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Daisuke Matsuzaka earns first major league save to help Mets beat Cardinals - NY Daily News

Daisuke, the new Mets savior!

Jim Furtado Posted: April 25, 2014 at 09:17 AM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM (#4693955)
Remember when Hideki Irabu was a closer for like a week?
   2. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: April 25, 2014 at 11:34 AM (#4693966)
I was ######## in Sunday's Omnichatter about the Braves' utter inability to hit Matsuzaka. Clearly I didn't know he had been re-born as an untouchable relief ace.
   3. formerly dp Posted: April 25, 2014 at 12:08 PM (#4693999)
Clearly I didn't know he had been re-born as an untouchable relief ace.
He has never really struck me as the type who profiles to do well in relief, but less pitchers have successfully made the conversion. The Mets have been flinging feces against the wall for years in their bullpens; at some point, their luck has to turn a little. Shouldn't be hard to unseat Farnsworth...
   4. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: April 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM (#4694000)
If he retains the core attributes of the Daisuke I came to know in Boston, he'll have some wonderful stretches as a closer. 9th inning saves that require 48 pitches.

He is the least enjoyable pitcher I have ever seen, at any level. He wasn't the worst pitcher I've ever seen...just the worst to watch. He could singlehandedly take the joy out of a baseball game.
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 25, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4694063)
Trachsel was worse. Just as slow, but without the interesting delivery.
   6. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4694071)
I used to feel that way about Bob Wickman. Sometimes it felt like he walked out to the mound intending to go 3-2 on everybody.

His delivery wasn't slow, but watching him was like getting your teeth pulled.
   7. dr. scott Posted: April 25, 2014 at 01:04 PM (#4694093)
I watched him pitch against the A's one evening, and it was so slow and painful.

But the real question is.... how was Colon at the plate. I feel as though 0-2 with a strikeout might not tell the whole story.
   8. devo Posted: April 25, 2014 at 01:06 PM (#4694097)
He is the least enjoyable pitcher I have ever seen, at any level. He wasn't the worst pitcher I've ever seen...just the worst to watch. He could singlehandedly take the joy out of a baseball game.


I had the same qualms when watching him as a Met last year, but this season he's somehow not as bad. Still has problems hitting the zone, sure, but it seems as though he only pitches from the stretch when he comes out in relief, which keeps things going at a pretty nice clip.
   9. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 25, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4694115)
I'm in a small minority but I liked Daisuke. He could be incredibly exasperating but when he was on there was a style to his pitching that was a lot of fun to watch. I also always got the impression he genuinely cared. When he left the mound in New York after getting bombed in his final start with the Red Sox he was visibly emotional.
   10. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 25, 2014 at 01:24 PM (#4694128)
The Mets have a 76 OPS+ and a 92 ERA+. Eric Young, a LF with a .289 slugging percentage is leading them in WAR.

How is this team 2 games above .500?
   11. formerly dp Posted: April 25, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4694143)
How is this team 2 games above .500?
I think it's somewhat of a template for how the team might be successful going forward.

Do they bench the team leader in WAR for CYoung or Lagares when the latter returns? D'Arnaud looks better at the plate than his line indicates, Tejada looks worse (among the league leaders in IBB, inflating his OB%), and at some point Granderson will start hitting. So on the plus side, they're 2 games above .500 with none of their hitters playing above their ability.
   12. Srul Itza Posted: April 25, 2014 at 01:30 PM (#4694147)
The Mets have been flinging feces against the wall for years in their bullpens


Well that explains the problem right there. That ain't no way to warm up.
   13. bobm Posted: April 25, 2014 at 02:17 PM (#4694243)
[4]
Recorded Save, (requiring IPouts=3), sorted by greatest pitches (available since 1988)

                                                                          
Rk                Player       Date  Tm Opp  IP H R ER BB SO HR Pit Str BF
1          Sergio Santos 2011-09-26 CHW TOR 1.0 2 2  2  3  3  0  44  24  8
                                                                          
2             Todd Jones 2000-09-01 DET TEX 1.0 2 1  1  2  3  1  43  24  7
                                                                          
3          Ryan Dempster 2005-08-02 CHC PHI 1.0 0 1  1  4  2  0  41  20  7
                                                                          
4           Joakim Soria 2011-08-17 KCR NYY 1.0 2 1  1  2  1  0  40  21  7
5          Jeff Brantley 2000-05-21 PHI COL 1.0 2 2  2  3  0  1  40  23  8
                                                                          
6           Brian Wilson 2010-05-15 SFG HOU 1.0 1 0  0  2  1  0  39  24  6
7           Bryan Harvey 1990-04-29 CAL NYY 1.0 2 1  1  2  1  0  39  20  7
                                                                          
8          Jose Valverde 2009-08-19 HOU FLA 1.0 0 0  0  2  2  0  38  24  6
9      Francisco Cordero 2005-05-02 TEX OAK 1.0 1 2  2  3  2  0  38  18  7
10       Armando Benitez 2002-08-24 NYM COL 1.0 1 0  0  1  2  0  38  26  6
11         Troy Percival 1998-06-25 ANA LAD 1.0 1 1  0  2  2  0  38  25  7
                                                                          
12         Grant Balfour 2013-08-11 OAK TOR 1.0 1 1  1  3  1  0  37  18  7
13         Jordan Walden 2011-05-29 LAA MIN 1.0 2 2  2  2  1  0  37  20  7
14          Brian Wilson 2009-07-06 SFG FLA 1.0 3 2  2  1  0  0  37  21  7
15   Francisco Rodriguez 2006-09-19 LAA KCR 1.0 1 0  0  2  1  0  37  18  6
16            Billy Koch 2004-05-03 CHW BAL 1.0 1 2  2  3  2  0  37  21  7
17          Joe Borowski 2003-08-24 CHC ARI 1.0 2 1  0  1  2  0  37  23  7
18    Jason Isringhausen 2002-09-14 STL HOU 1.0 2 1  1  2  1  0  37  21  7
19          Bryan Harvey 1989-06-25 CAL BAL 1.0 3 2  2  2  3  0  37  22  8
                                                                          
20        LaTroy Hawkins 2014-04-02 COL MIA 1.0 2 1  1  1  1  0  36  24  6
21         Craig Kimbrel 2013-08-07 ATL WSN 1.0 1 0  0  2  2  0  36  19  6
22         Carlos Marmol 2009-08-03 CHC CIN 1.0 2 1  1  1  1  0  36  23  6
23         Mike Gonzalez 2006-07-19 PIT COL 1.0 3 1  1  1  3  0  36  22  7
24            Dave Veres 2000-07-01 STL HOU 1.0 1 1  1  2  2  1  36  20  6
                                                                          
25        Ernesto Frieri 2013-09-12 LAA TOR 1.0 1 0  0  1  2  0  35  23  5
Rk                Player       Date  Tm Opp  IP H R ER BB SO HR Pit Str BF
26         Grant Balfour 2013-09-06 OAK HOU 1.0 2 1  1  0  1  0  35  20  6
27       Fernando Rodney 2013-07-21 TBR TOR 1.0 2 2  2  2  1  0  35  19  7
28          Jason Grilli 2013-05-21 PIT CHC 1.0 2 1  1  1  1  0  35  21  6
29   Francisco Rodriguez 2012-07-18 MIL STL 1.0 1 1  1  3  2  0  35  19  7
30         Carlos Marmol 2010-05-01 CHC ARI 1.0 1 0  0  2  3  0  35  21  6
31       Fernando Rodney 2009-09-04 DET TBR 1.0 2 2  2  2  2  0  35  17  7
32        Brandon Morrow 2009-05-10 SEA MIN 1.0 2 1  1  2  1  0  35  19  7
33           C.J. Wilson 2007-09-02 TEX LAA 1.0 3 2  2  1  2  0  35  22  8
34         Ryan Dempster 2006-06-09 CHC CIN 1.0 1 1  1  3  1  0  35  19  7
35         Brian Fuentes 2005-07-09 COL SDP 1.0 0 0  0  2  3  0  35  17  6
36          Danny Graves 2004-08-18 CIN STL 1.0 3 2  2  1  2  0  35  21  7
37            Danny Kolb 2003-08-16 MIL PIT 1.0 1 0  0  2  0  0  35  18  6
38            Todd Jones 1999-09-23 DET CLE 1.0 2 1  1  1  2  1  35  25  6
39         Matt Karchner 1998-04-15 CHW BAL 1.0 0 1  1  3  0  0  35  14  7
40            Todd Jones 1996-05-03 HOU MON 1.0 1 0  0  2  1  0  35  21  5


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/25/2014.
   14. Ron J2 Posted: April 25, 2014 at 02:52 PM (#4694270)
#13 Awesome list! Thanks. I would not have guessed that a 35 pitch save was anywhere near as common as this.

Wouldn't have picked Todd Jones to be the career leader in this prestigious category. Does not surprise me (or anybody I guess) to see Carlos Marmol's name twice.

How about 35+ pitch blown saves?
   15. billyshears Posted: April 25, 2014 at 02:56 PM (#4694276)
I have no idea how John Franco is not on that list.
   16. Ron J2 Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:02 PM (#4694280)
I see that there have been 20 blown saves of an inning or less and 35+ pitches. And that my PI subscription has run out so I can't get the full report.

I can however confirm that the Mets have at least 3 blown saves of 35+ pitches in an inning or less. And that Baraden Looper had at least two. (Only one for the Mets)

And the Mets have been on the other side of at least two of these specials.
   17. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4694288)
Not at all surprised to see Frankie Rodriguez's name on there thrice. When his get-it-over slider isn't getting over, innings get loooooong.
   18. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:17 PM (#4694302)
I attended this gem back in 1989 in which Joe Boever had a 34-pitch save, just missing the cutoff for the list in #13. What made Boever's inning special was that he only faced 4 batters, but went over 10 pitches with two of them (11 to Benny Distefano, 14 to Jose Lind). I checked the top five on the list above and none of them threw 10 pitches to a batter, they just faced a lot of batters.
   19. Ron J2 Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:24 PM (#4694312)
#17 Unless I'm missing something KRod is only there twice. The other Franciso is Cordero.
   20. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4694318)
I'm surprised Marmol is only on there twice.
   21. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:42 PM (#4694326)
Angel Closers on the list:

Bryan Harvey
Troy Percival
Frankie Rodriguez
Jordan Walden
Ernesto Frieri

FML...

Other pitchers on the list that pitched for the Halos:

Brian Fuentes
Fernando Rodney
LaTroy Hawkins
Jason Isringhausen

Geesh! That's like 25% of the list....
   22. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4694327)
I see that there have been 20 blown saves of an inning or less and 35+ pitches. And that my PI subscription has run out so I can't get the full report.

The full report shows 200 since 1988 (plus another 2 more before then that BBRef somehow knows about). The most pitches in one was Danny Cox's 49-pitch effort. Thing is that he blew the game in the 7th, so it wasn't a classic closer meltdown, just a wrecked starter turned middle reliever meltdown. Since 1988 there have been 56 blown saves of 35+ pitches that also include a game finished, headed by 46-pitch outings by Todd Jones, Heath Bell, and Travis Harper.

BBRef knows about 73 outings of all types with <= 1 IP and 50+ pitches. The most was Wade Davis's 69 pitch, 1 inning start last year. Most by a reliever was Scott Brow's 67 pitches for the Jays against the Red Sox. The box score is a manager's nightmare. The starter gives up three walks and three doubles and is yanked after only getting one out. Then the reliever comes in and the results are passed ball, wild pitch, walk, single, walk, double, double, groundout, intentional walk, walk, groundout. He gets a guy in the second, then goes walk, single, walk, single. Then he's yanked and sent down to Syracuse for the rest of the year.
   23. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:47 PM (#4694333)
I'm surprised Marmol is only on there twice.

I'm surprised Marmol isn't still out on the mound in one of those games, continuing to add to his total.
   24. Ron J2 Posted: April 25, 2014 at 03:58 PM (#4694347)
#22 There's pitch count data for most Dodger games from the late 40s to the mid 60s. There's erratic pitch count data from other sources as well.
   25. Cat Named Manny Posted: April 25, 2014 at 04:26 PM (#4694391)
The really impressive line from that list is No. 6, Brian Wilson, who managed to get the save and give up no runs in 39 pitches. Loaded the bases on two walks and a hit, averaging 6.5 pitches per batter. So you'd think he went to a full count on all of the batters, right? No. Just two of the six, actualy, and he even got a first-pitch out in there!

1. Pedro Feliz drew an eight-pitch walk. (8)
2. Humberto Quintero struck out on a 2-2 count. (13)
3. Geoff Blum popped out on the first pitch. (14)
4. Cory Sullivan hit an infield single on a 2-2 count. (19)
5. Michael Bourn walked on a 3-1 count. (24)
6. Kaz Matsui flied out to left on a 3-2 count that included nine foul balls. (39)

In a 2-1 game, with the bases loaded and two out, that 15-pitch at bat must have been awesome to watch.

[Thinking more about that, it probably was a big deal at the time, and I just missed it. 2009-11 weren't great years for following baseball for me.]
   26. thetailor Posted: April 25, 2014 at 05:19 PM (#4694454)
#25 I'm glad you pointed that out! That many pitches without allowing a run is doubly impressive.
   27. bobm Posted: April 25, 2014 at 07:32 PM (#4694538)
[25] http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2010/May/16/br/hawaii100516003.html

Posted on: Sunday, May 16, 2010

MLB: In epic duel, Giants' reliever Wilson outlasts Kazuo Matsui, Astros


By Andrew Baggarly
San Jose Mercury News


SAN FRANCISCO — It's hard to say which part was toughest for Giants closer Brian Wilson while he protected Tim Lincecum's decision and a 2-1 victory over the Houston Astros on Saturday:

Throwing 39 pitches without allowing a run? Outlasting Kazuo Matsui in a bases-loaded, 15-pitch battle to end the game? Enduring a bobbled, bang-bang play on the base paths and a dropped foul tip, both of which could've ended it sooner?

Or keeping a straight face through it all?

"I couldn't help it," Wilson said. "After a while, it was just comical. What was it, 15 pitches? I had to step off and laugh. It was like, 'What are they thinking (in the dugout) right now?' "

It was rhetorical pondering. Wilson knew exactly what was boiling in Bruce Bochy's gut as the manager paced himself into a trench.

"Willy had the nerve to ask me after the game, 'Were you worried?' " Bochy said. "Nah, I like seeing a bases-loaded, two-outs-in-the-ninth (pitch) 10 times."

Wilson wouldn't have been laughing afterward if he didn't have so much throttle in his right arm. His confrontation with Matsui was so epic, Ridley Scott might have already purchased the film rights.

It started with a called strike and a swing-and-a-miss. Then two balls. Then four fouls, including a slider — the only pitch of the 15 that wasn't a fastball — that rattled out of Bengie Molina's glove. Then another ball to run the count full.

Then five more foul balls. And finally, a fly out that Andres Torres squeezed in left field.

Wilson's tamest fastball was 96 mph. His final pitch was 97.

"It's pretty much country hardball at that point," Bochy said. "I think everybody knew what was coming."

Wilson said: "I don't want to lose a game on my second-best pitch. At 2-2, I'll try to sneak a slider in the back door. But at 3-2, it's, 'Here it is. Here we go.' I've got a lot of confidence in my fastball. Grip it and rip it."

Afterward, Wilson was just as fast with the one-liners:

"I'm at pitch No. 30 out there, and I've still got 10 more that I didn't even know about."

"I feel bad for the crowd to stand that long. They're probably thinking, 'C'mon Brian, let us go home.' "

And this stripped-down pearl: "You can either fail or you can win. Failing isn't that fun."

The Giants are having a lot of fun with Lincecum (5-0) on the mound, winning in seven of his eight starts. But the bullpen had blown his decision in each of his previous three outings, and there was little margin for error after Juan Uribe's two-run home run off Roy Oswalt provided a lead in the fourth.

If the relievers had held firm all year behind Lincecum, he would be 8-0 through eight starts — something no Giants pitcher has done since Billy Pierce in 1962.

This victory was a study in perseverance. Lincecum felt mostly out of whack against the Astros, walked the leadoff hitter in three of the first six innings, decided to scrap the windup in the seventh and pushed every last button to get through the eighth.

Lincecum had two runners on base and already had benefited from a diving stop by Ryan Rohlinger at third base, but Bochy decided to give his ace one more hitter. Lincecum's first two pitches to Hunter Pence were at chin level before he retired him on a fly ball.

"When it's time to make a pitch, he's as good as anybody I've seen," Bochy said. "He found a way there."

Wilson's way usually involves a high wire. But his bases-loaded jam wasn't entirely his fault. Rohlinger bobbled pinch hitter Cory Sullivan's ground ball just long enough to turn it into a charitable single.

Then Michael Bourn walked to load the bases, Matsui walked to the plate, and the safety bar came down.

"Sure is fun," Wilson said. "Couldn't pick a better time to have recess."
   28. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 25, 2014 at 07:39 PM (#4694540)
But the real question is.... how was Colon at the plate.

Ate everything and asked for seconds.

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