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Wednesday, May 21, 2014

D-backs’ GM Kevin Towers: ‘I don’t want to be a pseudo-GM’

For Towers, right now it’s business as usual and he’s hoping his duties and responsibilities don’t change much.

“I certainly don’t want to be a pseudo-GM,” he said. “The front office role will be new to him and I’m hoping I can help him too, like the daily calendar and what’s important in June and July. These are some of the good players in our system—no different from what Jerry Dipoto did for me in my first year here.

“I’m hoping that we help one another and as we get to talk that he’ll have the confidence in the very near future to let me run the club as I have been but everything will go through him and be shared with him. You’d like to think that our vision and everything is on the same page.”

shoewizard Posted: May 21, 2014 at 07:29 PM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: May 21, 2014 at 09:50 PM (#4711212)
The sad bleat of a man who knows he's about to pushed out of the Moon Door.
   2. Lassus Posted: May 21, 2014 at 10:50 PM (#4711244)
Well done.
   3. Tripon Posted: May 21, 2014 at 11:07 PM (#4711256)
MOON DOOR.
   4. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: May 21, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4711257)
HO DOR.
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 21, 2014 at 11:37 PM (#4711270)
‘I don’t want to be a pseudo-GM’


Well, it's your own fault, Kev. Like Justin Upton, you just weren't gritty enough.
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:05 AM (#4711279)
M-O-O-N spells Hodor.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:20 AM (#4711286)
What did I miss? Who's "he"?
   8. Tripon Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM (#4711289)
7. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:20 AM (#4711286)
What did I miss? Who's "he"

Tony LaRussa. He got hired to run baseball ops for the D'Backs, so of course Kevin Towers is talking his mouth off trying to save his job.
   9. theboyqueen Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:31 AM (#4711293)
The front office role will be new to him and I’m hoping I can help him too, like the daily calendar and what’s important in June and July


So he doesn't want to be a pseudo-GM; he wants to be Tony LaRussa's secretary.
   10. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 22, 2014 at 01:06 AM (#4711305)
D-backs’ GM Kevin Towers: ‘I don’t want to be a pseudo-GM’

Tony La Russa: "Good, because now you're a former pseudo-GM."
   11. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: May 22, 2014 at 01:54 AM (#4711308)
I know Towers has made plenty of mistakes as a GM, but he did build some good Padres teams. He had a pretty good knack for trades, especially looking at the '07 team, with key players like Adrian Gonzalez, Heath Bell, and Chris Young acquired from other clubs. More recently, The Upton trade was not good, and how the Diamondbacks seemingly cornered themselves into making the deal with an endless stream of public comments about the negotiations was pretty weird. How different would history be if San Diego drafted Verlander and paired him with Peavy? Towers would be remembered differently, I imagine, and I do believe selecting Bush was partly guided by ownership preference. His tenure with the Diamondbacks has definitely been less impressive.
   12. JE (Jason) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 03:18 AM (#4711313)
The sad bleat of a man who knows he's about to pushed out of the Moon Door.

Come now, who goes quietly out the Moon Door lest they're already dead? A more apt anology would be those prisoners and/or Flea Bottom princes who Ser Gregor was chopping to pieces last Sunday.
   13. valuearbitrageur Posted: May 22, 2014 at 04:52 AM (#4711316)
his tenure with the diamondbacks has definitely been less impressive

Pitch       # pitches     Avg. Velocity       Strikes
Fastball       41              97.2             63%


Games     BA       OBP      SLG      OPS   OPS+
 
105     .249     .330     .368     .698    93 


The next Derek Jeter languishes in AAA.
   14. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 08:33 AM (#4711334)
Too late, you've bben a pseudo-GM for years.
   15. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:25 AM (#4711355)
Come now, who goes quietly out the Moon Door lest they're already dead?
I'm thinking in particular of a certain someone at the end of last Sunday's episode.
   16. Lassus Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:33 AM (#4711365)
I'm thinking in particular of a certain someone at the end of last Sunday's episode.

I actually did notice that there were a distinct pair of audible differences from the book's portrayal of that scene and the series'.
   17. JE (Jason) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:39 AM (#4711369)
I actually did notice that there were a distinct pair of audible differences from the book's portrayal of that scene and the series'.

Right. We did hear that certain somebody scream. Even in the book, however, there wasn't sufficient time for the individual to prepare for what was coming.
   18. Nasty Nate Posted: May 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4711388)

I actually did notice that there were a distinct pair of audible differences from the book's portrayal of that scene and the series'


"Only Jim Kaat"
   19. Jeltzandini Posted: May 22, 2014 at 10:38 AM (#4711389)
General Meade retains command of the Army of the Potomac and looks forward to working more closely with General Grant.
   20. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM (#4711432)
On the other hand, if he was a sudo-GM, he could make moves that regular GMs wouldn't have the ability to.
   21. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:28 PM (#4711446)
$ sudo chown -R 'ktowers' /*
   22. Ron J2 Posted: May 22, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4711449)
#19 (Not a Craig C thread so I'm not sure that Civil War digressions are permitted) The difference here being that Grant quickly and publicly backed Meade as commander of the Army of the Potomac.

Though if the point you were making is that there was plenty of awkwardness in the structure in the east, it's a valid point. Grant never gave direct orders to any of Meade's subordinates, just did the same kind of thing Halleck was supposed to do -- set overall policy -- from Meade's HQ rather than from Washington. (Having Burnside attached to the Army of the Potomac made things even more awkward in that he was senior to Meade. Burnside doesn't seem to have been touchy about the matter but Meade was.)

Of course policy orders coming directly from Meade's HQ left Grant in effective strategic command of the Army of the Potomac. Which would I guess be the point from Towers' point of view. He's always had to answer to people higher up in the chain, but if LaRussa is more involved in setting direction and uses his veto power frequently, Towers will be a GM in name only.
   23. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: May 22, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4711636)
Is there anyone here who is an especial critic of Grant's generalship, particularly in 1864? Rather than criticizing him as a butcher, I'm wondering what decisions you felt Grant *should* have made in the Overland Campaign that were more likely to end the war?
   24. valuearbitrageur Posted: May 22, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4711678)
Looks like BBRef's draft history is inaccurate. How did we draft Didi Gregorious with our 3rd pick?

2011 Draft
3 Arizona Diamondbacks Trevor Bauer P UCLA (Col.)
4 Baltimore Orioles Dylan Bundy P Owasso High School (HS)
5 Kansas City Royals Bubba Starling OF Gardner-Edgerton High School (HS)
6 Washington Nationals Anthony Rendon 3B Rice University (Col.)
7 Arizona Diamondbacks Archie Bradley P Broken Arrow High School (HS)
8 Cleveland Indians Francisco Lindor SS Montverde Academy (HS)
9 Chicago Cubs Javier Baez SS Arlington Country Day School (HS)
10 San Diego Padres Cory Spangenberg 2B Indian River State College (Col.)
11 Houston Astros George Springer OF University of Connecticut (Col.)
12 Milwaukee Brewers Taylor Jungmann P University of Texas (Col.)
13 New York Mets Brandon Nimmo OF Cheyenne East High School (HS)
14 Florida Marlins Jose Fernandez P Braulio Alonso High School (HS)
15 Milwaukee Brewers Jed Bradley P Georgia Tech (Col.)
16 Los Angeles Dodgers Chris Reed P Stanford University (Col.)
17 Los Angeles Angels Chris Cron, Jr. 1B University of Utah (Col.)
18 Oakland Athletics Sonny Gray P Vanderbilt University (Col.)
19 Boston Red Sox Matt Barnes P University of Connecticut (Col.)
20 Colorado Rockies Tyler Anderson P University of Oregon (Col.)
21 Toronto Blue Jays Tyler Beede P Lawrence Academy at Groton (HS)
22 St. Louis Cardinals Kolten Wong 2B University of Hawaii (Col.)


   25. Ron J2 Posted: May 22, 2014 at 04:25 PM (#4711686)
#23 Well he knew what he was getting with Butler and thought that by giving him Smith as his senior corps commander he could manage. But the joint (in) actions of Smith and Butler prevented Petersburg from being grabbed. At the time probably only Hancock was held in higher esteem than Smith among Union corps commanders, but the mix of Smith and Butler didn't work out. Beregard held off a small army with what amounted to a reinforced brigade long enough for Lee to get back in position.

He also didn't make a good initial choice for command in the Valley. The eventual choice of Sheridan was inspired though. What's more, he gave Sheridan enough troops (including the 6th Corps -- his best unit) to destroy Early, unlike earlier commanders who tried to get by with the bare minimum there.

After the attempt to seize Petersburg failed there really wasn't much that could be done quickly. They were functionally in a siege situation.
   26. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2014 at 05:57 PM (#4711741)
Oh yeah. I thought that was just somebody giving TLR a sinecure position. Did the DBacks really hire LaRussa to run the team? Yikes. Sounds like frying pan to fire to me.
   27. valuearbitrageur Posted: May 22, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4711790)
Oh yeah. I thought that was just somebody giving TLR a sinecure position. Did the DBacks really hire LaRussa to run the team? Yikes. Sounds like frying pan to fire to me.


Fire is evil, but canny.

Frying pan is as dumb as a frying pan.

We'll roll the dice with evil.
   28. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 07:25 PM (#4711804)
It seems like Ambrose Burnside was a hard working, gregarious and basically nice guy who, through a series of circumstances little fault of his own, found himself grotesquely overpromoted and overmatched. Hell of a division commander, if they'd just left him there, but that wasn't how things worked. Who would you compare him to... Grady Little?

On the Confederate side, Jackson and Longstreet were both spectacularly good corps commanders who both would likely have been disasters had they found themselves in command of the whole army.
   29. Publius Publicola Posted: May 22, 2014 at 08:39 PM (#4711835)
Zeth, that's exactly the way Grant described Meade in his memoir.

He also said Meade had a difficult, quarrelsome personality that made him unsuitable for overall command but was a very capable officer when given a field command and clear objectives. Grays command arrangement worked quite well.

Larry, snapper still buys the "butcher" label but nobody else does except Daughters of the Confederacy historians who can't bear the thought their ancestors were defeated by a superior military leadership. It's one of those historical conceits that seem to get ingrained in peoples who think they are better than they really are.
   30. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:25 PM (#4711855)
I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call it superior leadership; it's just that it took the Union a while to find a commander who both understood how to leverage the Union's advantages and had the stomach to do so, and to move obstructive ######## out of his way. I'm not sure to what extent that really made him Lee's superior as a general.

I still go back and forth on whether Lee was an idiot for invading Pennsylvania or if it was the only realistic thing he could do because (a) Once Vicksburg was lost the eventual Confederate defeat became a when, not an if, and (b) contrary to popular Confederate belief, the Union was *not* going to give up and go away if the Confederates just continued to sit in Virginia and fight off their attacks.

Either way, so far as I can see the war was irretrievably lost for the Confederates on July 2, 1863 when Lee awoke and looked up at the Union army dug in on Cemetery Hill. I can't fathom any way for the Confederates to salvage it after that. Lee's actions thereafter suggest he understood this quite well.
   31. Publius Publicola Posted: May 22, 2014 at 09:33 PM (#4711856)
Grant understood better than Lee how military and political objectives were intertwined. Lees forays into the North accomplished nothing except hastening his own demise. He should have known better and guarded his resources more preciously.

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