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Denver Post | Tulo takes on vulgarity, slugs 24th home run

Troy Tulowitzki hit a home run and attempted to deliver a life lesson Sunday afternoon at AT&T Park.

As Tulowitzki warmed up in the on-deck circle in the fifth inning, he was the target of loud profanity. It came from a group of teenagers who were coaxed by an older man whom Tulowitzki described as a “vulgar adult.”

Undeterred, Tulowitzki went to the plate and clubbed a homer to deep center field off Giants starter Matt Cain. It was Tulowitzki’s 24th homer, tying his output in his magical 2007 rookie season. After touching home plate, Tulowitzki pointed an “I told you so” finger at the mouthy group near the Rockies’ dugout.

“It’s one thing to come to a game and watch and root on your favorite players and to boo the other team,” he said. “But when you are cussing in front of kids and doing things that are inappropriate, I’m going to say something. Anytime I came to a big-league game as a kid, I respected the players. There were definitely some inappropriate things being said and some things being thrown.”

After he hit the home run and pointed his finger, the rowdy fans’ behavior didn’t change.

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   1. dejarouehg Posted: August 31, 2009 at 12:30 PM (#3309545)
Good for Tulowitzki!!

Too many fans think purchasing a ticket gives them license to act like a putz!

I don't understand booing another human being. (Wouldn't care to be booed by my employees when I'm having a crappy day at the office.)

Cursing and acting like buffons? What the hell is wrong with fans.

I'll have true sympathy for players when they advocate the elimination of beer sales and the idiotic behavior it breeds.

Both New York crowds, Chicago and Boston need to get some civility.

St. Louis fans seem to manage the balance of being passionate, yet civil.
   2. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: August 31, 2009 at 12:34 PM (#3309546)
I'll have true sympathy for players when they advocate the elimination of beer sales and the idiotic behavior it breeds.

You, sir, are history's worst monster.
   3. Guapo Posted: August 31, 2009 at 12:37 PM (#3309548)
After he hit the home run and pointed his finger, the rowdy fans’ behavior didn’t change.

If there's one thing I've learned from having a one year old- when he's acting like a #########, the fastest way to get him to stop is ignore him.

(He's a cute little #########, but still.)

Next time, Tulo, less finger pointing, more calling security from the dugout and having those dumbasses ejected.
   4. Answer Guy Posted: August 31, 2009 at 12:45 PM (#3309553)
I don't understand booing another human being. (Wouldn't care to be booed by my employees when I'm having a crappy day at the office.)

It is what it is. If you can't stand the boos, there are plenty of lines of work - granted, most of them pay far less well than pro sports teams do - where you're not going to be subjected to them.

Yeah, there are some fans who are awfully quick with the jeers, but that's always how it's been.

Though most people take for granted the idea that discourse has steadily coarsened, it seems from my perspective like baseball crowds were worse when I was younger than they are now.
   5. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: August 31, 2009 at 12:47 PM (#3309556)
Though most people take for granted the idea that discourse has steadily coarsened, it seems from my perspective like baseball crowds were worse when I was younger than they are now.

Baseball crowds are much more sedate than when I was younger. It's not even close, really. I think they put saltpeter in the nachos.
   6. bunyon Posted: August 31, 2009 at 01:39 PM (#3309590)
I agree that fans are, on the whole, more civil than in the past, which makes folks like descibed in the article really stand out. Nothing the players do will stop it, as pointed out by Guapo, ejection is all that will stop them. If they're really loud and offensive, then by all means. If it's just booing and jeering, without the profanity, then the players have to suck it up.
   7. zack Posted: August 31, 2009 at 02:21 PM (#3309638)
Should have gone into the stands.
   8. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: August 31, 2009 at 02:24 PM (#3309644)
It is what it is.


Answer Guy is history's second-worst monster.
   9. JoeHova Posted: August 31, 2009 at 02:25 PM (#3309646)
I didn't realize Tulowitzki was such a delicate little flower.
   10. kthejoker Posted: August 31, 2009 at 02:26 PM (#3309647)
Troy Tulowitzki should be awarded that man's children.
   11. Bob Dernier Cri Posted: August 31, 2009 at 02:28 PM (#3309648)
folks like descibed in the article really stand out

I blame this on new stadium designs that keep the fans farther away from the field. You really have to scream nowadays if you want to call somebody a ########. When I was a kid, you could sit behind the visitor's dugout in Connie Mack Stadium and call Leo Durocher an ####### in a stage whisper.
   12. Answer Guy Posted: August 31, 2009 at 03:33 PM (#3309704)
I didn't realize Tulowitzki was such a delicate little flower.

Of course now that he's called attention to himself there will be more people eager to taunt him.
   13. Rusty Priske Posted: August 31, 2009 at 03:43 PM (#3309715)
Refusing to accept that what these loudmouths were doing is hardly being a 'delicate little flower'.

I wish more people would stand up to people who do not understand the concept of common courtesy.



As for 'booing', I do think there is a place for it. I will happily boo any player that appears to not put in an acceptable level of effort. I won't boo you for failing, but I'll sure boo you for not trying.
   14. dejarouehg Posted: August 31, 2009 at 03:57 PM (#3309736)
Amazingly, I think when you look at the 4 sports, I'm not sure baseball isn't the best behaved of all..........maybe hoops. It's certainly better than most European and South and Central American crowds.

Still, I don't enjoy bringing my kids to a game to listen to the nonsense and they certainly will never be allowed to go back to another NFL game.

I'll never understand booing another human being. Imagine it's your kid that gets "booed." I've heard of it (second-hand) happening in kids sports. Just an absurd mind-set.

When you are booing that unacceptable level of effort, do you know if the player's hurt? Had a fight with his wife? His girlfriend? Both of them? Would you boo him if he was making what a postman makes?

I've gone to three games in St. Louis (going to another 2 in a couple of weeks,) for a Cards-Cubs series. I've gone to a half-dozen games in Houston. I've yet to hear booing.
   15. puck Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:10 PM (#3309751)
Rockies fans are too quick to boo. Their pitcher Jorge de la Rosa was getting roughed up and the 11 game win streak was coming to an end, and the crowd booed. I couldn't believe it. These guys, including de la Rosa, had put it together after the miserable start under Hurdle (when someone would always find a way to lose a close game) to win 11 straight and salvage the season, and they booed when the team couldn't get #12.

That fanbase has a long way to go, unfortunately. I guess that's what you get after years of ridiculous baseball (and their main beat writer still being sore about Dante Bichette "losing" the '95 MVP to Barry Larkin).
   16. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:20 PM (#3309764)
I've gone to three games in St. Louis (going to another 2 in a couple of weeks,) for a Cards-Cubs series. I've gone to a half-dozen games in Houston. I've yet to hear booing.
Not even booing the away team? I find that hard to believe. I'd expect you'll hear some at the Cubs-Cardinals series, espcially since there apparently exists a market for these t-shirts (some borderline NSFW).

Anyway, I don't have a big problem with people yelling at players in generally. Profanity isn't great, but that's more because too often it's a crutch for the the un-funny.
   17. Steve Treder Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:21 PM (#3309768)
Tulo's a Rockie, which sucks, because he's a hell of a fine ballplayer, and he's a hometown boy I very much want to root for. He was born in the same hospital as my kids, three-and-a-half months following my son.
   18. toratoratora Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:21 PM (#3309770)
Man. I grew up going to games at old Memorial Stadium back in the days when they let you bring coolers of beer, booze and food in. There were summers spent sitting in the upper decks watching Wild Bill lead the cheers through a haze of reefer smoke and God knows what else. Lots more drunks, lots more fighting and certainly more profanity.
Those old bal-more Hampden billies were tough.
Good fans though-loved their Birds and their Boh.


A Yankees game was like a ball game and a boxing match all in one. I remember watching a BF/GF rooting for opposite teams getting more and more hammered, and correspondingly rude to each other and ending up in a kicking screaming fistfight before the 7th inning stretch.

Sick as it is, there's a part of me that misses all that.
Camden Yards has never been the same.
We traded crabs and boh for brie and chardonnay and now we need an announcer and jumbotron to tell us when to cheer.

Sheesh.I'm almost at the "When we were your age..." stage.
   19. Answer Guy Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:24 PM (#3309775)
I'll never understand booing another human being. Imagine it's your kid that gets "booed." I've heard of it (second-hand) happening in kids sports. Just an absurd mind-set.


Yeah, that's a different kettle of fish, as they used to say but don't say much anymore. No I wouldn't want someone booing my kid, and I'd be pissed off if that happened the context of Little League or high school. But if he was an adult playing in a pro sports league than I wouldn't feel like I ought to get all that upset about it. If he wants to, he can stand up to himself.

I've seen kids booed and generally adults who do it are shunned by everyone around them.

When you are booing that unacceptable level of effort, do you know if the player's hurt? Had a fight with his wife? His girlfriend? Both of them? Would you boo him if he was making what a postman makes?


The fame and fortune are a huge part of it. These guys are being paid boatloads of dough to put up with getting booed and called names every once in a while. The big stars are household names, so they're going to get called out more often. If they're too emotionally fragile to deal with that, there are plenty of jobs out there where that doesn't happen.

Same thing with music. I'm not going to boo a few kids at an open mic night if they suck, or even some band of weekend warriors at a little club. But when Guns n' Roses goes onstage nearly 3 hours late (which they did the one time I saw them, and they regularly did this) and displays all the dexterity of a middle school band (which they thankfully did not, they did put on a perfectly acceptable show) I'd not have hesitate to boo the ever living hell out of Axl and company.
   20. Jeff K. Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:26 PM (#3309778)
I think they put saltpeter in the nachos.

Dude, boo all you want, but if you put your peter in my nachos, we're having words.
   21. bunyon Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:27 PM (#3309779)
I have no problem with any pro being booed, no matter if their parents would like it or not. Booing LLers or HSers is crap, and booing college kids not much better.* I wouldn't mind any cursing or insulting pros, either, except for it being done with kids and others around - in the absence of mixed company/innocent other adults, say anything you like to the pro on the field. But there always are others around.


* D-1 money sports excepted. They're essentially pros.
   22. Crispix Attacks Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:29 PM (#3309781)
I think the only visiting players I've ever heard booed or jeered at a Pirates game are Barry Bonds and Miguel Tejada.

There is certainly a lot of booing when the home team screws up, though. And at the umpire. And whenever a pitcher makes more than two throws to hold a runner on first base. And at intentional walks.
   23. Bob Dernier Cri Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:29 PM (#3309782)
I can't remember ever booing a player for failing on the field, no matter what the context or origins of that failure. Cripes, anyone who ever threw to the wrong base in a Little League game should think twice about booing on those grounds. Which is to say, all of us.

Booing the opposing manager for IBB'ing Josh Hamilton, I'm good with that :)
   24. SoSH U at work Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:36 PM (#3309783)
I've never booed anyone (or at least not since I was 8 years old). More than anything, the word "boo" just sounds ludicrous to me, and I could never again imagine loosing that noise again in a serious manner.
   25. Jeff K. Posted: August 31, 2009 at 04:41 PM (#3309784)
I don't boo my own team (unless I thought they were jaking it), but I will and have and will continue to boo opposing teams, referees, and mascots, most notably at UT games. Though if you're close enough that they can hear you, it's much more fun to get personal. Like asking the Baylor team what they'd do if they ever won a Big 12 game, dancing being against the rules. (Not since 2004 or so, but still.)
   26. puck Posted: August 31, 2009 at 05:13 PM (#3309819)
Tulo's a Rockie


Why would that matter? This is one of the rare years where his success actually can impede the Giants. Heck, I root for Sandoval and Lincecum, except when the two teams are actually playing. It's too hard not to. Maybe you can root for Tulo when the bases are empty or something.
   27. Answer Guy Posted: August 31, 2009 at 05:18 PM (#3309826)
Those old bal-more Hampden billies were tough.


Hehe. I live in Hampden. I have learned how to pronounce "Baltimore" like it's only got two syllables, but I'll always sound like the out-of-towner I am. An old-timer would barely recognize The Avenue now.

We traded crabs and boh for brie and chardonnay and now we need an announcer and jumbotron to tell us when to cheer.


Natty Boh is not fit for human consumption. I love that it's a marketing icon, but it's horrible, horrible beer.
   28. Steve Treder Posted: August 31, 2009 at 05:19 PM (#3309832)
Why would that matter? This is one of the rare years where his success actually can impede the Giants.

It would matter because this is one of the rare years where his success actually can impede the Giants.

Other than that, no reason.
   29. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: August 31, 2009 at 05:21 PM (#3309836)
The only players I've ever booed are scabs, and I boo them no matter what they do.
   30. The Lovesong of J. Alfredo Griffin Posted: August 31, 2009 at 08:40 PM (#3310114)
The only players I've ever booed are scabs, and I boo them no matter what they do.


They are the only players I cheer. I don't make too much noise as a result.
   31. puck Posted: August 31, 2009 at 08:50 PM (#3310124)
It would matter because this is one of the rare years where his success actually can impede the Giants.


So root for him next year, or in blowouts or something.
   32. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: August 31, 2009 at 08:51 PM (#3310126)
How many scabs are left? Millar is one. Can't be that many. They weren't exactly topline talent and it was nearly 15 years ago now.
   33. Answer Guy Posted: August 31, 2009 at 08:54 PM (#3310131)
Ron Mahay was pitching at some point earlier this season. Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head who's still around.
   34. Barnaby Jones Posted: August 31, 2009 at 08:55 PM (#3310132)
Brendan Donnelly, Matt Herges, Ron Mahay.
   35. stanmvp48 Posted: August 31, 2009 at 09:27 PM (#3310161)
"That fanbase has a long way to go, unfortunately. I guess that's what you get after years of ridiculous baseball (and their main beat writer still being sore about Dante Bichette "losing" the '95 MVP to Barry Larkin). "

Not to mention their main beat writer being completely illiterate and having the wrong guy fly out to end an inning and insisting that Yankee stadium is a better hitters park than Coors

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