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Dave Eiland dismissed by Mets | MLB.com

The Mets are a trainwreck. Again.

The Mets have dismissed pitching coach Dave Eiland, a source told MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo. Bullpen coach Chuck Hernandez was also let go, according to the New York Post’s Joel Sherman. The club has not confirmed.

Entering Thursday, the Mets had a 4.67 ERA, which ranked 20th in the Majors. The team has finished a season with a higher mark just twice in its history: in 1962, in the team’s inaugural season, and in 2017.

 

Jim Furtado Posted: June 20, 2019 at 03:42 PM | 44 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. asinwreck Posted: June 20, 2019 at 03:56 PM (#5854202)
The Vulture descends upon the Mets.
   2. Itchy Row Posted: June 20, 2019 at 03:56 PM (#5854203)
Regan made his MLB debut almost two years before the Mets made theirs. His first manager was Jimmy Dykes, who made his own MLB playing debut 101 years ago.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 20, 2019 at 04:01 PM (#5854206)
lol, ok
   4. Blastin Posted: June 20, 2019 at 04:12 PM (#5854211)
This seems like a story made for Menckel.
   5. wjones Posted: June 20, 2019 at 04:13 PM (#5854213)
And Jimmy Dykes was managed by Connie Mack, who played in the 1880's.
   6. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 20, 2019 at 04:15 PM (#5854214)
Mets also signed Coaker Triplett as their new hitting coach and Frankie Gustine to work with the infielders. Still waiting to hear back on the offer they made to Gus Suhr to be the bullpen coach.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 20, 2019 at 04:18 PM (#5854217)
I wonder if Phil Regan knows what Rapsodo is.
   8. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 20, 2019 at 04:46 PM (#5854232)
Don't know what kind of pitching coach he is, but as Orioles manager he earned the moniker CPR on rec.sport.baseball standing for Clueless Phil Regan.
   9. Spahn Insane Posted: June 20, 2019 at 04:50 PM (#5854233)
I couldn't have told you whether or not Regan was still alive before reading this.

The '69 Cubs will yet be avenged.
   10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 20, 2019 at 05:05 PM (#5854238)
Is Roger Craig available?
   11. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 20, 2019 at 05:11 PM (#5854241)
where's Johnny Sain when you need him?
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 20, 2019 at 05:13 PM (#5854244)
I assume this portends a Jack McKeon signing when they've had enough of Calloway?
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 20, 2019 at 05:16 PM (#5854245)
Is Roger Craig available?

He's alive!

where's Johnny Sain when you need him?

He's not :-(
   14. Bote Man sez Deivi is MoY Posted: June 20, 2019 at 05:16 PM (#5854246)
No man is an Eiland.
   15. Itchy Row Posted: June 20, 2019 at 05:22 PM (#5854249)
Brent Strom was the oldest pitching coach, and Baseball America named him MLB Coach of the Year last year. Regan is 11.5 years older than Strom.
   16. weiss-man Posted: June 20, 2019 at 05:56 PM (#5854262)
Mets will be ready if Willie Mays comes up in a big spot.
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: June 20, 2019 at 06:37 PM (#5854276)
This seems like a story made for Menckel.

:)

for you kids out there, Regan was mostly a starting pitcher for the Tigers 1960-65. but the Tigers at the time were obsessed with truly awful-hitting middle infielders (Ray Oyler says hi!), so out Regan went to LA in the offseason for Dick Tracewski (now age 84).

the Dodgers made Regan a reliever, and he went 14-1 in 1966 with a 1.62 ERA and a league-leading 21 SV for the pennant-winning Dodgers. Sandy Koufax went 27-9 in his final season at age 30 for a team that incredibly only used 5 starting pitchers that season (HOFers Koufax, Drysdale, and Sutton plus Osteen and Moeller).

Phil later went 21-11 in relief for the 1968-69 Cubs, the latter club of course being overtaken by the Miracle Mets.

WFAN caller here in NY area complained tonight that if the Mets needed an old bullpen coach, 1969 version Joe Pignatano - age 89 - is available. "Piggy" played for the original 1962 Mets, is a Brooklyn native, a former Brooklyn Dodger, and a cousin of beloved former Met Pete Falcone.


   18. Adam Starblind Posted: June 20, 2019 at 06:48 PM (#5854286)
Mets will be ready if Willie Mays comes up in a big spot.


He can't be worse than Lagares.
   19. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 20, 2019 at 07:07 PM (#5854297)
The last person in uniform who pitched to Ted Williams? (He walked him.)
   20. Adam Starblind Posted: June 20, 2019 at 07:20 PM (#5854301)
Bartolo!
   21. Sunday silence Posted: June 20, 2019 at 07:27 PM (#5854307)
Didnt the Mets have some unexpected team meeting a day or two ago? Right in the middle of the day. Is this what it was about?
   22. Howie Menckel Posted: June 20, 2019 at 07:37 PM (#5854308)
I don't think so.

that one seemed like the old "let's schedule a pre-game meeting on the day our ace pitches, and hope to fool the players into thinking the season just got turned around for the better."
   23. Bote Man sez Deivi is MoY Posted: June 20, 2019 at 08:33 PM (#5854348)
Are we just not going to discuss Regan's presidency???
   24. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 20, 2019 at 09:13 PM (#5854395)
Are we just not going to discuss Regan's presidency??
“Tear down this wall, Mr. Yawkey.”
   25. Rob_Wood Posted: June 20, 2019 at 09:14 PM (#5854398)
Who else can remember Regan being undressed on the Wrigley Field mound by the umpires in the late-60's? Good times.
   26. The Honorable Ardo Posted: June 20, 2019 at 11:10 PM (#5854502)
The New York Post quoted BRODIE! saying,
This is a guy we’re familiar with, this is a guy who has a track record of being able to coach the game, understand the game and he has the aptitude to blend a new world order with the support of Rickey and Jeremy.

Ladies and gentlemen, the New World Order has commenced in Queens!
   27. bobm Posted: June 21, 2019 at 12:05 AM (#5854554)
No man is an Eiland.

And therefore never send to know for whom
David Bell tolls
   28. Meatwad Posted: June 21, 2019 at 12:16 AM (#5854560)
Bobm wins the thread.
   29. Walt Davis Posted: June 21, 2019 at 02:25 AM (#5854578)
The 1968 Cubs threw 1,453.1 innings ... all but 234.2 of those by their 5 main starters and Regan. Those 6 pitchers were responsible for 144 of 162 decisions

The 1969 Cubs threw 1,454.1 innings ... all but 214.2 of them from their 4 main starters and Regan and Abernathy. Those 6 pitchers were responsible for 143 of 162 decisions.

1968 was also the year Randy Hundley started 156 games behind the plate. 6 other Cubs easily qualified for the batting title and main CF Adolfo Phillips missed it by just 5 PA. Their bench accounted for only a bit over 800 PA.
1969 wasn't much different but Hundley now got nearly 3 days off per month and the bench was used a bit more.

Basically the 68-69 Cubs were a 14-man team and rest assured the other guys using up 11 roster slots were generally pretty crap.
   30. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: June 21, 2019 at 08:32 AM (#5854585)
Regan is a Michigander (Otsego, representin'!), and his pro debut was with the 1956 Jamestown Falcons, a Tigers Class D outpost, when Ike was president. (Actually, Eisenhower was still president when Regan made the majors in 1960!)
   31. Spahn Insane Posted: June 21, 2019 at 08:54 AM (#5854587)
where's Johnny Sain when you need him?

Went batshit, then got subsumed into my handle.
   32. Spahn Insane Posted: June 21, 2019 at 08:56 AM (#5854588)
Regan is a Michigander (Otsego, representin'!)

I somehow managed to grow up a Cub fan in the Kalamazoo area without ever knowing this. (Otsego's about 15-20 miles north of K'zoo, for those not familiar. [And for those not familiar with K'zoo, it's equidistant between Chicago and Detroit.])

EDIT: Huh. Regan attended Wayland High School, then WMU (where my dad, also an avid baseball fan, worked for 30-odd years, which makes it even stranger I'd never known Regan's origins. Mind somewhat blown.).
   33. Zonk Will Not Get Over It Abusing Its Office Posted: June 21, 2019 at 09:11 AM (#5854591)
I was going to make a joke about Regan having become the Edwin Jackson of pitching coaches, but I see this actually just his 4th MLB pitching coach job (Mariners, Indians, Cubs).... though, he was also a pitching instructor in the Dodgers farm system.

Somehow, I had this idea that Regan had been forever bouncing around one staff to another -- the prototypical guy teams hired to fill out a season when they can their pitching coach.
   34. Spahn Insane Posted: June 21, 2019 at 09:48 AM (#5854600)
Didn't he coach with the Orioles for a while, or am I making that up?
   35. Zonk Will Not Get Over It Abusing Its Office Posted: June 21, 2019 at 10:03 AM (#5854607)
Managed them for a single season...

Looking at other well-traveled (and former Cub) pitching coaches - I see Billy Connors also had four stops (KCR, NYY, Seattle and the Cubs).....

The legendary Dick Pole looks like the winner though - Cubs, Giants, Angels, Indians, Expos, and Reds (plus a stint as the Red Sox bullpen coach).
   36. Nasty Nate Posted: June 21, 2019 at 10:14 AM (#5854617)
Notable islands I have been to:

Prince Edward
Madeleine/Magdalen
Newfoundland
Cape Breton
Hispaniola
Puerto Rico
Key West, etc.
Manhattan/Staten/Long
Great Britain
Martha's Vineyard
Hilton Head
Campobello/Deer
   37. Spahn Insane Posted: June 21, 2019 at 10:20 AM (#5854620)
How many jobs has Rothschild had?
   38. Bote Man sez Deivi is MoY Posted: June 21, 2019 at 10:26 AM (#5854623)
I somehow managed to grow up a Cub fan in the Kalamazoo area without ever knowing this.

I got a gal in Kalamazoo-zoo-zoo-zoo-zoo!
   39. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 21, 2019 at 10:27 AM (#5854627)
I somehow managed to grow up a Cub fan in the Kalamazoo area without ever knowing this.


So you were on the eastern edge of Cub fandom. Anyone here from Walla Walla, Washington?
   40. Zonk Will Not Get Over It Abusing Its Office Posted: June 21, 2019 at 10:37 AM (#5854634)
How many jobs has Rothschild had?


Just three....

Herm Starrette ties - or, if you credit him for two separate stints, beats - Pole.... Braves, Giants (twice; 77-78 and 83-84), Phillies, Brewers, Cubs, Orioles... plus he also did a stint as the Red Sox bullpen coach.
   41. asinwreck Posted: June 21, 2019 at 12:32 PM (#5854691)
Regan learned his slider from Schoolboy Rowe, who earned fame beyond the diamond from his appearance on Rudy Vallee's radio show five years before Betty White first appeared on TV in 1939.
   42. KJOK Posted: June 21, 2019 at 01:03 PM (#5854701)
Bob Gibson might have been a good choice. I think he was Mets pitching coach for a year or so, and he would make men out of these starters. ;>)
   43. The Run Fairy Posted: June 21, 2019 at 01:12 PM (#5854705)
Didn't he coach with the Orioles for a while, or am I making that up?


Managed them in 95.
   44. Itchy Row Posted: June 21, 2019 at 01:27 PM (#5854710)
bb-ref says Greg Pavlick was a pitching coach of the 1986 Mets along with Mel Stottlemyre. Both of them were born after Regan was.

Rube Walker, the pitching coach in 1969, was born 11 years before Regan, but he's not available.

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