KD: Do you feel the same way about guys who used greenies?
GG: Oh, You’re not even talking about the same. …I used greenies. I’ve done them. I didn’t have to get up unless I drank a case of beer and stayed up all night. I might take a greenie just to stay awake in the bullpen. But it wasn’t a performance-enhancing drug.
KD: It was illegal, though, right?
GG: Yeah. Does the crime fit the punishment? Are you saying that greenies and steroids, you’re talking about aspirin and whatever.
KD: I guess, guys like (Bob) Gibson and Schmidt, Mike Schmidt, have said, “Hey, if we had access to steroids, I’m not sure I could have passed.” I feel like guys from the ‘60s and ‘70s used the best stuff available to them, which was greenies. And then the stuff got better.
GG: Greenies is like me drinking 10 cups of coffee.
KD: Yeah. Except it’s illegal.
GG: OK. So I’ll admit that I did it. It didn’t make me better. It didn’t make me throw harder. It made me stay awake. And I said this, too: If they deem it that greenies are on the same level as PEDs, then take my plaque down. I suffer the consequences like these __ do.
There’s DUIs and then there’s where you kill you somebody. Is there the same punishment?
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1. asinwreck Posted: March 02, 2013 at 11:17 AM (#4379133)I don't know about Goose, but I tend to do my best work when I'm awake.
Works for me.
It is so deemed.
And what about the guys that claim steroids didn't make them hit the ball farther, it just helped them recover from injury? Why should we take you at your word and not them? A hangover is a type of injury. Without amps, you wouldn't have been able to perform, at least not at your best. Even you admit that.
I had to highlight that quote. 100% agree with everything said in there.
From the excerpt, it seems that is still the case. I understand that point of view, but don't agree with it in the slightest. On top of that, it's incredibly naive/stupid to think that greenies aren't performance enhancers.
Disingenuous is the word I was thinking of, considering the source.
Yeah. The drugs _he_ took to play better were ay-okay. But the drugs these players took were not.
It's not exactly shocking.
Worth noting how Whitey Herzog stood on the matter. Took the strongest possible stand against players currently using but had no problems picking up players who had put it behind them.
Please note that I'm not saying they don't work. Completely different issue.
I wonder what Tony Gwynn took to get ready after staying up all night eating hamburgers.
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