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Sunday, October 14, 2012

Delmon Young sets Tigers’ postseason HR record

I still can’t believe Hank Greenberg had no HR’s during his ALWC, ALDS, ALCS play. (PLEASE, AstraZeneca…put a rush job on those memory wiping pills!)

With his solo homer Saturday in the Tigers’ 6-4, 12-inning win over the Yankees in Game 1 of the American League Championship Series, however, he has claimed one bit of Tigers history. He now owns the franchise career postseason home run record with six.

Young’s five home runs in nine games last postseason were enough to tie Hall of Famer Hank Greenberg and Craig Monroe. Saturday’s blast off Derek Lowe in the eighth inning was his fourth postseason home run against the Yankees alone.

Young can’t quite explain it.

“I have no clue about that,” he said, “just trying to have good at-bats and win ballgames and trying to come out with victory. And [my] fourth postseason, I have a lot of games and at-bats under my belt. Maybe just being in here a couple of years helped.”

Young has faced the Yankees in each of the last four postseasons—twice with the Twins and twice with the Tigers. He went 5-for-24 in the 2009 and 2010 Division Series combined. He’s 9-for-25 against the Yankees in the last two postseason series.

Repoz Posted: October 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM (#4269391)
I hate Delmon Young. That is all.

EDIT: Okay I lied. What makes me really hate Delmon Young is that he's an incredibly overrated player (in that he's not universally regarded as one of the ten worst players in baseball) but then PLAYS BETTER THAN HIS REPUTATION against the Yankees only. #### you, Delmon Young.
   2. silhouetted by the sea Posted: October 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM (#4269405)
I think we need to celebrate the fact that this record is not held by a steroid user. After all, we know how sacred baseball records are and that we only acknowledge those that were set with complete integrity.
   3. BDC Posted: October 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM (#4269419)
As noted, this is sort of in the category of last night's game being the most-Tweeted-about in ALCS history, or something like that. But good for Delmon Young. Dave, every time I see him in Arlington he hits a 3-run HR into the back of the bullpen. I've never understood why he sucks otherwise :)
   4. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: October 14, 2012 at 12:48 PM (#4269424)
I may have to stop referring to him as "the much-despised [pronounced de-SPIZE-ed, as in Casey At The Bat] Delmon Young".
   5. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: October 14, 2012 at 01:15 PM (#4269449)
EDIT: Okay I lied. What makes me really hate Delmon Young is that he's an incredibly overrated player (in that he's not universally regarded as one of the ten worst players in baseball) but then PLAYS BETTER THAN HIS REPUTATION against the Yankees only. #### you, Delmon Young.


I hate to be the guy who does this, but Delmon Young:

vs. MLB 284/317/425
vs. NYY 296/325/402

Also:

vs. TEX 306/339/495
vs. CHW 333/386/544

I said this the other day, but I really think that Young is going to have a long career and wind up as the first player in MLB history to get 2000 hits while providing his teams with almost no actual value.
   6. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 14, 2012 at 01:40 PM (#4269462)
I think we need to celebrate the fact that this record is not held by a steroid user. After all, we know how sacred baseball records are and that we only acknowledge those that were set with complete integrity.

In 1938, Hank Greenberg tested positive for lokshenkugel.
   7. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4269473)
5 - My rage is basically based on the ALDS last year and last night. I accept that in the regular season he's been no hot shakes against the Yankees. After all, a lot of his career was with the Twins, who automatically always suck against the Yankees.
   8. bobm Posted: October 14, 2012 at 02:11 PM (#4269492)
[5]


Spanning Multiple Seasons or entire Careers, From 1901 to 2012, (requiring WAR_bat<=1.0), sorted by greatest Hits
                                                                                                               
Rk                Player    H WAR/pos From   To   Age    G   PA  OPS        Pos                              Tm
1        Alfredo Griffin 1688    -0.1 1976 1993 18-35 1962 7331 .604     *6/4D5                 CLE-TOR-OAK-LAD
2        Willie Montanez 1604    -0.7 1966 1982 18-34 1632 6407 .729    *38/9D7             CAL-PHI-TOT-ATL-NYM
3            Neifi Perez 1370     0.2 1996 2007 23-34 1403 5510 .672    *64/5D2         COL-TOT-KCR-SFG-CHC-DET
4        Bill Wambsganss 1359     0.5 1914 1926 20-32 1493 6107 .655     *46/53                     CLE-BOS-PHA
5            Tony Womack 1353     0.9 1993 2006 23-36 1303 5389 .673    469/87D             PIT-ARI-TOT-STL-NYY
6             Lou Finney 1329    -0.3 1931 1947 20-36 1270 5034 .723    9378/45             PHA-TOT-BOS-SLB-PHI
7            Ski Melillo 1316    -2.5 1926 1937 26-37 1378 5537 .646      *4/56                     SLB-TOT-BOS
8           Wally Gerber 1309     0.6 1914 1929 22-37 1523 5829 .635     *6/458                 PIT-SLB-TOT-BOS
9         Keith Moreland 1279     0.9 1978 1989 24-35 1306 5082 .746    95237/D                 PHI-CHC-SDP-TOT
10          Walter Holke 1278    -1.8 1914 1925 21-32 1212 4831 .682       *3/1                 NYG-BSN-PHI-TOT
11            Pete Suder 1268    -4.1 1941 1955 25-39 1421 5474 .627    *456/39                         PHA-KCA
12             Ken Reitz 1243    -4.9 1972 1982 21-31 1344 5079 .649      *5/64                 STL-SFG-CHC-PIT
13           Jim Spencer 1227     0.1 1968 1982 21-35 1553 5408 .694      *3D/7         CAL-TOT-TEX-CHW-NYY-OAK
14            Jesus Alou 1216    -1.0 1963 1979 21-37 1380 4577 .658     97/D83             SFG-HOU-TOT-OAK-NYM
15           Chris Gomez 1206    -3.3 1993 2008 22-37 1515 5148 .685    *643/5D DET-TOT-SDP-TBD-MIN-TOR-BAL-PIT
16           Bob Kennedy 1176    -4.4 1939 1957 18-36 1485 5065 .665    957/834                     CHW-CLE-TOT
17         Jerry Morales 1173    -3.8 1969 1983 20-34 1441 4984 .695     987/D5             SDP-CHC-STL-DET-NYM
18        Bob Aspromonte 1103    -1.1 1956 1971 18-33 1324 4799 .644   *5/67349             BRO-LAD-HOU-ATL-NYM
19          Don Kolloway 1081     0.2 1940 1953 21-34 1079 4246 .658     *43/58                 CHW-TOT-DET-PHA
20        Don Gutteridge 1075    -3.5 1936 1948 24-36 1151 4577 .669     *45/67                 STL-SLB-BOS-PIT
21          Lenny Harris 1055     0.7 1988 2005 23-40 1903 4289 .667 5497/36D81         CIN-LAD-NYM-MIL-TOT-FLA
22         Jerry Royster 1049     0.8 1973 1988 20-35 1428 4732 .648   5467/89D                 LAD-SDP-TOT-ATL
23         Frank ORourke 1032    -4.4 1912 1931 18-37 1132 4608 .649     *564/3         BSN-BRO-WSH-BOS-DET-SLB
24        Tommy Thevenow 1030    -6.7 1924 1938 20-34 1229 4483 .579     *645/3             STL-PHI-PIT-CIN-BSN
25         Frank Taveras 1029     0.4 1971 1982 21-32 1150 4399 .614       *6/4                 PIT-TOT-NYM-MON
Rk                Player    H WAR/pos From   To   Age    G   PA  OPS        Pos                              Tm
26          Doc Johnston  992     0.7 1909 1922 21-34 1056 4271 .670       *3/8                 CIN-CLE-PIT-PHA
27          Bill Cissell  990    -0.9 1928 1938 24-34  956 4001 .669      *46/5         CHW-TOT-CLE-BOS-PHA-NYG
28   Yuniesky Betancourt  974    -2.9 2005 2012 23-30 1019 3869 .682     *6/45D                 SEA-TOT-KCR-MIL
29       Ricky Gutierrez  967    -3.0 1993 2004 23-34 1119 4126 .689   *64/579D             SDP-HOU-CHC-CLE-TOT
30          Delmon Young  955     0.8 2006 2012 20-26  880 3575 .742     *79D/8                 TBD-MIN-TOT-DET
31        Chick Galloway  946    -5.2 1919 1928 22-31 1078 3995 .659    *6/5437                         PHA-DET
32             Dan Meyer  944    -8.2 1974 1985 21-32 1118 4032 .673    375/D98                     DET-SEA-OAK
33          Mike Matheny  925    -1.9 1994 2006 23-35 1305 4287 .637      *2/3D                 MIL-TOR-STL-SFG
   9. silhouetted by the sea Posted: October 14, 2012 at 02:15 PM (#4269495)
In 1938, Hank Greenberg tested positive for lokshenkugel.

I thought lokshenkugel wasn't put on the list of banned substances till 1940.
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 02:43 PM (#4269508)
I hate to be the guy who does this, but Delmon Young:


If you look at Young's career splits, he does seem to be one of those guys who is actually "clutch" to some extent.

Career rate numbers ..284 .317 .425 .742
Risp .310 .340 .453 .793
High leverage .301 .327 .429 .756
If you look deeper into his stats you see that he brings his A game against good teams
wp> .500 .296 .327 .429 .756
wp< .500 .272 .306 .421 .727 He also likes Interleague play
.336 .356 .488 .844

And considering that the White Sox was probably his teams primary rival for a number of years
Vs White Sox .333 .386 .544 .930 (he has average numbers against Detroit arguably the other primary rival)

It's arguable that Delmon Young is one of a handful of guys who have relied on their talent to carry them, and only gives effort when they "feel" the pressure.
   11. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 14, 2012 at 03:32 PM (#4269539)
Last off-season, I really thought that Dave Dombrowski was way too smart to bring Young back just because he hit a couple of bombs in the playoffs. WTF do I know?
   12. WillYoung Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4269966)
Gotham Dave, I highly doubt Yankee fans can hate _elm_n as much as Twins fans do.
   13. Cris E Posted: October 14, 2012 at 08:53 PM (#4270190)
What makes me really hate Delmon Young is that he's an incredibly overrated player (in that he's not universally regarded as one of the ten worst players in baseball) but then PLAYS BETTER THAN HIS REPUTATION against the Yankees only. #### you, Delmon Young.

Well you're wrong. As a Twins fan I know he can suck against the Yankees. Every stinking post-season he'd run up against them and Boom, he'd just suck. In conclusion, Delmon sucked against the Yankees in the post-season.

But as to your main point: Amen. #### you, Delmon Young.

EDIT: Whoa, look at the rest of the comments. I saw the first one and replied before seeing WillYoung's post. He's right.
   14. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: October 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM (#4270394)
More than 2000 hits, less than 20 WAR (not a PI search, just me clicking on a lot of B-R links):

Doc Cramer 4.2 (and 2705 hits!)
Charlie Grimm 10.6
Bill Buckner 11.8
Ruben Sierra 13.0 (18.1 with the Rangers, though)
Patsy Donovan 15.0
Juan Pierre 15.3
Joe Carter 15.6
Todd Zeile 16.0
Tommy Corcoran 16.5
Tommy Davis 16.7
Hal Chase 19.2 (probably overestimating his actual on-field value)
   15. bobm Posted: October 14, 2012 at 10:47 PM (#4270507)
[14]

                                                            
Rk            Player    H WAR/pos From   To   Age    G    PA
1       Bill Buckner 2715    11.8 1969 1990 19-40 2517 10037
2         Doc Cramer 2705     4.2 1929 1948 23-42 2238  9927
3      Charlie Grimm 2299    10.6 1916 1936 17-37 2166  8747
4         Larry Bowa 2191    20.0 1970 1985 24-39 2247  9109
5         Joe Carter 2184    15.6 1983 1998 23-38 2189  9154
6          Hal Chase 2158    19.2 1905 1919 22-36 1919  7939
7       Ruben Sierra 2152    13.0 1986 2006 20-40 2186  8782
8        Juan Pierre 2141    15.4 2000 2012 22-34 1881  7950
9        Tommy Davis 2121    16.7 1959 1976 20-37 1999  7736
10   Orlando Cabrera 2055    18.1 1997 2011 22-36 1985  8255
11       Tony Taylor 2007    20.0 1958 1976 22-40 2195  8501
12        Todd Zeile 2004    15.9 1989 2004 23-38 2158  8649
   16. bobm Posted: October 14, 2012 at 10:52 PM (#4270525)
With 19th century:

                                                            
Rk            Player    H WAR/pos From   To   Age    G    PA
1       Bill Buckner 2715    11.8 1969 1990 19-40 2517 10037
2         Doc Cramer 2705     4.2 1929 1948 23-42 2238  9927
3      Charlie Grimm 2299    10.6 1916 1936 17-37 2166  8747
4     Tommy Corcoran 2256    16.5 1890 1907 21-38 2202  9387
5      Patsy Donovan 2256    15.0 1890 1907 25-42 1824  8172
6         Larry Bowa 2191    20.0 1970 1985 24-39 2247  9109
7         Joe Carter 2184    15.6 1983 1998 23-38 2189  9154
8          Hal Chase 2158    19.2 1905 1919 22-36 1919  7939
9       Ruben Sierra 2152    13.0 1986 2006 20-40 2186  8782
10       Juan Pierre 2141    15.4 2000 2012 22-34 1881  7950
11       Tommy Davis 2121    16.7 1959 1976 20-37 1999  7736
12   Orlando Cabrera 2055    18.1 1997 2011 22-36 1985  8255
13       Tony Taylor 2007    20.0 1958 1976 22-40 2195  8501
14        Todd Zeile 2004    15.9 1989 2004 23-38 2158  8649
   17. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 14, 2012 at 10:58 PM (#4270542)
He now owns the franchise career postseason home run record with six.

Six? That must be the all-time postseason HR record, no? Top 3? Top 10? Honorable mention?
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 11:05 PM (#4270557)
Six? That must be the all-time postseason HR record, no? Top 3? Top 10? Honorable mention?


Yep, that is the funny part, Nelson Cruz hit six in one series against the Tigers last year.

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