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Tuesday, January 01, 2013

Daily Herald: Our experts: Tough call on baseball’s Hall Of Fame

Maybe if Barry Rozner was named Roger Rozner…he might have voted for Clemens. Otherwise…confused.

Barry Rozner’s ballot: Barry Bonds, Craig Biggio, Tim Raines, Lee Smith, Jack Morris, Curt Schilling

Bruce Miles’ ballot: Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Edgar Martinez, Jack Morris, Mike Piazza, Tim Raines, Curt Schilling, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell

Scot Gregor’s ballot: Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Mike Piazza, Tim Raines, Curt Schilling

Mike Imrem’s ballot: Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Kenny Lofton, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Mike Piazza, Curt Schilling, Lee Smith, Sammy Sosa

Repoz Posted: January 01, 2013 at 08:25 AM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: January 01, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4336185)
Yeah, how DO you vote for Bonds and not Clemens? Is it a "he kinda admitted something" bump? Or just an oversight? It seems weird to penalize the guy who has denied everything from day 1 and was found not guilty in court. What kind of logic is that?!?
   2. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: January 01, 2013 at 05:47 PM (#4336206)
Bagwell: 75%
Biggio: 75%
Morris: 75%
Piazza: 75%
Raines: 75%
Smith: 75%

Hooray, problem solved! With all those inductees, I just hope the platform is properly reinforced.
   3. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: January 01, 2013 at 06:10 PM (#4336219)
The toughest decision came down to separating three great leadoff hitters — Craig Biggio, Kenny Lofton and Tim Raines. I went with Lofton because for a period of time I considered him one of the top five players in baseball.


A surprising choice by Imrem. Me, I'd have dropped Morris and Smith in favor of Biggio and Raines long before I worried about checking Lofton's name.
   4. Mayor Blomberg Posted: January 01, 2013 at 06:10 PM (#4336220)
Schill got 100% of those ballots
   5. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: January 01, 2013 at 06:47 PM (#4336272)
Yeah, how DO you vote for Bonds and not Clemens?

Yeah, especially after writing this:

Personally, the notion that steroids were great for the game seems so absurd it's laughable.

Following the guidelines of the vote, I've left off the steroids guys.


He then ignores what he just wrote and votes for Bonds anyway:

Forgive the obvious contradiction, but I've always said Bonds was a 400-400 guy before he got on the stuff, so he gets my vote. He was the best player in baseball, but everyone forgot him during the 1998 Home Run Derby.

It's too bad he felt like he had to join the steroid-freak parade.

His 1,455 runs scored his first 14 years would be good for 78th all time, his 445 home runs 37th, 460 stolen bases 49th and 1,299 RBI would be 110th.

He was MVP three times and won eight Gold Gloves the first 14 years of his career.


Though he apparently doesn't think that Clemens' 354 wins and 7 Cy Youngs are enough even to rate him an explanation for his rejection.

Of all the ballots I've seen posted yet, this one is absolutely the looniest.
   6. zfan Posted: January 01, 2013 at 10:06 PM (#4336521)
Mike Imrem is an embarrassment, as usual. I'm referring to the McGwire and Sosa votes.
   7. Bitter Mouse Posted: January 02, 2013 at 09:15 AM (#4336700)
Yeah, how DO you vote for Bonds and not Clemens?


Yes Bonds. No Clemens. Yes Morris and Schilling. Got me.

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