably fight for the fifth spot in spring training. Mazzaro is a notch below them.
   130. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: January 27, 2010 at 03:33 AM (#3447385)
As a Red Sox fan born and raised in the Bay Area who grew up at the Coliseum, Jay Payton is my all-time least favorite Athletic by a pretty wide margin. It got to the point where I was almost rooting against him even at A's/Yankees games.

EDIT: My God, I was reading Ken Arneson's blog post - I had no idea that Nelson Cruz was one of the guys the A's gave Milwaukee for Keith Ginter. Wow.
   131. GGIAS (aka Poster Nutbag) Posted: January 27, 2010 at 03:52 AM (#3447395)
All-Time Top 5 Faves: Huddy, Rickey!, Steinbach (I was a catcher in little league in those days), Eck, Stew

All-Time Top (Bottom?) 5 Least Faves: Dotel, Grieve, Prieto, Rhodes, Crosby

Honorable Mention: WALT WEISS!!!!! (LOVED him growing up!)

Dis-honorable Mention: T-Long
   132. theboyqueen Posted: January 27, 2010 at 04:04 AM (#3447401)
1. Rickey 2. Dwayne Murphy 3. Jason Giambi
-1. Jeremy Giambi -2. Ben Grieve -3. Billy Koch
   133. Khrushin it bro Posted: January 27, 2010 at 04:56 AM (#3447414)
Weiss!

This one was on my wall growing up. My parents sent some photos and Weiss McGwire and Canseco returned them.
   134. frannyzoo Posted: January 27, 2010 at 05:29 AM (#3447427)
I grew up a Rangers fan, and my 13 year-old mind obsessed about the hated 1974 A's ("we" surprisingly stuck around and ended up only 5 games back that year). I looked it up and my dislike for Reggie Jackson was warranted. He hit .338/.416/.815 vs. "us" that year. I know hating Reggie is nothing special, but I remember literally cringing every time he came to bat. And good quality baseball-induced cringing is never more pronounced than in a 13 year-old.

At the same time, I always liked most of the other A's, especially Campaneris and Paul Lindblad (who had been a Ranger in Year One). "Campy" was part of my general SS love at the time, as I was convinced I would go on to be a combination of Belanger, Kissinger, and Roger Metzger.
   135. The District Attorney Posted: January 27, 2010 at 06:37 AM (#3447447)
a combination of Belanger, Kissinger, and Roger Metzger
No power is the greatest aphrodisiac.
   136. OCF Posted: January 27, 2010 at 07:38 AM (#3447454)
10     Tony Scott     74     3038     1975     1984 


Tony Scott was a fast CF who stole bases. Did that make him Whitey Herzog's kind of player? No way. Herzog traded him off to the Astros for Joaquin Andujar, then turned around and traded Bob Sykes (a pitcher who was already done, have not accomplished anything in the first place) to the Yankees for Willie McGee. I'm pretty sure that Herzog knew that Scott was no good. (And trading him into the Astrodome didn't exactly help what little was left of his career.)

Never an A's fan - but I did know that Murphy was all the things you've been saying he was. And I certainly noticed the wonderfully weird statistical lines that Blankenship put up.
   137. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: January 27, 2010 at 08:43 AM (#3447465)
I'm also of recent vintage.

1. Mark Ellis
2. Chad Bradford
3. Jack Cust
.
.
.
n-3. Keith Foulke
n-2. Terrence Long
n-1. Jason Kendall (obviously)
   138. rfloh Posted: January 27, 2010 at 09:53 AM (#3447467)
1. Rickey
2. Swisher
3. Scutaro
4. Ellis
   139. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 27, 2010 at 10:28 AM (#3447468)
Rich:

Just a note. GM Doug Melvin has no use for Sheets. And the entire organization is in love with Gallardo. Barring a child molestation incident Yovani ain't going anywhere
   140. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: January 27, 2010 at 01:51 PM (#3447510)
Honestly, I loved Jason Kendall. From tagging people out with his face to his weak little ground-outs that caused me to claim in anger that I had slept with his wife, a huge fave of mine.


I laughed so hard at the second part that I just made it my status on Facebook.
   141. JoeHova Posted: January 27, 2010 at 02:18 PM (#3447517)
My God, I was reading Ken Arneson's blog post - I had no idea that Nelson Cruz was one of the guys the A's gave Milwaukee for Keith Ginter. Wow.

What's even worse is that the Brewers used him as a throw-in in a deal in order to convince the Rangers to give them Kevin Mench. God, I hated Kevin Mench.
   142. Iwakuma Chameleon (jonathan) Posted: January 27, 2010 at 08:26 PM (#3448011)
As a Red Sox fan born and raised in the Bay Area who grew up at the Coliseum



No offense, but this is disgusting.


Anyway I had already gone through the mental cleansing of Bobby Crosby from my mind. But he is, without a doubt, the worst Oakland Athletic ever. I will hear no argument to the contrary. Though Long does come close.


(And I don't feel bad about Cruz, it took him forever to put it together. It'd be like lamenting trading Carlos Pena or something.)
   143. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: January 27, 2010 at 08:39 PM (#3448026)
They shouldn't try to win what's considered a weak division?

In my opinion, the only people who think it's still a weak division are A's fans desperate for their team to be relevant once again.
   144. Iwakuma Chameleon (jonathan) Posted: January 27, 2010 at 09:10 PM (#3448071)
In my opinion, the only people who think it's still a weak division are A's fans desperate for their team to be relevant once again.



Oh buzz off, guy.
   145. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: January 27, 2010 at 09:18 PM (#3448079)
Oh buzz off, guy.

Not going to happen. Every year I read the same nonsensical claptrap from you guys, and meanwhile the division has gotten stronger at the same time that your team has gotten weaker.
   146. Rich Rifkin Posted: January 27, 2010 at 09:57 PM (#3448127)
It's not a weak division. The AL West is a tight division. The one team which clearly had enough talent at the end of 2009 to win 90+ games no longer does. Oakland, Seattle and Texas all have reason to think they will be better in 2010. Because of the unbalanced schedule, that might not happen for all 3, depending on how far Anaheim falls.

It looks to me reasonable to predict that no one in the ALW wins more than 90 games and no one wins fewer than 80. But that kind of thing probably won't happen. Injuries will make someone drop off and lose at least 85. Nonetheless, here is my call:

OAK 88-74 --
TEX 86-76 2 GB
SEA 84-78 4 GB
ANA 80-81 7.5 GB*

*In my made up standings, the Angels lost one game due to the severe wild fires in So. California which caused the air to be toxic. That one lost game spoiled the chance for a division for the first time to have every team finish .500 or better. ... oh yeah, and the rally monkey died of emphysema.
   147. Iwakuma Chameleon (jonathan) Posted: January 28, 2010 at 03:09 AM (#3448416)
Not going to happen. Every year I read the same nonsensical claptrap from you guys, and meanwhile the division has gotten stronger at the same time that your team has gotten weaker.


You offer nothing to any A's thread except as some self proclaimed straight man. You are, in every sense of the word, useless to these conversations. So why continue to bother entering and reading? Just to put us stupid A's fans in line? That how you get your kicks?

Nothing you've said leads me to think you warrant any response other than "piss off."


edit: Moreover, I'm sick of the A's serving as some sort of punching bag for every Tom, Dick, and Harry that had a problem with Moneyball. Go plague some other team already.
   148. Khrushin it bro Posted: January 28, 2010 at 04:12 AM (#3448434)
OAK 88-74


So Sheets arm doesn't fall off and Carter + Taylor = Blash Brothers. I'm with ya!
   149. Rich Rifkin Posted: January 28, 2010 at 04:47 AM (#3448444)
I'm with ya!
I love to have you with me AKT. You can handle things! You're smart! Not like everybody says… like dumb… You're smart and you want respect!

The A's had an 81-81 P-record in 2009. So I have them winning just 7 more games than that. Is that terribly unreasonable? No.

Here's how you get 7 more wins:

1. Ben Sheets + Justin Duchscherer = 2 more wins. Sheets is a front-line starter who I think should give the A's 150 innings. Duchscherer was a very good pitcher, also coming off injury. One of these two will hold up and improve the team.

2. Brett Anderson = 2 more wins. He's a front-line starter who was 21 last season. He pitched 175.33 innings in 2009 and should be good for about 200 IP in 2010.

3. Trevor Cahill + Gio Gonzalez = 1 more win. Trevor was 21 last year and Geo was 23. They are talented young pitchers who should get better.

4. Vin Mazzaro + Dallas Braden = 0 more wins. These two are also young and talented, but I expect them to pitch fewer innings in the majors.

5. The Bullpen = 0 more wins. The bullpen was really awesome last year. I expect some regression to the mean, but not so much that it will cost a win.

6. Team defense = 2 more wins. The A's team defense was not very good last year. However, the outfield should be strong with Davis, Sweeney and some Coco Crisp and Jake Fox and less Jack Cust. The infield will improve at the corners (in part just not having Giambi) and will stay the same at 2B but get a bit better at SS (without Cabrera).

7. The rookies = 0 more wins. Who really knows what you're going to get out of Chris Carter or Michael Taylor.

8. Infield offense = 1 more win. They should get better production at 1B, 2B and SS. I don't know what to expect from Miles; I don't know how much he plays. Kouzmanoff should be about equal to what they got last year at 3B.

9. Outfield offense = 1 less win. The loss of Holliday would be worth 2 losses if he had been with the A's all year. As it is, his absence means 1 less win.
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