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Tuesday, February 12, 2019
The 2019 Miami Marlins aren’t projected to win many games. That shouldn’t come as a surprise, especially after the team traded catcher J.T. Realmuto to the Philadelphia Phillies last week.
Because of that, FanGraphs projects the Marlins to win just 65 games in 2019. When asked about that low win total, Jeter didn’t get angry or try to refute that number. He instead tried to use it as a motivational tactic for his current players.
Jeter said he would take that projection as a “slap in the face if I was a player.” He then added that players should always look to prove people wrong.
For those of you who’ve wanted to see a man with absolutely no sense of shame, look no further.
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1. Koot Posted: February 12, 2019 at 07:37 AM (#5814526)He then pointed to his Gold Glove awards and said "like those analytics people who said I was a terrible defensive shortstop".
WTF do the players have to do with it?
He's the idiot or profiteer (take your pick there are only two options) who traded away all their actual major leaguers for a pile of crap.
Take a look at their depth chart, and you'll think it's optimistic.
Jeter: I know we've got no real players, but if we properly motivate them, they'll just go out and win the whole damn thing!
Staff: That will never work, our players are terrible.
Jeter: It worked in Major League.
Staff: The players in that movie hated the owner. Should we make them hate you?
Jeter: Nobody could ever hate me. Let's make them hate FanGraphs. Everybody hates them since they think I was the worst defensive shortstop in the history of the game.
Poor Starlin Castro.
The good news for him is that the Marlins probably aren't going to pay him $16 million next year so they might try and move him at the deadline.
Have they released a projection for the Orioles yet?
Orioles are projected for 62-100.
Fangraphs' projected standings are based on Steamer projections.
Classic jetes.
I no longer think that. Clearly he has chosen to be the public face of this ownership group. He’s owning their decisions. So I am now on board with the numerous others who think that Jeter has, so far, done nothing to suggest that he isn’t Loria 2.0.
I no longer think that. Clearly he has chosen to be the public face of this ownership group. He’s owning their decisions.
It's what they're paying him for. I don't know that the details were ever officially confirmed, but unofficially:
Whether you're actually the one calling the shots or not, but if you're getting paid $9 million per year to be the front man by the people who are, you have just as much responsibility as they do.
I'd shill for just about anything for $9 million per year. Doesn't make me responsible, but for that price I'm fine with having people think so.
Each win, the team will off a sticker revealing the goodies therein.
Win #63 will reveal the ultimate prize: Edible Jeter-autographed panties.
Go to work, guppies!
an old Ian O'Connor column with the 2000 headline PATRIOTS WILL REGRET HIRING BELICHICK
last fall, Ian literally wrote the book on that coach.
in 1995, when the Yankees hired a new manager, Ian's column ran with this famous tabloid headline:
CLUELESS JOE
TORRE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE'S GETTING INTO
(10 championships later, both teams seem ok with their selections)
................
ooh, I see another good one from MSN Sports, from 2015:
SHIELDS' NO. 1 REASON FOR PICKING PADRES OVER CUBS: WINNING
- by having elcheapo crappy players which decreases the payroll and increases profits for owners!!
YAYYYYYYYYYY
- continuing the loria tradition
the slap in the face is jeter pretending that a bunch of AAAA guys are gonna win much of anything. i be surprised if they didn't compete for the 62 Mets All Time Sacred Won-Loss Record
Game-worn?
Even if you're rebuilding, saying "No, we don't plan to be competitive this year - let's face it, our current players suck." - well, I think he'd get a lot of criticism for that tack, too.
So, "Hey, people may think we're bad, but that'll just motivate us to try our hardest" - well, it's a bit optimistic, but a bit of optimism (which here, isn't presented with any obviously false statements) is probably best for sell to the fan. I don't see what I could do differently in his situation.
zackly
12: Miguel Cabrera
7: Al Leiter
6: *Giancarlo Stanton, *Anibal Sanchez, Josh Beckett
5: *Christian Yelich, Luis Castillo, Edgar Renteria, Livan Hernandez, Alex Fernandez
4: Mark Kotsay, Carl Everett, Charles Johnson, *Josh Johnson, Ryan Dempster
3: *Dan Uggla, Dontrelle Willis, AJ Burnett, Rick Helling, Trevor Hoffman
2: *JT Realmuto, *Marcell Ozuna, *Jose Fernandez, *Jason Vargas, Brad Penny
1: *Brian Anderson, *Logan Morrison, *Josh Willingham, Alex Gonzalez, Quilvio Veras, *Ricky Nolasco, Nate Robertson, Tony Saunders, Robb Nen, Luis Aquino
49 of those 117 seasons were for the Marlins. The Marlins have 70 seasons of 3+ pitching or position player WAR by players who debuted since 1993. Among players who debuted since 1993 there are 1578 seasons of 3+ position player WAR and 899 seasons of 3+ pitching WAR so the average team only has ~83 such seasons.
Since 2004, 124 players have made their MLB debut for the Marlins, 27 of their 36 3+ WAR seasons have been for the Marlins, the Marlins have had 37 seasons of 3+ WAR by players who debuted since 2004 and with 1225 the average team has had ~41 such seasons.
2018 Marlins who had a 3+ WAR season during their career:
6 - Martin Prado, 1/15 left on contract
3 - Starlin Castro, 1/12.857 or 2/27.857 left on contract
2 - JT Realmuto, traded to Phillies
1 - Brian Anderson, pre-Arb
1 - Cameron Maybin, traded to Mariners, currently FA
1 - Dan Straily, Arb2 $5mil in 2019
1 - Wei-Yin Chen, 2/42 or 3/58 left on contract
Active players have 1052 seasons of 3+ WAR so the average team has ~35. The Marlins have 12 unless, HAHAHAHAHAHA, they have acquired such a player this off season. Derek Jeter has 14 so maybe he can pencil himself in as DH for an inter-league game or two, the Marlins get the AL Central along with "rivalry" games against the Rays so sadly can't play in Yankee Stadium unless the World Series is a 2003 rematch.
There's nothing wrong with predictions that don't come true, but people will make fun of you if the motivation for making the predictions was lighting a shrine candle for Saint Jeets.
1) They didn't need a complete tear down. The team was decent. They wanted to tear down to increase cash flow and pay down their debt/reap immediate profits.
2) Jeter traded the 2017 MVP, the 2018 MVP, and a guy coming off a 5 win season, and has basically nothing to show for it. That's remarkable.
Did not debut with the Marlins
12: Miguel Cabrera
6: *Giancarlo Stanton, *Anibal Sanchez, Josh Beckett
5: *Christian Yelich, Luis Castillo, Edgar Renteria, Livan Hernandez
4: Mark Kotsay, Carl Everett, Charles Johnson, *Josh Johnson, Ryan Dempster
3: *Dan Uggla, Dontrelle Willis, AJ Burnett, Trevor Hoffman
2: *JT Realmuto, *Marcell Ozuna, *Jose Fernandez, *Jason Vargas, Brad Penny
1: *Brian Anderson, *Logan Morrison, *Josh Willingham, Alex Gonzalez, Quilvio Veras, *Ricky Nolasco, Nate Robertson, Tony Saunders
Alex Fernandez, Rick Helling, Robb Nen and Luis Aquino also don't debut for Marlins.
Hmmmmm:
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