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Tuesday, April 03, 2012

Deadspin: Jeffrey Loria Is Spectacularly Unlikable

Who would have guessed a millionaire art dealer/sports owner would be so snobby?

Ben McGrath has a fun story about the Miami Marlins in this week’s New Yorker (subscription required), which, as its primary function, introduces uptown types to Ozzie (and Oney) Guillen. But Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria is present too. In fact, he condescends to you through print. He makes you feel like you will be underdressed at a Marlins game if you show up in an outfit that does not include opera gloves.

Listen to him describe the new stadium, which the taxpayers of Miami paid for (certainly against their best interest and perhaps against their wishes), as though it’s his private yacht:

The stadium wasn’t just any old luxury-box conduit he’d succeeded in building; it was a lasting work of architecture, a contribution to the skyline of a major American city, “in the spirit of Richard Meier,” he said. “Lots of glass, lots of steel, beautiful white surfaces everywhere, curves, things that delight the eye.”

Oh, but there’s plenty of all-purpose snobbery, too:

In Jupiter, Loria stopped to lean against a chain-link fence near one of the practice fields. He greeted people coming and going, corrected their grammar (“You haven’t ‘run’ that fast, not ‘ran’”), and used a towel to swat at a persistent insect.

He was wearing a black cap with the team’s new logo—a rainbow-colored “M,” with a flourish resembling a marlin’s dorsal fin and bill—and explained that the uniform redesign, in which he played an active role, had been two years in the making. “The colors did not just come arbitrarily,” he said. “The red-orange is for those incredible sunsets. The yellow is the sunlight that you see during the day. The blue is the water that surrounds the community.” Goodbye, teal. The colorscape at the new Marlins Park, meanwhile, was “sort of an homage to Miró‘s palette,” Loria explained. “The outfield is all green—Miró‘s green.”

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   1. thetailor Posted: April 03, 2012 at 06:08 PM (#4096055)
Gooooo, Stuyvesant High School! One of our most famous alumni.
   2. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 03, 2012 at 06:13 PM (#4096061)
Obviously Deadspin is all about mocking everyone, but these quotes made Loria seem more likeable to me. Instead of being a soulless corporate glandhanding ####### like the vast majority of sports owners and executives, he's a sort of effete and stylish supervillain type.
   3. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 03, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4096065)
I dunno. I didn't RTFA, but the excerpts don't really add to my dislike of the guy. He's done far worse things than wax poetic about the heinous Marlins logo.
   4. Mayor Blomberg Posted: April 03, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4096067)
And the problem's what (beyond Deadspin's bruised ego)?
   5. Belfry Bob Posted: April 03, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4096078)
As Mel Brooks would say...'Blow it out your a##, Jeffrey.'
   6. DA Baracus Posted: April 03, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4096089)
And the problem's what (beyond Deadspin's bruised ego)?


I'm not one to defend Deadspin but this is the kind of story that people who don't know much about Loria would find interesting but those of us who do and hate him would find uninteresting because we've seen it all before.

Though I did find his comments on the colors and outfield contraption to be hilarious.
   7. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: April 03, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4096107)
That particular shade of green (maybe I'm showing my stripes as a TV dude) reminds me of a chroma key map on the local news for the weather guy.
   8. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 03, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4096116)
Gooooo, Stuyvesant High School! One of our most famous alumni.


Hey, you too? Class of '96 here.

I have to admit for the best high school in the country it has produced what to me is a surprising dearth of really famous people (i.e. not just famous in their field). Who's the most famous Stuy alum to the general public? Tim Robbins? David Axelrod? No presidents, no really famous writers, no famous tycoons. Lots of scientists including 4 Nobels but those guys aren't really famous.
   9. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: April 03, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4096121)
Yeah, well my high school had Darrel Chaney.

Jealous?
   10. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 03, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4096143)
I have to admit for the best high school in the country...

Has Hunter burned down?
   11. shattnering his Dominicano G Strings on that Mound Posted: April 03, 2012 at 09:18 PM (#4096148)
Hubert Selby Jr, Thelonious Monk, and James Cagney aren't famous enough for ya? Personally, and I'd bet Repoz is w/ my on this one, I'd take this guy over any of 'em.
   12. Sonic Youk Posted: April 03, 2012 at 09:27 PM (#4096154)
I'm betting these isn't a high school in the US with a more prominent list of alums than my alma mater. Which isn't really fair because it was pretty much the only high school back when they made it.
   13. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 03, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4096161)
Stuyvesant can also claim one-half of these guys.
   14. Bob Evans Posted: April 03, 2012 at 10:27 PM (#4096176)
Hubert Selby Jr

isn't famous.
   15. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: April 03, 2012 at 10:55 PM (#4096191)
Hey, you too? Class of '96 here.


um, I am too (class of '96 that is), but damn if those 4 years weren't the 4 worst years of my life.
   16. Dale Sams Posted: April 03, 2012 at 11:40 PM (#4096203)
I got Wayman Tisdale (same class even), Amber Valotta, Dan Piraro (did speech and debate with his sister), Heather Langenkamp and Allen Heinberg.
   17. Dr. Vaux Posted: April 03, 2012 at 11:50 PM (#4096208)
I don't understand why saying those things makes him bad. It makes him awesome. I mean, yes, tax-funded stadiums are not good. But if you're going to build a stadium, at least make it distinctive and interesting, no matter whose money you built it with. Why is the desire to make the tax-funded stadium distinctive and interesting a bad thing, once it's already granted that it's a tax-funded stadium? As for correcting people's grammar, well, that again, like I said, makes him awesome. If I were as rich as he is, I'd act like that. As for being artistically literate, well, he's an art dealer. That makes him a snob? He wasn't insulting you, he was just talking.
   18. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: April 04, 2012 at 12:02 AM (#4096213)
Jim Les and Greg Luzinski. And Steve Bartman and Michael McCaskey.

Hell on Earth for the most part.
   19. Tuque Posted: April 04, 2012 at 12:07 AM (#4096216)
Joey Harrington, Galen Rupp, Michael Doleac, and, of course, me.

I knew a girl who went to Hunter. First girl I ever kissed, actually, and also probably the smartest person I've ever met. Aced the SATs, waltzed into Yale, captained their debate team, etc. #### Hunter.

This is where I should say "CCHS for life" but #### that school too, really. I love my (two) remaining friends from there - and there were some great teachers and a few great administrators - but man did high school suck.
   20. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 01:56 AM (#4096247)
Hey Stuy grads, Lucy Liu and Eric Holder ain't bad, either (I didn't go there, but my college roommate and a bunch of other close friends did). Also, Frank McCourt the author, not the baseball supervillain, was a teacher there.

I think the only famous person to graduate from my high school is Craig Bierko. And he isn't that famous.
   21. SouthSideRyan Posted: April 04, 2012 at 02:24 AM (#4096251)
Michael Flatley, John C Reily, Kevin Cronin, Dave Diehl, Pete Mackanin
   22.     Hey Gurl Posted: April 04, 2012 at 02:25 AM (#4096252)
   23. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 04:46 AM (#4096260)
Me.
   24. Greg K Posted: April 04, 2012 at 06:31 AM (#4096270)
and used a towel to swat at a persistent insect.

That snob! Every red blooded American knows you used a rolled up issue of The USA Today.
   25. Greg K Posted: April 04, 2012 at 06:36 AM (#4096272)
As for schooling we had
Jim Carrey, Anson Carter, Brad Park and some CFL guys. (and wikipedia tells me the founder of Pizza Pizza!)
   26. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: April 04, 2012 at 07:50 AM (#4096289)
My high school actually has a wikipedia page! Our famous alums, evidently. The Harrison twins were a couple of years after I graduated, sadly. It would have been a blast to have been on the same track team with them.

* Dustin Lance Black Screenwriter 2008 Academy Award Milk
* Alvin Harrison twin of Calvin 1996 Gold Medal Olympic 4x400 relay, 2000 Silver medal 400 metres, 4x400 later disqualified due to Drug violation by a teammate
now competing for Dominican Republic
* Calvin Harrison twin of Alvin National High School Record 400m
2000 Gold Medal 4x400 later disqualified due to Drug violation by a teammate
* Del Rodgers San Francisco 49ers Super Bowl Champions
* Carl Nicks New Orleans Saints Pro Bowl guard and Super Bowl XLIV champion.
* Ramiro Corrales Major League Soccer.
   27. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 08:14 AM (#4096297)
My high school has renowned comedian Eddie Ifft, Howard Stern's wife, the guitar player for Winger/Dokken/Night Ranger/Whitesnake, former Colts nose tackle Leo Wisniewski, and one of the actresses from "Outsourced".
   28. TDF, situational idiot Posted: April 04, 2012 at 08:35 AM (#4096309)
He's the second-most unlikeable owner in sports
As "Unlikeable Owners", these guys look like Gandhi and Mother Teresa compared to Dan Snyder. (the original article which spurred the lawsuit)
   29. Greg K Posted: April 04, 2012 at 09:09 AM (#4096320)
As "Unlikeable Owners", these guys look like Gandhi and Mother Teresa compared to Dan Snyder. (the original article which spurred the lawsuit)

Harold Ballard makes a strong case as well.
   30. tfbg9 Posted: April 04, 2012 at 09:10 AM (#4096325)
Eric Holder? Yeah, he's a real feather in the cap.

Willie Wilson baby! Top that!
   31. Rants Mulliniks Posted: April 04, 2012 at 09:29 AM (#4096346)
I don't understand why saying those things makes him bad. It makes him awesome. I mean, yes, tax-funded stadiums are not good. But if you're going to build a stadium, at least make it distinctive and interesting, no matter whose money you built it with. Why is the desire to make the tax-funded stadium distinctive and interesting a bad thing, once it's already granted that it's a tax-funded stadium? As for correcting people's grammar, well, that again, like I said, makes him awesome. If I were as rich as he is, I'd act like that. As for being artistically literate, well, he's an art dealer. That makes him a snob? He wasn't insulting you, he was just talking.


I still think Loria is an #######, but yeah, what's the problem with appreciating good architecture and knowing who Joan Miró is? I've always loved distinctive architecture and its probably the only career that I've been drawn to for more than a couple years at a time. I've never pursued it, other than with my own house.

Matt Stairs went to my high school, as well as Joe Medjuck (producer of Stripes, Ghostbusters, Twins, Old School, Up in the Air, and many others) and Measha Brueggergosman (opera singer and judge on "Canada's Got Talent).
   32. Scott Lange Posted: April 04, 2012 at 09:38 AM (#4096351)
Ciara and . . . that's it!
   33. zonk Posted: April 04, 2012 at 09:38 AM (#4096352)
Eric Holder? Yeah, he's a real feather in the cap.


Translated: I disagree with his politics, therefor his notable accomplishments mean nothing. NOTHING!
   34. tfbg9 Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:01 AM (#4096375)
Oh yeah?!?

Well buddy, Willie Wilson is a much better example of an AS CF than Holder is of an US AG. And that's even if you allow for the blow.

Willie just gave drug dealers money. Holder gave them f*cking AK's!

Zing!
   35. TerpNats Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:09 AM (#4096387)
My school's alums include Mike Curtis, Gordy Coleman, Jim Riggleman and Tori Amos. Although another school in my county can claim Goldie Hawn, Carl Bernstein, Connie Chung and Sonny Jackson.
   36. Rants Mulliniks Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:09 AM (#4096388)
Holder gave them f*cking AK's!

Zing!


Touché!
   37. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:14 AM (#4096396)
Laura Branigan - Singer [1]
Eddie Cahill - Actor [2]
Peter Gallagher - Actor [3]
David Harbour - Actor [4]
Bryce Dallas Howard - Actress [5]
Tom Kitt - Musician / Author of Next to Normal [6]
Sean Maher - Actor [7]
Glen Meakem - Conservative radio show host [8]
Eyal Podell - Actor [9]


These are my HS alumni. Never heard of anyone below Laura Branigan.
   38. Rants Mulliniks Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:28 AM (#4096419)
Bryce Dallas Howard is Ron Howard's daughter, she's been in a few major movies (The Help, most recently) and is a decent actor.
   39. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:29 AM (#4096420)
Alums:
Darren Bragg
James Driscoll
Patrick Kerney
Allison Mleczko
Max Pacioretty
Barbara Potter
James Stillman Rockefeller
Ryan Shannon
Tammy Lee Shewchuk
John Welchli
Robert Taft
Robert Taft, Jr.
Bob Taft
William Howard Taft III
Robert F. Wagner Jr.
Trey Anastasio
Dudley Taft
Jeff Baxter
Henry Beard
Peter Berg
Mary Chapin Carpenter
Spencer Treat Clark
Nelson Antonio Denis
Adam Duritz
James Franciscus
Grant Goodeve
Deane G. Keller
Ralph Lee
Alan Klingenstein
Mark Winslow Potter
Steve Sandvoss
Fred Small
Karen L. Thorson


Heard of most of them, know about 3 or 4 of the lesser lights, and Wiki tells me there are a bunch more.
   40. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:33 AM (#4096427)
Bryce Dallas Howard is Ron Howard's daughter, she's been in a few major movies (The Help, most recently) and is a decent actor.

Never knew Ron Howard lived in the area. Must be in Bedford.
   41. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:40 AM (#4096434)
I'm sure my Miami HS boasts several notable alums but the only one I know of is Steve Carlton.
   42. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:45 AM (#4096441)
Willie Wilson baby! Top that!


You're a Hilltopper?

   43. SoSH U at work Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:59 AM (#4096454)
These are my HS alumni. Never heard of anyone below Laura Branigan.


You went to Byram Hills? We used to play you guys, and you'd look down on us for living on the river (or at least that's what the football coach told our guys to fire them up).

Biggest names that I'm aware of from our school: Evan Handler (the bald actor). Less famous is Cynthia Wade, who won an Academy Award for a short film (and was a super nice girl).

   44. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4096470)
You went to Byram Hills? We used to play you guys, and you'd look down on us for living on the river

What school? What years?

I'm a '89 grad. Only ever played baseball, and we sucked. The football team was really good when I was there, but I didn't really care.
   45. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 04, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4096471)
I actually attended two high schools. The one I graduated from can claim Pat Bradley (LPGA Hall of Famer) and according to Wikipedia some guy who won the "Beauty and the Geek" reality competition (as the geek). The other school has Mike O'Malley and Mike Lupica. I truly apologize for the latter.
   46. SoSH U at work Posted: April 04, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4096476)
What school? What years?


Hen Hud. Class of 1985. We were in the same league as you during my freshman-junior years, but Section 1 switched things up after that so you might never not have played us. I played basketball and baseball, though neither particularly well or often.

   47. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 11:26 AM (#4096490)
Hen Hud. Class of 1985. We were in the same league as you during my freshman-junior years, but Section 1 switched things up after that so you might never not have played us. I played basketball and baseball, though neither particularly well or often.

Might have played you. No real recollection.
   48. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 11:39 AM (#4096512)

Hey, I played high school soccer (and other sports at the JV level) against Byram Hills! Pretty sure I also ran track meets at Henry Hudson. But I was about a decade after you geezers.
   49. Barnaby Jones Posted: April 04, 2012 at 12:10 PM (#4096550)
We've got Bones McCoy and Roy Blount, Jr.
   50. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 12:13 PM (#4096553)
Hey, I played high school soccer (and other sports at the JV level) against Byram Hills! Pretty sure I also ran track meets at Henry Hudson. But I was about a decade after you geezers.

With that kind of talk, you've got to show up at next softball game and back it up :-)
   51. SouthSideRyan Posted: April 04, 2012 at 12:17 PM (#4096562)
Snapper, did Peter Gallagher's eyebrows go to the same school?
   52. PreservedFish Posted: April 04, 2012 at 12:18 PM (#4096565)
I knew a girl who went to Hunter. First girl I ever kissed, actually, and also probably the smartest person I've ever met. Aced the SATs, waltzed into Yale, captained their debate team, etc. #### Hunter.


I think I know this girl. If she graduated from Hunter in 1999.

   53. PreservedFish Posted: April 04, 2012 at 12:23 PM (#4096571)
Also, I support the Marlins doing a non-retro park.
   54. thetailor Posted: April 04, 2012 at 12:25 PM (#4096575)
Athletic Supporter and Avoid Running,

I graduated in 2001. Amazing how and where you find fellow Stuyvesant kids.

The lack of academically/politically famous alumni was sort of a joke around the Stuyvesant community in the years I was there and thereafter -- we do alright in terms of acting, etc. but the roster of alumni is remarkably light for a school with such academic chops. Bronx Science kicks our butt in terms of Nobel Prize Winners and Laureates.

IIRC, Stuyvesant was not always the premier high school in the city -- part of it coincided with the new building -- so the cohort of scientists/academics who might better represent Stuyvesant are just getting to the age now where their career accomplishments may be getting recognized (current Stuy laureates graduated between 1944-1963).

But absolutely, Paul Reiser, Tim Robbins, Lucy Liu, Eric Holder, David Axelrod, and many others make for an impressive list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Stuyvesant_High_School_people. In fact, I think we have four or five current City Council members (one of whom I interned for) which by itself is quite cool.

And Loria. Ugh.
   55. bartap74 Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:22 PM (#4097384)
Another Stuyvesat alum here ('92). I also remember Hendrick Hudson High School fondly (Montrose, NY, right?) as the host of an annual debate tournament there. I had a lot of fun playing volleyball in the round gym between rounds; met my first girlfriend at a tournament there as well.
   56. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: April 04, 2012 at 10:52 PM (#4097421)
Craig Counsell. I win.
   57. Tuque Posted: April 05, 2012 at 01:55 AM (#4097577)
I think I know this girl. If she graduated from Hunter in 1999.

She did not. It seems perhaps Hunter has graduated more than one Yale debate captain.
   58. Flynn Posted: April 05, 2012 at 07:42 AM (#4097602)
I still think Loria is an #######, but yeah, what's the problem with appreciating good architecture and knowing who Joan Miró is? I've always loved distinctive architecture and its probably the only career that I've been drawn to for more than a couple years at a time. I've never pursued it, other than with my own house.


This is Deadspin, so knowing about art and architecture is probably considered gay or something.
   59. Bad Doctor Posted: April 05, 2012 at 09:34 AM (#4097666)
I still think Loria is an #######, but yeah, what's the problem with appreciating good architecture and knowing who Joan Miró is?

This thread has devolved into a discussion of whose high school has the most prestigious alumni/a/us/ae. Sufficed to say, this isn't the target audience Deadspin had in mind to join in on their pissing on Loria.

   60. Hysterical & Useless Posted: April 05, 2012 at 01:24 PM (#4098018)
My older son spent 1 year at Stuyvesant and hated it (this would've been 97-98 I believe). It was the sort of school where kids would rip pages out of library books so that nobody else could research the topic they were working on. It wasn't enough to do well, you had to make sure others did worse. As we are not a hyper-competitive family, this was really a bad fit for him, and our lives improved greatly when he transferred to a less obnoxious environment.

And Snapper, Sean Maher played Simon Tam on "Firefly," the awesome Joss Whedon sci-fi western. Even if he never has another acting gig, that alone makes him an HOFer.

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