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Baseball Primer Newsblog— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand
Sunday, October 14, 2012
GIF basket included.
Derek Jeter is out for the rest of the postseason after fracturing his ankle during Game 1 of the American League Championship Series on Saturday night.
After the Yankees gave up the lead in the 12th inning, Jeter ranged to his left on a ground ball, then went into a roll.
He stayed down, and when the trainer and manager Joe Girardi helped him off the field, he put absolutely no weight on his right leg.
Jayson Nix came into the game, which the Yankees eventually lost 6-4. Eduardo Nuñez is not on the Yankees’ active roster, though the Yankees will make a roster move before Game 2.
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Posted: October 14, 2012 at 12:36 AM | 93 comment(s)
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1. Ray (RDP)Leyland: Jose, we need to get this sumbitch to extras so Jeter's brittle bones can betray him. You think you can throw a couple of meatballs up there if we're up in the ninth?
Valverde: Where are these meatballs you speak of?
Besides, ARod might play well, and Girardi can't have him doing that.
Although he will still be in the stadium, so, uh, carry on, Detroit Tigers.
As much as I dislike Jeter, I'm still not happy to see that. I want the Yankees to lose with him ON the field.
These are the Yankees we're talking about. This injury will somehow spur them on to easily taking the series 4-1.
Don't worry, the Yankees won't lose this series.
He is basically a lifelong 2b/3b-man who, as he turns 30, is suddenly being asked to play shortstop in the ALCS because a Hall of Famer got hurt.
Too soon?
It was especially weird for me, since I got him mixed up with his brother and thought he was a corner outfielder. (Edit: carbonated beverage to Shock)
Also, it's really hard for me to see exactly where in that GIF Jeter got hurt. At no point does it look like his ankle does something it isn't supposed to, yet by the end he's on the ground in pain. Huh.
I think it's actually the step right before the GIF starts - on the next step, he tries to put weight on it, and it just rolls.
Bet the Yanks wish they hadn't taken Nunez off the playoff roster for this round...
Can't they just put him back since Jeter is out for the year?
They can and did.
The foot doesn't spin enough at the end of his leg to put him in truly gruesome leg break territory.
Thirding this one, I've been confused ever since I looked at the box score.
Win or lose, the playoffs need the best players. Jeter is old and overrated, but he ain't Nix or Nunez.
As for ARod to short I seriously doubt he'd be able to do the job. He's much less mobile than he was seven years ago and I think at this point would have considerably as range than Jeter (pre-injury Jeter). On top of that his instincts for the position would be lessened as well.
Ramiro Pena is basically that guy....but can't hit at all, so Nunez moved past him on the depth chart a few years ago...he makes way too many errors, and the yankees FO and Girardi have zero confidence with him in the field (last week of the season, Jeter moved from DH to Short in a game Nunez started, forcing the pitcher's spot into the lineup in the six inning), so Nix got added earlier in the season while nunez was send down to learn to catch and throw the ball. Nix happened to tag a few lefties early on, so started getting starts around the field against them...including SS...where Jeter to DH, Nix at short on days where they didn't want chavez and/or ibanez in the line up at the same time was very convenient.
If only they had a former gold glove shortstop on the roster. I'd like to see A-Rod at short, just in the name of science. If he really has less range at the position than Jeter as of yesterday, I'd like to see what that looks like.
Which actually sounds perfectly possible.
That was my thought too. I was describing it to a friend who wasn't watching and I couldn't articulate it better than "he ran for the ball then his ankle broke." He didn't roll it or anything, it just happened.
He was, and what you're saying seems logical, though there were several instances even in the past few days where he seemed to be going at full speed on the bases. I suppose it's possible that the slightest bit of extra stress that didn't involve straightaway running might have been what triggered the breakdown.
I suppose this is maybe why baseball is a little more appealing to me? Because I'm a Yanks fan and this sucks a lot, but I don't think it means the Yanks are done, while I'm pretty sure you realized that Rose's loss meant the Bulls were not getting to the finals.
"Not just sometimes. Always."
Exactly. Cue a billion articles about 'doing it for Jeter', and 'the only relevent stat here is HEART'.
Tim McCarver to the OR! Stat!
The Yankees gifted the Tigers two runs because Swisher whiffed on a fly ball that he reached and Jeter broke his ankle on a ground ball that he caught. Lowe's pitching didn't really have a whole lot to do with it.
And yes, Jeter has been playing on a bum ankle for a month now. It was hurt long before the foul ball in the LDS.
Nunez, as noted above. See 25-28.
Where does Kerri Strug fit into this scenario?
To echo the good Mayor, getting old sucks.
Put A-Rod at short, he's got the hands and enough mobility to make the routine plays. That's as much as they were getting before last night, so why not try it?
I don't disagree but A-Rod has been hitting like the slumping versions of Nix/Nunez since late August.
On the other hand, as a Canadian subjected to the international TV feed, Sutcliffe's non-stop fellating of Jeter was getting pretty unbearable, and maybe he'll now cut back a bit.
Doubtful.
Nix put up a 1.250 OPS in the LDS. Chavez was 0-for-the-series, and A-Rod is working on a sweet 2-for-21 post-season. Yeah, SSS and all that, but A-Rod to SS doesn't really solve much of anything. Cano, Granderson, and Swisher getting a freaking hit once in a while might, though.
I wouldn't count on that. Every time Nunez/Nix miss a play. Every time someone fails in what might have been a Jeter at-bat. Etc.
Jayson, this is your time. Kind of a nightmare/dream scenario if he can play above his head for 5 or 10 games. He doesn't have to be Jeter, but field every ball, get walks, singles, run hard on the bases. I hate the Yankees, too, but I'd like Jayson to make it interesting.
And playing your utility infielder every day may convince Girardi to stop the pinch-hitting for Rod late in the games. It was an inspired and wonderful idea once, but there's no reason for him to keep doing it. Rodriguez is working on a small but lengthening sample size, but unless there's an injury or fatigue issue, he still presents the Yankees with a lot of upside.
It's time to find your inner Doyle, Jayson.
If Girardi wants to be bold, I think he should think about playing Gardner/Granderson/Ichiro in the outfield a few times. Swisher has been significantly worse than A-Rod on both sides of the ball, and if anyone should lose a lineup spot, it should be him.
I recall an argument I got in with Cub fans in 2003 or so in which they believed Sosa would keep banging out 50 to 60 home runs a year until 2008 or so simply because he was doing it then and saw no reason for the situation to change.
Once you get old "it" can go within a blink of an eye. That's what makes those players that can play for a long time so special.
The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won,
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.
O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills,
For you bouquets and ribbon’d wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding,
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
Here Captain! dear father!
The arm beneath your head!
It is some dream that on the deck,
You’ve fallen cold and dead.
My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still,
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will,
The ship is anchor’d safe and sound, its voyage closed and done,
From fearful trip the victor ship comes in with object won;
Exult O shores, and ring O bells!
But I with mournful tread,
Walk the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.
Swisher absolutely blew the fly ball in extra innings. Catchable ball for any decent outfielder.
Regards,
Tim
Cornflake says he lost it in the lights. If true, well, #### happens.
He's certainly not making a case for retaining his services after this season is up, though.
At least, not a positive one ...
He certainly can't be any worse than Granderson or Swisher at this point.
My sister did this.
We're surprisingly fragile beings.
Or celebrating a game winning grand slam.
More importantly, catchable ball for this very outfielder in this very instance. He got to the ball and whiffed on it.
I'm torn on A-Rod. On the one hand, is it just a slump he'll come out of? Perhaps. On the other, he looks terrible. Totally lost at the plate. I think this is why he hasn't really made much of a stink about sitting - he knows he's not hitting. If a guy really thinks he's about to bust out, he says so, loud and often. I'm projecting a lot, but A-Rod looks to me like he's really doubting whether he can hit anymore. In a way he didn't in previous series where he didn't hit.
So Ichiro and Kuroda are going to lead them to the championship?
Oh, and in case anyone has ever wondered what Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto would look like as a high school girl...
Between the economics and the no-trade, that would be a very difficult thing to pull off.
And now to conclude the Ringzzz cycle, we present Jeterdämmerung.
In tonight's performance the role of Brünnhilde will be sung by Suzyn Waldman.
But first, a word from our sponsor:
My beer is Rheingold, the dry beer...
A-Rod looks to me like he's really doubting whether he can hit right now. Hand injuries will do that to a hitter. Now don't get me wrong, he's not the guy he used to be and he isn't ever going to be that guy again, but he's not a .215/.245/.265 hitter or whatever the hell it's been since he came off the DL either.
Seriously, the man compiled an .860 OPS the month he got hurt. He's obviously not a super-star anymore, and not even a star, but he's not done, he's just obviously not completely healthy.
I expect Rick the Sut to give us minutely updates on Jeter's progress.
Seriously, you Americans complaining about whatever announcers you have need to shut the hell up. Sutcliffe is the worst; THE WORST Jerry. We are taking the hit so you don't have to.
Thank you SO much for NOT putting up the "obligatory" image of Madeleine Albright.
He stayed down, and when the trainer and manager Joe Girardi helped him off the field, he put absolutely no weight on his right leg.
Note to Grant Brisbee: Jeter fractured his left ankle, and he was putting no weight on his left leg.
Nunez and Nix are both more error prone than the garden-variety big league SS, but they both have more range than the Captain. While I'm not sure that I'd agree with AROM that A-Rod (I hope I've got those names straight...) should be put at SS today, it sure as hell would make sense to have him work out there and see if he might be able to do so when they head to Detroit.
Hey, you guys sent us Buck Martinez for the Tigers-A's series. So #### you guys right back.
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