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1. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 29, 2010 at 04:32 AM (#3628979)Sox 74-56
I think this game all but ends the Red Sox chances. It's a game they could've won, and it has the impact of two games in the standings. It frankly doesn't matter that much what happens tommorow - they needed to sweep, and they could've swept. Buchholz did his job very well, as did Bard.
The problem is that the Red Sox have 32 games to go, and are down six in the loss column. If the Rays go 16-17 to end the season, the Red Sox will have to go 21-11 to tie them. With this lineup, that's not happening.
The problem with losing a game this weekend is that it'll take them a week to make up the two-game swing that happened tonight.
I admire the Red Sox this year for sticking around with a team that has been more affected by injury than most teams - but the Rays and Yankees are simply better than them, and probably better than anybody else, too...
With this lineup, that's not happening.
The lineup is not the problem. They're second in the league in runs. The problem is Lackey and Beckett laying eggs every time out and the bullpen only having two good pitchers.
I'm willing to trust Doubront at this point, but the other pitchers are *so* bad...
Glad I missed the game, but Atchison is arguably the best option at that point in the game, which is exactly the problem with the bullpen. Okajima, MDC?
This one is on Tito, and no one else. He had the W all mapped out and tried to get cute.
NYY 93-60 ---
TBR 92-60 0.5
BOS 91-61 1.5
Given Tampa's soft schedule in their last 10 (while Boston and NY go head-to-head for six), I'd say they win the division. But 1 game out in the loss column on the WC with 10 left to play doesn't seem like "done" to me.
Now, will each team play like I have mapped out in that thread? Probably not. What I've outlined is pretty optimistic for each of these three teams when they go up against the worse teams in the league.
Papelbon. Except that managers don't use their closer on the road in a tie game.
Just checked pitch counts, and Bard for another inning seems fine there too. Only 10 pitches last night, and 15 the night before. I'm sure they're trying to be more cautious than that with Bard, of course.
I've read this here more than a few times already this season. I expect to read it more than a few more.
What I've outlined is pretty optimistic for each of these three teams when they go up against the worse teams in the league.
You mean optimistic for all three teams from Boston's POV? Because I don't think too many Rays' fans would consider 12-10 an optimistic projection for this stretch, even with ten of the games against the Yankees and Red Sox.
So, you're saying that between the Sox and the Yankees, they almost have a pitching staff?
I suspect it was true the first time. Barring a miracle, this season really ended when Youk went down.
(I'm not saying I think Buchholz deserves the Cy, due to his missing a month to injury, just that with a league-leading ERA and a league lead in wins the voters would surely give it to him.)
(EDIT: Actually, the advanced pitching metrics pretty much all have Buchholz as a close second to Felix Hernandez in the AL right now, so even with the missing month he may end up deserving it.)
ve been pretty good in their roles, but this offense is pretty horrible right now. Sure, the bullpen could be better, but if you have trouble scoring four runs, you have zero margin for error.
Was Papelbon even available?
I don't see why he wouldn't have been...
If he played in New York, they'd make him captain.
I don't think he was completely available. He warmed up in 10th but I think it was one of those situations where they felt they needed to stay away from him after throwing 23 pitches Friday night. That's why I'm not too upset with Francona, I think he was a bit hamstrung by Papelbon.
That strikes me as incredibly optimistic. Both Toronto (68-61) and Oakland (64-64) are teams good enough to be a threat to sweep, and Baltimore has been playing at a 0.600 level since Showalter took over.
Maybe he would have been, but he shouldn't have worked the 10th anyway. If he was used, tonights depth chart would start with Okajima and end with someone even scarier.
Tito made the right call. I'm somewhat surprised he left Buchholz in after yanking Lester, in very similar situations and pitch counts, but he knows his personal far better than I do so I'm confident there was a good basis for that.
2 out of 3 was the goal, folks. They'll get TB at home soon enough.
No - I didn't think so. Guess I don't plan on giving up on them just yet
Against Toronto Boston has 3 (at home, I have Boston sweeping), NY has 6 (I have NY going 4-2), and Tampa has 6 (also 4-2). The Boston one is admittedly optimistic, but arguably not incredibly so - Boston is 10-4 against Toronto this year, including a sweep - while I wouldn't think the others to be incredibly optimistic on any level.
I have each of the three teams going 5-1 against Baltimore the rest of the way. To the extent that it's optimistic, it's equally optimistic for each team. It would seem like 4-2 would be a reasonable estimate for each at this point, even given that Baltimore is 7-9 since their initial burst with Showalter at the helm.
Not a requirement, but it sure would help. It's not easy to make up six games in thirty without a winning streak or two. And you need to sweep to generate any kind of streak. The Sox aren't dead yet, but they have their work cut out for them and blowing the chance to sweep Tampa this weekend really hurts them.
We'll see. Starts tonight.
Sox fans declared it over two weeks ago. Three games against the opponent is nice, but not enough when you're six games out. If the Rays win tonight, it's pretty close to over.
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