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Derek Jeter talk a broken record for Yankees broadcasters as captain nears Lou Gehrig’s hits mark

A moustachian story so big…I couldn’t fit Raissman’s name on top!

This exercise in attaching rhinestones, purchased in Costco, to the sparkling Tiffany legacy Jeter continues constructing was inevitable. With the final countdown moving from the road to Yankee Stadium, the sap was going to flow.

Michael Kay was in rare form - gushing. His introduction to the Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network’s telecast was the kind of melodramatic ooze he usually reserves for Opening Day. Kay, going Facenda on us, spoke of a guy who went from a “fresh-face teenager” to “Yankee greatness.”

Kay: “The pages of the calendar have turned and have been punctuated by a steady torrent of hits. With the consistency of a metronome, Jeter had made sure the hits just keep on coming. ... One by one, hit by hit, the greats have fallen as he moves up the ladder, putting the games deities in his rear-view mirror. ... Four more hits to stand atop the Yankees’ Mt. Olympus.”

Why stop there? Halfway through his Ode to Derek, Kay should have said: “I can think of younger days when living for my life was everything a man could want to do.” ... Okay, so none of this was really surprising. Until Jeter moves past Gehrig (please, hurry) it’s all-schmaltz-all-the-time.

...There is another side to all this - a commercial side. If one wants to “really” take a stroll down Memory Lane, they best be prepared to pay a toll. That’s the only conclusion drawn from the number of spots Sterling read for a company selling Jeter memorabilia.

“Imagine when Jeter goes to the Hall of Fame what those items will be worth,” Sterling ad-libbed after reading one of the commercials. Nothing like cheapening what will be a wonderful moment, right?

Repoz Posted: September 08, 2009 at 11:40 AM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: September 08, 2009 at 12:01 PM (#3316534)
Most of the Kay quotes above are from the tease. If the lead story to the game is something like that, I think that virtually any broadcaster would do some crap like that at the beginning of the game. Schmaltz is what these people do, particularly in the pre-taped open.

Were people less hyperbolic when talking about LeBron James during last year's NBA playoffs?
   2. Leroy Kincaid Posted: September 08, 2009 at 12:38 PM (#3316545)
I don't know. I wouldn't waste any time on basketball.

They are going overboard with this Jeter/Gehrig stuff. Yeah, it's the most hits for the most storied franchise. But c'mon, Gehrig is 53rd all-time in career hits.
   3. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: September 08, 2009 at 12:42 PM (#3316548)
I don't know how to look it up. Where is Gehrig as far as franchise leaders in hits all earned while wearing that uniform? I have to think top ten.
   4. Lassus Posted: September 08, 2009 at 12:56 PM (#3316551)
The Yankees are kind of a storied historical franchise. I don't really have any trouble with the coverage, myself.

Maybe I think that because Raissman is such an annoyance.
   5. RJ in TO Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:24 PM (#3316578)
I don't know how to look it up. Where is Gehrig as far as franchise leaders in hits all earned while wearing that uniform? I have to think top ten.


He's high on the list, but not that high. Off the top of my head, guys who have had more hits with a single franchise would include Aaron , Rose, Cobb, Kaline, Gwynn, Ripken, Musial, Yaz, Mays, Brett, Wagner, Yount, Biggio, Clemente, Brock, and probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting. Guys who hit well enough to last for that long tend to not move around all that much - especially in the pre-free agency era.
   6. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:31 PM (#3316580)
He's high on the list, but not that high. Off the top of my head, guys who have had more hits with a single franchise would include Aaron , Rose, Cobb, Kaline, Gwynn, Ripken, Musial, Yaz, Mays, Brett, Wagner, Yount, Biggio, Clemente, Brock, and probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting. Guys who hit well enough to last for that long tend to not move around all that much - especially in the pre-free agency era.


Also Anson, Waner, Sam Rice, Zach Wheat, Ott, Brooks, Gehringer, and Appling. So, Lou is 24th.
   7. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:35 PM (#3316584)
So when Jeter breaks this record, he'd be in the top ten of the FA era, right?
   8. yankeesfanlen Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:37 PM (#3316585)
Aaron had 3630, Musial 3600 to top the hit list in one uniform.
   9. RJ in TO Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:38 PM (#3316587)
So when Jeter breaks this record, he'd be in the top ten of the FA era, right?


Just at the bottom of that top 10, but he would be top 10.
   10. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:42 PM (#3316591)
I had him seventh, obviously with a chance to move up. Ahead of him:

Rose
Gwynn
Ripken
Brett
Yount
Biggio
   11. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:42 PM (#3316592)
He's high on the list, but not that high. Off the top of my head, guys who have had more hits with a single franchise would include Aaron , Rose, Cobb, Kaline, Gwynn, Ripken, Musial, Yaz, Mays, Brett, Wagner, Yount, Biggio, Clemente, Brock, and probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting. Guys who hit well enough to last for that long tend to not move around all that much - especially in the pre-free agency era.


Also Anson, Waner, Sam Rice, Zach Wheat, Ott, Brooks, Gehringer, and Appling. So, Lou is 24th.

And Jeter is likely to pass most of those guys, which makes this a bigger story than if someone was breaking the record in the last year of a long career.
   12. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:42 PM (#3316595)
Well sure, but so what? I mean, top 10 in hits with one team since 1976? That's pretty esoteric.
   13. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:44 PM (#3316597)
Most Yankee fans are just glad that they won both games, and that Sabathia and Burnett looked good. Jeter's hits will come whenever.
   14. RJ in TO Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:45 PM (#3316598)
I had him seventh, obviously with a chance to move up.


You forgot Yaz and Brock, depending on how much of the FA era they had to play in to count.
   15. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: September 08, 2009 at 01:47 PM (#3316601)
And Jeter is likely to pass most of those guys, which makes this a bigger story than if someone was breaking the record in the last year of a long career.


Yes, but he hasn't done it yet. He's 25th on the list of most hits with one team, but he could still get hit by a bus tomorrow. At one point Griffey seemed like a lock for 700+ HR. ARod looked like a lock to push Wagner for all time greatest SS. McGwire was a lock for first ballot HOF. Things happen.

Enjoy the fact that Jeter is going strong at 35 and looks like hge has a lot left in the tank. But the possiility of an accomplishment is not the same thing as the actual thing.
   16. salvomania Posted: September 08, 2009 at 07:12 PM (#3316877)
Aaron had 3630, Musial 3600 to top the hit list in one uniform.


Yankeesfanlen, you got it backwards.

There are many things I forget, but one number I remember is Musial's 3630 base hits.
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2009 at 07:33 PM (#3316893)
list in post 9

linking this one again(also on another thread) this is from DG's 10@10 blog post, and it's not actually accurate(in that his list of active leaders is only players currently on the team) but it's still a good list to start.


AMERICAN LEAGUE (No. 9)

Boston AL … all-time: Yastrzemski 3,419 … current: Jason Varitek, 1,226

Athletics … all-time: Campaneris 1,882 … current: Eric Chavez, 1,250

Cleveland … all-time: Lajoie, 2.046 … current: Grady Sizemore, 861

Yankees … all-time: Gehrig, 2,721 … current: Derek Jeter, 2,713

Detroit … all-time: Cobb, 3,900 … current: Brandon Inge, 878

Browns/Orioles … all-time: Ripken Jr., 3,184 … current: Melvin Mora, 1,303

White Sox … all-time: Appling, 2,749 … current: Paul Konerko, 1,621

Wash./Minn. … all-time: S. Rice, 2,889 … current: Justin Morneau, 890

NATIONAL LEAGUE (No. 10)

Pittsburgh … all-time: Clemente, 3,000 … current: Ryan Doumit, 341

NY/San Fran … all-time: Mays, 3,187 … current: Rich Aurilia, 1,225

Cubs … all-time: Banks, 2,583 … current: Aramis Ramirez, 937

Cincinnati … all-time: Rose, 3,358 … current: Brandon Phillips, 609

Brk/LA … all-time: Zach Wheat, 2,804 … current: Andre Ethier, 551

Braves … all-time: Aaron, 3,600 … current: Chipper Jones, 2,390

Philadelphia … all-time: Schmidt, 2,234 … current: Jimmy Rollins, 1,594

Cardinals … all-time: Musial, 3,630 … current: Albert Pujols, 1,680


only did teams that were established prior to 1903 I believe.
   18. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: September 08, 2009 at 07:37 PM (#3316899)
So, who above besides Jeter has a chance to ake over the #1 spot? J Roll perhaps, maybe Pujols.
   19. RJ in TO Posted: September 08, 2009 at 07:40 PM (#3316903)
So, who above besides Jeter has a chance to ake over the #1 spot? J Roll perhaps, maybe Pujols.


Grady Sizemore definitely has enough time left, but it's questionable whether he'll be with the franchise long enough.
   20. BDC Posted: September 08, 2009 at 07:51 PM (#3316919)
Michael Young was gaining on the Rangers' career hits record (he now has 1,656, which would be pretty respectable for a current leader) when Pudge Rodriguez rejoined the team –and Young got hurt. Talk about tantalizing. Pudge is the active/current Ranger leader now with 1,734.
   21. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: September 08, 2009 at 08:03 PM (#3316933)
So who had the most hits on a team which doesn't represent his best hit total?
   22. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: September 08, 2009 at 08:11 PM (#3316950)
So who had the most hits on a team which doesn't represent his best hit total?


Do you mean someone who is the career hits leader for a team but who has more hits for another team? There is no such player.

Or is it a seasonal question?
   23. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 08, 2009 at 08:13 PM (#3316951)
D'oh. Misunderstood.
   24. RJ in TO Posted: September 08, 2009 at 08:16 PM (#3316954)
Neither did Cobb, or Mays, or Rose, or a ton of other guys listed above. We're just asking who had the most hits of any player with that team - we're only counting that portion of the player's career.
   25. JJ1986 Posted: September 08, 2009 at 08:16 PM (#3316956)
Speaker has 1327 for Boston and more for Cleveland. Eddie Collins and Barry Bonds both have a lot of hits for two teams as well.
   26. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: September 08, 2009 at 08:18 PM (#3316959)
Looks like JJ got me.

Someone who got a lot of hits for two teams. For the purposes of this question, I'm looking for a ranking based on what he did for his second-place team, not his first.
   27. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 08, 2009 at 08:25 PM (#3316963)
That's tough, but I can tell you Hanley Ramirez is in last place.

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