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Sunday, March 31, 2013

OTP: April 2013: Daily Caller: Baseball and the GOP: To rebrand the party, think like a sports fan

This week’s GOP autopsy report, commissioned by RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, is a great start in the much-needed task of rebranding the Republican Party. As the chairman acknowledged, “the way we communicate our principles isn’t resonating widely enough” and “we have to be more inclusive.” The report contains 219 recommendations to “connect people to our principles.” To achieve that goal, the party will need a strategic vision of how voters think about politics, which is something that the report lacks. For that, the GOP can learn a lot from another American passion: baseball.

This year, about 75 million Americans will go to the baseball stadium to watch a ballgame, about the same number as those who will vote in next year’s election. We rarely think about why someone becomes a baseball fan, or why they root for a certain team. Nor do we usually think about why someone chooses to vote for a certain political party. But it’s actually a very useful exercise.

When it comes to baseball, fan loyalty has almost nothing to do with the brain, and almost everything to do with the heart. In all of history, there’s never been a baseball fan who rooted for his team because it had the lowest ticket prices, or because it had the most taxpayer-friendly stadium deal, or because its players did the most community service. For the vast majority of Americans, rooting for a baseball team — not to mention, voting for a political party — isn’t really a rational choice; it’s more of a statement of personal identity — a statement telling the world, “This is who I am.” And for most people, defining “who I am” starts with family and community, before branching out into areas like race, age, gender, and class.

Family is pretty straightforward. If your mom and dad are Yankee fans, you’re almost certainly a Yankee fan. The same is true in politics. If your mom and dad are Republicans, you’re almost certainly a Republican.

Community is also pretty straightforward. If you grew up in, say, Philadelphia, chances are pretty great you’re a Phillies fan. Likewise, someone who grew up in Republican territory like, say, suburban Dallas or rural Indiana is much more likely to become a Republican than a nearly identical person from Seattle or Santa Fe.

Cities with more than one baseball team, like New York or Chicago, show revealing breakdowns by race and gender. The racial split in Chicago between Cubs fans on the North Side and White Sox fans on the South Side is well-documented. In New York, there’s an intriguing gender gap between Mets and Yankee fans, with women gravitating a lot more to the Yanks. While there’s a few theories out there trying to explain that, one obvious answer leaps out: Yankees heartthrob Derek Jeter.

In sports, as in politics, people’s convictions can’t be conveniently reduced to who their parents are or what they look like. But those things are an important foundation, upon which more rational sentiments come into being. Once you’re attached to your team on an emotional level — seeing them as a personal reflection of who you are and what you care about most — a rational exterior comes into being through phrases like “the Red Sox are the best team because they have the most heart” or “the Republicans are the best party because they know how to create jobs.”

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   3701. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:01 AM (#4418903)
Holy ####! Tripathi is one of the bombers! YOU SEE RANTS THE IVY LEAGUE REALLY IS CONSPIRING TO BLOW YOU UP YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG.
   3702. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:02 AM (#4418904)
This is all happening a couple miles from my apartment.
   3703. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:04 AM (#4418905)
I cannot believe that a renegade student from Brown bombed the Boston marathon and is in the middle of a Bonnie & Clyde style rampage through Watertown. Not because smart people from elite schools are incapable of violence, but because I've never seen anyone who went to Brown do anything competently, let alone build a functioning bomb.
   3704. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:04 AM (#4418906)
I don't know how accurate these tweets are, but reading them is like crack.
   3705. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:05 AM (#4418907)
I'm using: https://twitter.com/dannysullivan/watertown

I should've been asleep hours ago...

And, uh, stay safe Scott!
   3706. greenback calls it soccer Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:06 AM (#4418908)
My twitter feed has multiple people retweeting multiple other people listening to police scanners. And a couple of people talking about Project Runway. It's kind of weird!

The three most recent AP tweets are on the MIT shooting, the Watertown confrontation, and Derek Jeter's ankle.
   3707. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:07 AM (#4418909)
People are saying the names went out over the scanner. I heard one of them, but I didn't hear tripathi's name. Possible I just missed it, though.
   3708. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:09 AM (#4418910)
Can someone fill me in on who the missing student is? Who the dead guy is? I mean, I know he's a suspect, but is there anything else on these guys?
   3709. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:09 AM (#4418911)
Foot chase in progress now apparently
   3710. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:10 AM (#4418912)
Tripathi is a Brown student who disappeared a month ago, chronic depression, etc.
   3711. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:10 AM (#4418913)
   3712. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:11 AM (#4418916)
Oh I'm in Medford, they'd have to take a crazy route to get to get to me. I'm not worried, just weird is all, I pass through Kendall/MIT on my way to work every day and my favorite Sushi place is in Watertown.

I'm taking a vacation day tomorrow.

   3713. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:11 AM (#4418917)
Missing student.

Edit: semi coke.
   3714. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:12 AM (#4418918)
Scanner says they are bringing in a K9 unit
   3715. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:13 AM (#4418919)
The networks are so behind on this story. On the other hand, CNN does have footage of a naked dude being arrested. So there's that.
   3716. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:14 AM (#4418920)
This kid is like a ####### ninja.
   3717. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:15 AM (#4418921)
Scanner says "No foot pursuit" now.
   3718. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:16 AM (#4418922)
The networks are so behind on this story. On the other hand, CNN does have footage of a naked dude being arrested. So there's that.


Yeah, this story is about as "boots on the ground" as it gets, and that's what the national networks don't really have.
   3719. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:16 AM (#4418923)
Other name was mike mulugeta. Someone with that twitter handled posted 5 days ago: "You have enemies, good because that means you stood up for something" ... but they don't look like the picture I saw of him.
Also, it's been said that brown found and disposed of an explosive device on campus after tripathi left
   3720. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:17 AM (#4418924)
He's going to be caught. People know his face and the authorities know his general vicinity. This isn't The Fugitive.
   3721. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:18 AM (#4418925)
There is some back and forth on whether Mulugeta is the second suspect or just tangentially involved in this evening's mayhem somehow.
   3722. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:19 AM (#4418926)
Yeah, this story is about as "boots on the ground" as it gets, and that's what the national networks don't really have.

You'd think they could at least listen to the police scanner like the rest of us.
   3723. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:20 AM (#4418928)
There is some back and forth on whether Mulugeta is the second suspect or just tangentially involved in this evening's mayhem somehow.

Any names have to be considered incredibly unreliable at this point.
   3724. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:21 AM (#4418929)
Just walked in from a laaaate gig but I can't stop listening/watching.
   3725. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:22 AM (#4418930)
He's going to be caught. People know his face and the authorities know his general vicinity. This isn't The Fugitive.


Well of course, but you can't just "catch" him, because he's clearly going to go down swinging.
   3726. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:23 AM (#4418931)
Any names have to be considered incredibly unreliable at this point.


This times a thousand. We should have learned this by now, come on.
   3727. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:23 AM (#4418932)
Seems like a lot of activity at Arsenal Mall. Lots of requests for any available officers and they seem to have set up a CP.
   3728. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:24 AM (#4418933)
Well of course, but you can't just "catch" him, because he's clearly going to go down swinging.


Identifying his lead-ridden corpse counts.

eta: of course, it's vastly better if he can be taken alive, stand trial, and be sentenced to life in a box to grow old and realize what he's done. I don't get why people think the death penalty is the harsher punishment. If someone has any humanity, they'll spend their whole lives regretting their actions in a box, and it'll be cheaper than killing them.
   3729. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:27 AM (#4418935)
You'd think they could at least listen to the police scanner like the rest of us.


You gotta have more than just the police scanner for tv, though. There's a lot of noise there.
   3730. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:27 AM (#4418936)
names unreliable: oh sure!
That said - he sure looks like the guy from the pic.

The only thing I'd seen about Tripathi was a YouTube video by his friends and family, wishing he was back home. It was sweet and remembering it makes me (potentially) very sad for them.
   3731. greenback calls it soccer Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:29 AM (#4418937)
Any names have to be considered incredibly unreliable at this point.

True enough but the "find Trapathi" Facebook page apparently has been deleted.
   3732. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:29 AM (#4418938)
Identifying his lead-ridden corpse counts.

eta: of course, it's vastly better if he can be taken alive, stand trial, and be sentenced to life in a box to grow old and realize what he's done. I don't get why people think the death penalty is the harsher punishment. If someone has any humanity, they'll spend their whole lives regretting their actions in a box, and it'll be cheaper than killing them.


What I mean is, he's getting the DP regardless. He's got explosives. I think you have to consider him a suicide bomber. I wouldn't want to be the cop(s) taking him into custody.
   3733. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:31 AM (#4418939)
he's getting the DP regardless.


Well, that goes to my comment about what's harsher. But you're right, that is one scary suspect for the cops to be taking into custody. If he blows himself up, I hope he only blows up himself, and if the police feel he's a deadly threat they should gun him down.
   3734. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:33 AM (#4418940)
Cache of Facebook page, complete with message of sympathy for Marathon-bombing victims. This is all crushingly bizarre.
   3735. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:36 AM (#4418941)
NBC just played about one minute of footage taken by a neighbor down the street that included 70 to 80 gunshots.
   3736. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:37 AM (#4418942)
Media gathering at Target near Arsenal mall.
   3737. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:37 AM (#4418943)
Cache of Facebook page, complete with message of sympathy for Marathon-bombing victims. This is all crushingly bizarre.


If that's the guy, I feel so horrible for his family. They must have been thinking he was dead, and this is one of the only ways his coming back to life could be worse than him being dead.
   3738. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:42 AM (#4418945)
Cache of Facebook page, complete with message of sympathy for Marathon-bombing victims. This is all crushingly bizarre.


If that's the guy, I feel so horrible for his family. They must have been thinking he was dead, and this is one of the only ways his coming back to life could be worse than him being dead.


I was just going to post about this. I can't imagine that family. Going from thinking their son killed himself or ran off to join a cult or something to finding out he apparently bombed a public gathering, killing an 8 year old. And now he's killed a cop and is the subject of a manhunt and could be gunned down at any minute.

Wasn't there something about a note he left in his room when he disappeared. I wonder what that said...
Law enforcement refused to talk about the contents of the note right? Maybe something suspicious?
   3739. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:44 AM (#4418946)
Boston.com's livefeed is reporting that the police have set a perimeter, and will be doing house to house searches in Watertown. I'm glad I decided to live closer to the Davis T stop than the Alewife T stop.
   3740. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:44 AM (#4418947)
@marynmck: scanner: we are going to wait til daylight, advantage to us, and go house to house.
   3741. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:45 AM (#4418948)
1st suspect dead according to WCVB
   3742. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:46 AM (#4418949)
Yeah, I have very little sympathy for the actual person no matter their mental health issues but for the family... ugh, nothing but sympathy. Simply horrific.
   3743. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:49 AM (#4418950)
Setting up a perimeter and waiting for daylight says the scanner
   3744. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:49 AM (#4418951)
I just got a groupon via email for a restaurant in Watertown.
   3745. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:50 AM (#4418952)
I was just going to post about this. I can't imagine that family. Going from thinking their son killed himself or ran off to join a cult or something to finding out he apparently bombed a public gathering, killing an 8 year old. And now he's killed a cop and is the subject of a manhunt and could be gunned down at any minute.


Agreed, I'm one of the least empathetic people around but that poor family. I can't imagine anything crueler - it gives me a chill just to imagine.
   3746. spike Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:51 AM (#4418954)
I gotta get some sleep.
   3747. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:54 AM (#4418955)
Reports mixed on when they'll search. Package about to be detonated by bomb squad.
   3748. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:55 AM (#4418956)
They are calling in tactical bears. I would like a tactical bear (or even a strategic one).
   3749. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:57 AM (#4418957)
Why haven't we domesticated bears? They're the best mix of cute and ferocious next to wolves.

Oh.
   3750. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 19, 2013 at 03:58 AM (#4418958)
A SWAT team is moving to a building where "multiple motion detectors have gone off."
   3751. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:00 AM (#4418959)
Imagine if the OJ chase happened in the Twitter era.
   3752. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:01 AM (#4418960)
Decoy bears are what I want here - raid the zoo!
Cambridge cops are investigating a suspicious package too.
@LukeRussert: NBC's Kerry Sanders: 2 SWAT teams outside a building where they believe 2nd suspect could be
   3753. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:01 AM (#4418961)
I really hope these guys are the perpetrators of the marathon bombing. I know it seems unlikely that they weren't, but holy #### I already wanted closure to this thing before tonight.
   3754. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:03 AM (#4418962)
Imagine if the OJ chase happened in the Twitter era.


Honestly? The OJ chase was easy. He was on live TV. This is vastly worse, it's the dead of night with literally hundreds of sources reporting information.
   3755. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:04 AM (#4418963)
The scene in Watertown. Commuters should plan accordingly.


My favorite tweet of the night.
   3756. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:05 AM (#4418964)
Imagine if the OJ chase happened in the Twitter era.

No kidding. It's also kind of crazy that you have a giant pack of media running around essentially chasing a crazed, bomb-throwing gunman.
   3757. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:05 AM (#4418965)
I wonder how much of the property damage is covered by insurance?
   3758. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:07 AM (#4418966)
Somebody's made this gif of Sunil Tripathi (the missing Brown student) and one of today's FBI photos.
   3759. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:08 AM (#4418968)
BPD comish is saying that the first suspect is dead.
   3760. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:09 AM (#4418969)
Oh damn, I guess they killed that first suspect.
   3761. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:10 AM (#4418970)
Died at the hospital, yeah
   3762. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:11 AM (#4418971)
https://twitter.com/watertowntab is the local paper.
   3763. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:12 AM (#4418972)
The local scanners are here.
   3764. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:14 AM (#4418974)
It's also kind of crazy that you have a giant pack of media running around essentially chasing a crazed, bomb-throwing gunman.


Only in America!

Well, ok, only in countries with well developed media outlets!
   3765. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:15 AM (#4418975)
Photo of suspect.

Well, at least this goes to show it's really hard to get away with terrorism these days.
   3766. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:18 AM (#4418976)
@MichaelSkolnik: there are over 9000 cops looking for suspect # 2
   3767. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:19 AM (#4418977)
9000 vs. 1. I'm sure they'll find him when daylight breaks, if not sooner.
   3768. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:19 AM (#4418978)
@New York Post: there are over 54,000 cops looking for suspect #12
   3769. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:19 AM (#4418979)
   3770. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:21 AM (#4418980)
3768 - I lolled
   3771. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:21 AM (#4418981)
Me too. That was worth a chuckle.

eta: Press conference over. Suspect 1 (black hat) dead, Suspect 2 (white hat) armed and dangerous in a 20 block area of Watertown (if he has any integrity he'll make his way to the Watertown RMV and blow himself up)
   3772. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:25 AM (#4418982)
Man, I want to hear what the guy who got carjacked heard (was w them for 30 min).
   3773. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:26 AM (#4418983)
Yeah, me too! That'd give me a lot of white hairs.
   3774. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:30 AM (#4418984)
   3775. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:31 AM (#4418985)
I am so glad we're going to catch this ######. The only thing keeping me from a victory dance is the worry that he'll kill or harm more people.

RUN ###### RUN ###### RUN ######.
   3776. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:34 AM (#4418986)
Apparently the first guy had some sort of explosive vest on that detonated when he was captured.
   3777. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:37 AM (#4418987)
These are some #### terrorists if they couldn't cap a hostage they carjacked.
   3778. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:43 AM (#4418988)
   3779. BrianBrianson Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:45 AM (#4418989)

If you want to think even less of him, re-watch the UN presentation. You couldn't convict a recidivist junkie of burglary with the 'evidence' Powell presented. Watch him wave at an indeciperhable photo mounted on an easal while mouthing meaningless generalities as though it actually proved something. In all seriousness, never mind that Powell was a General pushing for a major war, but imagine instead that he was a plaintiff's attorney whose job was to show merely a preponderance of evidence in favor of his client's case. He failed, and failed badly.


There was an absolutely brilliant bit about it at the time on This Hour Has 22 Minutes, which shows how the left actually took it. I can't believe I can't find it online.
   3780. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 04:47 AM (#4418990)
82,000 people listening to the police scanner. Hope nobody gets performance anxiety.

eta: wait, that's just one easy to access feed. the real number is way higher.
   3781. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 19, 2013 at 05:17 AM (#4418993)
It's also kind of crazy that you have a giant pack of media running around essentially chasing a crazed, bomb-throwing gunman.

Provided without comment.
   3782. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 05:23 AM (#4418995)
Edit: nope, I'm just tired and drunk, suspect 1 is still dead, and white cap is still at large.
   3783. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 05:41 AM (#4418998)
Supposedly they're calling for a negotiator now.
   3784. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 05:42 AM (#4418999)
MBTA is shut down. I have a guess why these ####### hadn't run off to the wilds of maine yet.
   3785. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 05:44 AM (#4419000)
I honestly think they didn't believe they could be picked out of the big crowds. They probably thought they were completely anonymous in any photos, seriously underestimating the amount of video coverage and photos of the area from the public and from store cameras. I also read that the guy whose legs were blown off made a positive ID on the guy who dropped the bomb by him as soon as he woke from anesthesia. They seem to lack Common sense I think. Didn't seem to have any escape plan, just panicked today when the pics were released.
   3786. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 05:50 AM (#4419001)
Well, I was guessing if the MBTA was shut down that the police feared a subway bombing.

I mean, from 7:30am until 9am pretty much every single inbound train is packed.

But your hypothesis that they were stupid terrorists holds a lot of water.
   3787. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 06:20 AM (#4419003)
They've shut down the ferry, too. I'm guessing this is based off of things found in Cambridge belonging to the suspects.
   3788. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 06:21 AM (#4419005)
I think they just want to avoid potential hostage situations with a violent suspect at large.
   3789. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 06:23 AM (#4419006)
Damn, looking like a false alarm from police scanner.
   3790. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 06:30 AM (#4419007)
No, they definitely have the 2nd suspect in Watertown, which has no MBTA connection.
   3791. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 06:34 AM (#4419008)
There's still a chance he slipped the perimeter in the dark of night. Perhaps slim, but they can't rule it out.
   3792. NTNgod Posted: April 19, 2013 at 06:44 AM (#4419012)
AP is tweeting suspects are from Chechnya and have been in US for a year

Guy on the run is Dzhokhar Tsarnaev of Cambridge. Dead guy is his brother.
   3793. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 06:47 AM (#4419013)
That's an interesting twist. So the resemblance to Sunil Tripathi was purely coincidental?
   3794. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 06:55 AM (#4419015)
Seems like the MBTA shutdown might be due to other concerns, now.
   3795. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 07:32 AM (#4419024)
This is still going on? Damn - really hoped that there would've been closure.

@russnelligan: Kathy Curran sources say Suspect2 ran over Suspect1 with a car as he fled. Suspect1 already had fatal gunshot wounds #wcvb
   3796. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 07:39 AM (#4419027)
Ran over his own brother on his rush to flee the scene. Wow.
   3797. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 07:51 AM (#4419032)
Who knows? There's some contradictory stuff out there - and all attempts at specifics seem to get peeled back, given time.
   3798. Joey B. "disrespects the A" Posted: April 19, 2013 at 07:53 AM (#4419033)
AP is tweeting suspects are from Chechnya and have been in US for a year.

Yep, it looks like the prayers of the red diaper doper babies aren't going to be answered; they're not American conservative Christians. Sorry, pinkos.
   3799. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 07:55 AM (#4419034)
Yep, it looks like the prayers of the red diaper doper babies aren't going to be answered; they're not American conservative Christians. Sorry, pinkos.


I really think there is something wrong in your head.
   3800. Lassus Posted: April 19, 2013 at 07:58 AM (#4419035)
Yep, it looks like the prayers of the red diaper doper babies aren't going to be answered; they're not American conservative Christians. Sorry, pinkos.

Communists are atheists. Who the hell are they praying to, moron?


I really think there is something wrong in your head.

He's just a disciple of Good Face and SBB.
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