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Sunday, May 11, 2014

Deadspin: Mitch Williams Ejected From Child’s Baseball Game For Arguing, Cursing

MLB Network analyst Mitch Williams was ejected from a baseball game for ten-year-olds Saturday after a profanity-laced tirade that included him calling an umpire a “mother####er” in front of the children, observers tell us.

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spike Posted: May 11, 2014 at 09:54 PM | 42 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 11, 2014 at 11:25 PM (#4704701)
I'm picturing Harold Reynolds just off camera shouting, "THIS IS THE WORST EJECTION IN RIPKEN BASEBALL HISTORY!!!!"
   2. kthejoker Posted: May 11, 2014 at 11:43 PM (#4704704)
He can keep the kids, can we have his show taken away?
   3. Walt Davis Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:19 AM (#4704714)
Not "mother####er" in front of 10-year-olds!

"Gee, Pa, why is Otis calling Barney a mother####er?"

"Well, Barney and his mother were very close."

"You mean like you and Miss Ellie."

"Maybe not that close but closer than me and Miss Crump."
   4. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:31 AM (#4704717)
"but that didn't hurt him, cuz, he'uz BRACED"
   5. Bug Selig Posted: May 12, 2014 at 09:43 AM (#4704836)
What are the odds that the $15/game umpire knows the rules better than Mitch Williams?
   6. DL from MN Posted: May 12, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4704912)
Well, apparently Williams doesn't know that you can't swear at a little league umpire so I'm going with the ump.

From the comments, he apparently forgot the rule about tobacco use as well.
   7. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: May 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM (#4704922)
If Williams thinks he can do a better job maybe he can sign up to umpire. Otherwise, he should sit down, buy some Now and Laters from the concession stand, and STFU.
   8. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 12, 2014 at 11:15 AM (#4704941)
I was coaching yesterday and the opposing coach was giving the ump a bit of the Mitch Williams treatment. It was embarrassing and the ump allowed himself to be bullied into a couple of calls. I get being competitive but at some point remember that there are kids around and try to be a decent role model.
   9. GregD Posted: May 12, 2014 at 11:24 AM (#4704950)
Is there a more-admirable guy around than Mitch Williams?
   10. Canker Soriano Posted: May 12, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4704965)
What are the odds that the $15/game umpire knows the rules better than Mitch Williams?

If you have a high regard for Mitch Williams, it's only because he spends most of his time in direct juxtaposition to Harold Reynolds, who is the mental equivalent of a sleep-deprived five-year-old.

I got thrown out of the stands at a Little League game once, though for something far more innocuous than this: I was only 11 or 12, and watching my brother play. He was pitching, and I was giving it the old "hey batter batter batter swing!" from the stands right behind the plate. Apparently it pissed off some of the parents on the other team that I was shouting "swing" when he pitched, and so they complained to the ump and got me booted.
   11. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: May 12, 2014 at 11:51 AM (#4704985)
Why am I completely and utterly unsurprised by this?
   12. spike Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM (#4704994)
Is there a more-admirable guy around than Mitch Williams?

Lenny Dykstra?
   13. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:09 PM (#4705010)
Lenny Dykstra?


Curt Schilling. Pick any '93 Phillie, really (except maybe Jim Eisenreich - he seemed like a nice fella, and any time he let fly a '############' around a 10-year-old he had a decent excuse*).



* I don't know if he ever displayed that particular characteristic.

   14. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:10 PM (#4705012)
Did the Phillies have a 20th reunion for the 1993 team last year? That must have been a blast. Dykstra + Williams + Daulton + Kruk + Schilling = fun for the whole family.

edit: I think I owe SoSH a half a coke.
   15. Rob_Wood Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:20 PM (#4705028)

Like many, I thought this was an Onion article. Too funny to be true.
   16. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4705032)
What are the odds that the $15/game umpire knows the rules better than Mitch Williams?


I damn near guarantee you that my dad and his social group (mostly umpires) absolutely know the rules better than Mitch. I will just say this.. those $15 games fed us when I was a teenager.

So #### you, mostly.. but there are a whole bunch of guys that work games for peanuts that know the rules far better than any of us on this board. Jackass.
   17. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:27 PM (#4705038)
So #### you, mostly.. but there are a whole bunch of guys that work games for peanuts that know the rules far better than any of us on this board. Jackass.

I don't think he was insulting the $15 a game umpires. The opposite, actually.

(except maybe Jim Eisenreich - he seemed like a nice fella, and any time he let fly a '############' around a 10-year-old he had a decent excuse*).

Ha!
   18. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM (#4705042)
I don't think he was insulting the $15 a game umpires. The opposite, actually.


I may have missed the sarcasm..
   19. AuntBea Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM (#4705046)
What are the odds that the $15/game umpire knows the rules better than Mitch Williams?


I will give this the benefit of the doubt, and assume it was a rip on Williams. It does bring up fond memories of the McNabb overtime game though.
   20. Jason Michael(s) Bourn Identity Crisis Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:36 PM (#4705049)
Yeah, "Bud Selig" was the poster. I'm going with pretty obvious sarcasm.
   21. dr. scott Posted: May 12, 2014 at 12:45 PM (#4705055)
Even if it wasn't sarcasm, I think number 6 answered well enough without having to call anyone a Jackass... unless that was sarcasm... or a new form of gentle ribbing that I'm unfamiliar with.
   22. Sunday silence Posted: May 12, 2014 at 01:01 PM (#4705065)

I damn near guarantee you that my dad and his social group (mostly umpires) absolutely know the rules better than Mitch. I will just say this.. those $15 games fed us when I was a teenager.


today's winner of the Crystal Ball award for mind reading.
   23. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 12, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4705072)
I just spent the past 1/2 day thinking this was Matt Williams that did this, and wondered, how the heck he had time to run his kid's LL team.
   24. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: May 12, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4705090)
redacted
   25. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 12, 2014 at 03:05 PM (#4705237)
Any kid who likes baseball should umpire when he gets old enough. It's a great way to make a few bucks, to learn the rules and to really appreciate an incredibly difficult job. Getting yelled at by a grown up when you are 16 years old because you called little Johnny out on a close play at first base gets you ready to deal with the various ######## you meet in life.
   26. Dale Sams Posted: May 12, 2014 at 03:15 PM (#4705248)
What are the odds that the $15/game umpire knows the rules better than Mitch Williams?


I dunno...I've played in more than one soccer game in which the ref didn't understand the offsides rule.

OTOH, I once had infield fly rule called against me with a man on FIRST, on a line-drive that ended up bouncing in front of the fielder.

Also props to #2.
   27. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 12, 2014 at 04:23 PM (#4705304)
I'm shocked that Mitch Williams continues his life of douchery.
   28. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 12, 2014 at 04:53 PM (#4705328)
Any kid who likes baseball should umpire when he gets old enough. It's a great way to make a few bucks, to learn the rules and to really appreciate an incredibly difficult job. Getting yelled at by a grown up when you are 16 years old because you called little Johnny out on a close play at first base gets you ready to deal with the various ######## you meet in life.

Yep, I umpired baseball/softball and also refereed basketball games when I was in high school. Definitely saw a few overzealous parents although the worst display came from a fellow ref. We were officiating a girls basketball game in a league that had a no-press rule. We are talking about 9-10 year old girls here, 8 foot rims, as uncompetitive a league as you can imagine. The game is a complete blowout in the second half, and a girl on the trailing team violates the "no pressing" rule, steals the ball--almost by accident--and scores a basket. We let the girls play on and don't call it--probably a mistake on our part. The coach on the leading team starts to argue with us, which I can understand but give me a break. Before I can defuse the situation, my fellow ref (who was significantly older than me) goes nuts, starts cursing at the coach and calls him a p*ssy in front of a gym full of elementary school girls. Somehow I get the two of them to calm down, but I don't think that guy ever ref'd in that league again.
   29. Kurt Posted: May 12, 2014 at 05:11 PM (#4705336)
What are the odds that the $15/game umpire knows the rules better than Mitch Williams?


I dunno...I've played in more than one soccer game in which the ref didn't understand the offsides rule.


The following sequence occurred in my son's game this weekend:

1. Batter his a ground ball to short
2. Shortstop throws to first
3. Ball hits first baseman's glove, goes straight up in the air
4. Runner crosses the bag
5. Several seconds pass
6. Ball lands in first baseman's glove
7. Ump calls batter out

I'd never seen anything like it. Thankfully the coaches and parents had some perspective about the whole thing.
   30. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: May 12, 2014 at 05:24 PM (#4705340)
5. Several seconds pass
6. Ball lands in first baseman's glove
7. Ump calls batter out


Maybe the runner tilted his shoulders briefly towards second base.
   31. Bug Selig Posted: May 12, 2014 at 07:34 PM (#4705421)
I don't think he was insulting the $15 a game umpires. The opposite, actually.


I was, in fact, bagging on Mitch. I understand how it could be read the other way. NHNF.
   32. Walt Davis Posted: May 13, 2014 at 12:07 AM (#4705559)
1. Batter his a ground ball to short
2. Shortstop throws to first
3. Ball hits first baseman's glove, goes straight up in the air
4. Runner crosses the bag
5. Several seconds pass
6. Ball lands in first baseman's glove
7. Ump calls batter out


Infield fly rule.

   33. SouthSideRyan Posted: May 13, 2014 at 12:58 AM (#4705594)
I had an opposing runner called safe on a force at 2nd because my knee was on the bag rather than my foot. (I'd went down to dig a bad throw from 1st out of the dirt.) I was 10 and I knew that couldn't possibly be true.
   34. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 13, 2014 at 03:29 AM (#4705614)
old "hey batter batter batter swing!"


When I was umpiring, I wouldn't have thrown you out but I would have told you that you were an annoying ######### after the game. There was always one of those.......
   35. Sunday silence Posted: May 13, 2014 at 03:40 AM (#4705619)
I saw a parent get throw out of a pony league game when he yelled at the runner "Hey get the lead out of your as.s!" Ump goes into the stands and throws him out. I had never seen that before.

Hey is that even legal?
   36. Lassus Posted: May 13, 2014 at 08:38 AM (#4705660)
In pee-wee ball, like, I dunno, I must have been 8 or so and a ball was hit to me when I was playing second base, with a runner on first. I fielded the ball and went to tag the kid running from 1st to 2nd, but he squirreled around my glove, so I threw to first for that out. The ump called them both out, but as I missed the first kid I felt it necessary to tell the ump, no, I missed him. Not to be a dick, just to be honest. With the crowd amused, the ump hesitated and told me something like "well, I thought he was out, so he's out." My mom told that story for years.
   37. DL from MN Posted: May 13, 2014 at 09:55 AM (#4705710)
I'd better watch out, I've yelled at my own kid to unhitch the plow.
   38. Rants Mulliniks Posted: May 13, 2014 at 09:58 AM (#4705718)
I just looked at the photos and was disappointed to find out he doesn't look as much like Kenny Powers as I remembered.
   39. bobm Posted: May 17, 2014 at 06:26 AM (#4708634)
Deadspin published a follow-up story on Friday afternoon (NSFW: language), and it appears this situation is far worse than some yelling at an umpire. Williams reportedly used profanity while speaking to at least one child directly, and he ordered one of his players to hit an opposing batter with a pitch. These kids are 10 and under, remember.

Video of the alleged beanball incident is available via the Deadspin link (again, NSFW: language).


http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24564736/report-mitch-williams-ordered-beaning-during-little-league-game
   40. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: May 17, 2014 at 06:51 AM (#4708636)
At a softball game, I hit a line drive down the LF line that landed a few feet fair, but was called foul. When asked how, the ump told me he lined up home plate, 3B and a tree at 1 o'clock relative to 3B as the foul line, as there was nothing else to orient to. I knew this ump. He was a hometown guy, widely regarded as the worst ump error, and, as this call deprived my team of a HR (it got past the LF and rolled way out into the parking lot) I reminded him that he was terrible at his hobby.

He repaid me by calling a pitch up around my eyes a strike.
   41. GregQ Posted: May 17, 2014 at 09:30 AM (#4708649)
A buddy of mine who used to ump 20 years ago used to warn all of the parents on the first day of Little League. He said that he used a three strike rule for parents that heckled and yelled. He warned them first. the strike zone expanded with the second and on the third he threw out the kid and his parent. The first parent to heckle after that he threw out the kid and his dad and would tell them that sometimes he went straight to #3. Unfair to the kid but he said that he usually got no heckling after that.
   42. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: May 17, 2014 at 10:48 AM (#4708659)
I saw a parent get throw out of a pony league game when he yelled at the runner "Hey get the lead out of your as.s!" Ump goes into the stands and throws him out. I had never seen that before.

Hey is that even legal?


Yes. I'd issue a warning first, and maybe this guy already did, but I'd throw them out s well if it was a multiple infraction.

As for bad calls, misinterpretations of the rules, etc, there are good umps, bad umps, and inexperienced umps. Everybody has to have a first game. We don't require $30/game umps to attend an umpire school or anything. We require them to pass an online test and have some supervised OTJ training, and then have at it. Hopefully they are paired with an experienced guy, but hey, it's little league for crissakes.

As for the guy knowing more than Williams, probably, but not necessarily. I've seen some pretty poor calls in my time. I was working a JV game with an ump who was just as inexperienced as me. I was behind the plate and he was between second and third because a runner was on second. Batter hits a fly ball right down the RF line. I see it land on the foul line and signal fair. Just then the base ump comes running accross the field yelling and signaling "foul". It was a close game and that hit would have easily scored the runner from second, but the rulebook answer is that an inadvertent foul call is a foul no matter what. After chastising my knucklehead partner, I went to give the bad news to the offensive manager when he graciously said to me, "So, that's a foul ball, right blue?"

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