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Sunday, August 05, 2012

Dan Shaughnessy: Nothing new is going on with the Red Sox

Shaughnessy takes aim at Adrian Gonzalez.

They missed a chance to trade Adrian Gonzalez to the Dodgers for a bunch of players who could help build for the future in Boston. The Dodgers really wanted Gonzo and I’m thinking the Sox could learn to live without him just as they learned to live without Nick Esasky.

They missed a week of radio gold from Bobby Valentine.

Bobby went on his paid gig on WEEI and elected to tell a story that demonstrates the rampant dysfunction of the entire Sox operation. It was a story from earlier this season when Valentine teased Will Middlebrooks after the rookie kicked a couple of balls around third base.

Edit: Removed a few paragraphs of the lead in. Please keep in mind that the body of entries should only contain enough quoted material to give visitors an idea of the content of the article.  Jim

Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: August 05, 2012 at 12:22 PM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 05, 2012 at 03:44 PM (#4200995)
This club has suffered injuries to Dustin Pedroia, Jacoby Ellsbury, Kevin Youkilis, David Ortiz, Carl Crawford, Ryan Sweeney, Josh Beckett, Clay Buchholz, and Andrew Bailey, and are still just two games under .500, and they should blow the whole thing up and sell low on trading their best player signed to a reasonable contract having a down year?

Okay.
   2. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: August 05, 2012 at 04:02 PM (#4201002)
What's so reasonable about Gonzalez' contract? Not saying he should be judged on one bad first half, but $21M per for ages 30-36 is still $21M per for ages 30-36. Seems to me that the bargain year that the Red Sox inherited from his Padres deal makes people think this contract is better than it really is.
   3. Chip Posted: August 05, 2012 at 04:11 PM (#4201011)
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   4. Mayor Blomberg Posted: August 05, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4201020)
what's the theory that A-Gon's behind the rumor? That ESPN was responsible for the Sunday night games and Bobby V worked for ESPN?
   5. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: August 05, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4201050)
What's so reasonable about Gonzalez' contract? Not saying he should be judged on one bad first half, but $21M per for ages 30-36 is still $21M per for ages 30-36. Seems to me that the bargain year that the Red Sox inherited from his Padres deal makes people think this contract is better than it really is.


Compared to the mega deals Votto, Fielder and even Teixeira signed I think his deal looks awfully good. Obviously if we get more of the first half of 2012 and less of what we expect this a different story but I think his deal is favorable to those other deals.
   6. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: August 05, 2012 at 06:21 PM (#4201098)
Compared to the mega deals Votto, Fielder and even Teixeira...


Unless you believe that Votto and Fielder are in a different class as hitters than Gonzalez and Teixeira. And I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that. And again, the biggest reason that one would think the Red Sox got a better deal that the Yankees is the cheap year that Boston got on the front end. Even adding that first year in, AAV is just over $20M for eight years of Gonzalez and $22.5M for eight years of Teixeira.

Seems to me that the only real problem with 10/$225M for Votto is that it doesn't start until 2014. The Fielder deal might wind up looking like the best of the bunch when all is said and done.
   7. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: August 05, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4201128)
Unless you believe that Votto and Fielder are in a different class as hitters than Gonzalez and Teixeira.


Even if they are is the difference between Votto and Gonzalez worth $80 million? That extra money gives you options that you would not otherwise have.
   8. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: August 05, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4201141)
I think an extra $80M for 10 years of Votto compared to 7 years of Gonzalez would be just about right if it was for his age 28-37 seasons instead of his age 31-40 seasons.
   9. greenback calls it soccer Posted: August 05, 2012 at 07:54 PM (#4201145)
Nick Esasky? Good Lord, that brings back memories. Are there still broadcasters out there that call guys "mistake hitters"?
   10. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: August 05, 2012 at 08:12 PM (#4201147)
I was sitting next to Nick's family at the 100th anniversary game. After the game they introduced me and my friend to Nick and he was an incredibly nice guy. Signed my scorebook, posed for photos then offered to sign a ball for my friends son without being asked. It felt like he would have invited us to dinner if we asked. He was fantastic.

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