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Sunday, October 14, 2012

Dejan Kovacevic’s post on Pittsburgh Pirates | Latest updates on Sulia

People get it. Owners also get that the national television deals are driven by the big markets. Teams still need to be managed well to take care of the revenue advantage. The Pirates have been out of the playoffs as long as they have been primarily because the team has been mismanaged, not because they are a smaller revenue franchise.

No one in the national baseball media finds it the least bit odd that MLB plays favorites with the largest markets, even when it’s something as glaring as arranging special interleague series between the teams in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, while Seattle plays Arizona or some other nonsense.

It’s a joke. And it’s all the funnier that no one seems to want to get it.

Jim Furtado Posted: October 14, 2012 at 09:50 AM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: economics, pirates

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   1. bob gee Posted: October 14, 2012 at 10:43 AM (#4269322)
is this guy normally a troll? have no idea who he is, but:

1) c.c. wouldn't have signed with the brewers in kovacevic's 'fair' system, he'd still be with cleveland!
2) why do the interleague series between the 'major' markets draw more interest (which isn't totally true anymore)? because they're from the same city, duh. does he want seattle and arizona to have played 10 less games than everyone else? besides, if the major markets are more stacked (as he's implying), NOT playing those major market teams works to the smaller market benefits. double duh.
3) the a's and giants play each other as part of the 'major markets'. yet several paragraphs above he states it's not about the pirates, it's the a's that are at an 'inherent disadvantage'.
4) any article which states "the royals to an extent have done things the right way" loses much of its credibility immediately.
5) "four of those (nine) teams (with above 100 mm payrolls) are left in the championship series". yet three of those four teams beat teams which, in the regular season, had better records. and all four series went five games. the yankees series was saved by raul ibanez, and the cardinals win was capped by descalso, chambers, kozma, beltran and freese. is he saying ANY of those cardinal players (other than beltran) were because of the salaries? and the cardinals couldn't compete with the 'major market' team to keep pujols. or does that not count?

this should have been fire joe morgan stuff, but i'm out of any funny today.



   2. DA Baracus Posted: October 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4269346)
is this guy normally a troll?


Yes. His columns during the Penguins-Flyers series in the spring were particularly hilarious.
   3. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 01:17 PM (#4269452)
He used to be a really good beat reporter, but since he became a columnist it's like he's almost willfully stupid now. Such a shame.
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 02:23 PM (#4269498)
This guy is campaigning for a salary cap system, because it works so well in the other sports. Again, the NFL has had one of the following in the super bowl the last 10 out of the last 11 years, Steeler, Colts or Patriots. Not sure there system is much more fairer, instead of being able to allow teams to spend what they want, you are rewarding teams that can best manipulate the system.... it's still an advantage either way you look at it. And of course watch all those great hockey games going on right now, to see the advantages of the Hockey salary cap. And of course Miami in the NBA wasn't able to get the three best players on the free agent market in one year, because they have a salary cap...Salary cap is communism, it's something both political parties should oppose, it's something every right thinking American should oppose.


This guy wants to reward teams who don't want to spend money. The Cardinals aren't a big market team, the fact that they have built a larger fanbase than their market moves them from a small market team to a medium market team, but it's also the fact that their owners are willing to invest a significant amount of money back into the team, relative to the percentage they bring in, that also helps. It's a self sustaining cycle, you try to build a winner, year after year, the fans keep supporting the team, provided they feel you are trying.

For a while teams like the Phillies were consistently underspending the Cardinals, in a salary cap system, you would reward a team for pocketing money, instead of investing in their product. That just makes zero sense from a fan standpoint. Why as a fan, should I support a system that would encourage the owners to put out a lesser quality team in order for him to get richer? I know NFL fans on average have the IQ of a baseball writer(which means a very low IQ) but their system is ####### insanely stupid. Only people who win in their system is the owners, not the fans, and not the players.
   5. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: October 15, 2012 at 09:56 AM (#4270796)
He used to be a really good beat reporter, but since he became a columnist it's like he's almost willfully stupid now. Such a shame.

agreed

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